Fantasy Mercophobia vs Igneel

[WoWfan]

Gray said he was going to effect the town which any common sense can understand it is just the town, it does prove Skullion has a limited range where Merc is greater, Seven is disagreeing with you, the water he lifted with the entire ocean, which most was spent in his attacks or evaporated by Ignia.

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Gray statement of "At this rate Elmina will erased" doesn't put limit on how much he can erase. Ocean > Town. Skullion was going to erase the ocean which was only natural elimina will be erased as well.

 

[WoWfan]

It does because the statement puts it at that point, making what you quote “irrelevant” about that he was effecting the entire ocean in the previous phrase

 

[Seven777]

Hmm? Pretty sure I said that the water Merc lifted was not even equivalent to a sea. If that's what you're claiming then sure I'm agreeing.

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Erza said he fliped the sea making your claims of ocean irrelevant as well.

 

[WoWfan]

Well you agreed with me anyway for Skullion, so why stop there when I can convince you of Merc lifting the ocean into the sky

And I said that kanji for sea and ocean are synonymous with each other, and since the qualities match that of the ocean that means it would be the latter

 

[Seven777]

What are you talking about? We already concluded that argument, Merc lifted the ocean around the town, not the entire ocean. We're done fam, don't sweat it. As for Skullion, no one gives a shit about Skullion, the arguments just there to prove what a hypocrite you were being when you were ignoring the statement about Skullion's feat while still proporting the statements about Merc's.

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

I never agreed with you. It in your head that's all.
Skullion was going to erased the ocean just like gray said. His next about elimina being is erased doesn't prove any limit. If ocean is being erased it's only natural elimina is erased as well.
I don't need to believe about your kanji nonsense you not japanese. It's only natural you say some bs to prove your logic is right.

 

[WoWfan]

And we said that the water around the town possesses all the water of the ocean, so there is no reason that o continue this farce, you agreed that it is for Skullion, not Merc which I am convinced you are just in denial at this point, the statement makes him only effecting the town not the entire ocean, which Merc can do. The statement makes it clear that it is just eh ocean around the town for Skullion’s ash, You don’t have to when the kanji is shown in previous chapters that translates to ocean, KT, and I do not approve of your language.

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Same thing with merc. He only lifted water his town nothing more than that. It was town level which did building level damage.

 

[WoWfan]

Not the same as he does not describe the limit like gray did, it is the ocean in general.

 

[Seven777]

You miss the "not the entire ocean" part? Thought so. As for being in denial, pretty sure everyone here can agree that the only one in denial here is you, the guy who keeps trying to use science to prove shit in a world of magic, but says "nah magic takes care of the rest" when the science disagrees with him lol.

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

It was stated be sea. Gray never specified a limit.
Ocean > Elimina
Skullion was erasing Ocean.
So Elimina will naturally be erased as well.
Merc only limited water worth of town

 

[WoWfan]

Why are you quoting the Skullion feat over and over? It is agreed that he cannot effect the entire ocean unlike Merc can, even other people agree that Merc is stronger than your downplay nonsense makes it out to be, where science and magic coexist with each other since day one of the series

It is in previous chapters and even has the quality of the ocean having an abyssal zone where the sea does not, which it is an ocean, Skullions limit is the town, thank you for admitting that since gray stated that, also since gray stopped it, it cannot be the entire ocean since he cannot even best Merc at 50% since he can lift the entire thing, even after defeat, the ocean still exists from Skullion, transitive property,

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

I never agreed Skullion can't affect ocean like merc. This is something in your head . Trying push your logic onto me. Skullion can turn entire ocean into ash. Gray never stated was it's his limit. Elemina being erased is nothing more than an after effect of his powers.

Merc lifted an water equal to a town. That's what shown in those panel which did building damage. He still couldn't completely destroy elemina.

 

[WoWfan]

The statement made it clear that it is the range of his magic. And even Gray can counter it. So why could he not do the same with Merc? Because Skullion can’t effect the entire ocean, so there I have debunk you. Merc lifted an entire ocean, you can see it reaching beyond the town as well. They are from the same feat as well, and most of the water is evaporated, that is why he could not destroy all of the town

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

I won't prove anything just because you say so. Gray stopped it before the ash can reach that level.
Merc lifted water worth of elemina town. That was shown in the manga. Anthing other that is baseless assumptions you are making.

 

[WoWfan]

Irrelevant, That means the icing had that much energy behind the feat to cancel it out all of it, it would not stop just because someone stops the portion of the spell unless you defeat the person, even Skullion used stronger effort and the ocean is still there, so there I have debunked you. Merc lifted an ocean, it is fare larger than the town as it reached out beyond the bay as well even under the town, shown and supported in the manga, what you are doing is more baseless than not

 

[Axiomus]

It just brushed off him, going by what you said, until you can prove that there is a statement that attacks go through him, he does not have phasing powers, especially against Makarov hoe clearly impacted Atlas. It’s his father, of course a child would be amazed at their parent’s feats, you can see the dork look on his face, and not the genuine fear like other times, but Natsu has had his memories effected by the Dragon soul technique. Natsu hit Rogue, not Motherglare, it was Atlas that did the job. I did not say that, I said Natsu was far stronger than when he was at Tartaros so of course he can take that damage and live, and stop saying Merc is Acno Level when he is half that. Lucy and Wendy are already strong, well Wendy is stronger since she has great potential described by Irene who created the DS. Gray freezing a pillar of water is nothing out of the ordinary as sea water can freeze as well, it is common knowledge. But not before Igneel loses a chunk of his body in the process as well.

It blasted right through his shoulders, and you can see his body distort. Atlas Flame clearly showed that his body can become intangible. You can literally see it. Igneel's roar was still more impressive to Natsu than Motherglare's roar, and this is despite the fact that Natsu had already experienced how powerful regular dragons are. The fact that his memories were missing doesn't really matter. The attack that took Motherglare out was the combined attack from Atlas Flame and Natsu. Atlas Flame pushed Natsu, and Natsu hit both Rogue and Motherglare.

Natsu, Gray, Erza Lucy, and Wendy are all far weaker than Igneel, and Igneel would oneshot them all at once with a roar. If Mercphobia's attacks aren't taking them out, they'll be even less effective against Igneel. Mercphobia hasn't demonstrated that he can take a chunk of body off anyone. He couldn't even do any significant damage to the members of team Natsu. Igneel would oneshot Gray, Erza, Lucy, and Wendy all at once with the roar he used against Acnologia. Natsu might not get oneshotted by the roar, but he would be floored and then Igneel would literally just eat him.

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Gray just froze the ash before it can reach that aoe.

Your statements about bs multi-continetal are irrelevant as well. Erza stated it was sea. That's what he lifted. Water around town. Anything other than that is in the manga and is only in your head.