Final Match Mikasa Ackerman vs Holo

Who is the ultimate Waifu?

  • Mikasa Ackerman

  • Holo


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Dont' exactly care for the finale but voted for the 100% human (won't write again whats wrong with living an idyll with a 1/2wolf :derp ) and also for the sake of Bel, she played a wonderful game and deserves to win this one. Actually both @Lambu and @Belserion
did an absolutely amazing job for their their campaining props to them if it wasn't for this huge tail and those fangs, Holo would have likely win my vote.
I... I understand :emocat

By the way @Farfalla, Im only not mad at you for hoping off the train because you warned me about it for quite a while (round 2 I think)... so I forgive you, but I'll use your gifs regardless :hee
 

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I'd like to address the negativity being thrown out there about Mikasa's devotion to Eren that some are twisting to make Eren look like some kind of victim. To understand Mikasa you have to know where she's coming from.
This is the first time she met Eren. I didn't post the long backstory but to put it simply just before that Mikasa had watched both her parents get slaughtered by a bunch of thugs. Those same thugs were going to "traffic" her. She had given up. Her cheerful, carefree life had been cruelly snatched from her. She was "cold". Then out of nowhere this boy she's never met shows up. He didn't just save her. He urged her to live. Afterwards:
Having no family and nowhere to go, that same boy and his family took her in. He wrapped that scarf around her and made her "warm". That scarf is a symbol of how much it all meant to her that day, she's kept it for years and it has been her lifeline. It's easy to dismiss her feelings for him just to make a point, but those feelings are deep rooted in gratitude, admiration, hope, salvation.

It takes a strong woman to love a broken man. And that's exactly what Eren is. Sadly he suffered the same fate as Mikasa did and watched his own mother die gruesomely in front of him. It drove him almost insane. He's not always kind to Mikasa, sometimes he takes her for granted. Yet Mikasa has never given up on him, never abandoned him. She understands him more than anyone else in the world and that's why he confides in her. No matter how crazy his thoughts are or how irrational he is he knows he can tell her anything, even if he knows she won't agree. That's the level of trust between them.

But I find it amazing that despite what they've been through, how much they suffered, Mikasa still looks ahead. She wants to save everyone, yes everyone, she wants to defeat the Titans. She wants to live a peaceful life with the ones she cares about. She wants to go exploring the outside world with Eren and Armin. She has dreams just like any other girl and she's working to achieve it. But those dreams involve Eren so yes she comes off as too intense at times but she has her reasons, and like we saw before, Eren doesn't seem to mind as much as some of you make it sound.

Mikasa is strong when the situation calls for it but she has a kind soul. She's loyal even if someone doesn't always deserve it. She takes your dreams and does everything in her power to help you fulfill them. She takes care of you when you forget to take care of yourself. All Mikasa wants is for the person she loves to be happy and that in turn would make her happy. Its not about being dependent, it's about loving someone to the point where you share a bond so deep it's almost like you're the same person. Soul mates some would call it. It's a long road ahead but never once has she faltered and knowing Mikasa she never will. So do I think she would make a good waifu? Absolutely! With someone like that by your side it's impossible to feel like you couldn't do anything. In fact it's the opposite. You'd feel like you could do everything :blush
 

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I... I understand :emocat

By the way @Farfalla, Im only not mad at you for hoping off the train because you warned me about it for quite a while (round 2 I think)... so I forgive you, but I'll use your gifs regardless :hee
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It's ok, you were an honored adversary in the first match and won me over to your side with it. Maybe if I knew Holo I'd have stayed, who knows, but yeah, gotta go with my one sided preference here.
 

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I'd like to address the negativity being thrown out there about Mikasa's devotion to Eren that some are twisting to make Eren look like some kind of victim. To understand Mikasa you have to know where she's coming from.
This is the first time she met Eren. I didn't post the long backstory but to put it simply just before that Mikasa had watched both her parents get slaughtered by a bunch of thugs. Those same thugs were going to "traffic" her. She had given up. Her cheerful, carefree life had been cruelly snatched from her. She was "cold". Then out of nowhere this boy she's never met shows up. He didn't just save her. He urged her to live. Afterwards:
Having no family and nowhere to go, that same boy and his family took her in. He wrapped that scarf around her and made her "warm". That scarf is a symbol of how much it all meant to her that day, she's kept it for years and it has been her lifeline. It's easy to dismiss her feelings for him just to make a point, but those feelings are deep rooted in gratitude, admiration, hope, salvation.

It takes a strong woman to love a broken man. And that's exactly what Eren is. Sadly he suffered the same fate as Mikasa did and watched his own mother die gruesomely in front of him. It drove him almost insane. He's not always kind to Mikasa, sometimes he takes her for granted. Yet Mikasa has never given up on him, never abandoned him. She understands him more than anyone else in the world and that's why he confides in her. No matter how crazy his thoughts are or how irrational he is he knows he can tell her anything, even if he knows she won't agree. That's the level of trust between them.

But I find it amazing that despite what they've been through, how much they suffered, Mikasa still looks ahead. She wants to save everyone, yes everyone, she wants to defeat the Titans. She wants to live a peaceful life with the ones she cares about. She wants to go exploring the outside world with Eren and Armin. She has dreams just like any other girl and she's working to achieve it. But those dreams involve Eren so yes she comes off as too intense at times but she has her reasons, and like we saw before, Eren doesn't seem to mind as much as some of you make it sound.

Mikasa is strong when the situation calls for it but she has a kind soul. She's loyal even if someone doesn't always deserve it. She takes your dreams and does everything in her power to help you fulfill them. She takes care of you when you forget to take care of yourself. All Mikasa wants is for the person she loves to be happy and that in turn would make her happy. Its not about being dependent, it's about loving someone to the point where you share a bond so deep it's almost like you're the same person. Soul mates some would call it. It's a long road ahead but never once has she faltered and knowing Mikasa she never will. So do I think she would make a good waifu? Absolutely! With someone like that by your side it's impossible to feel like you couldn't do anything. In fact it's the opposite. You'd feel like you could do everything :blush
Great post, you sugarcoated the actual situation, that of a woman obsessed with a man loving him more than anything else, but it was still very good.
In the end its just like I said above, her best and pretty much only weapon is her devotion, but Holo can be devoted to her partner aswell, just maybe not to that insane level.
In almost every other camp Holo is superior. :p
 

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Dont' exactly care for the finale but voted for the 100% human (won't write again whats wrong with living an idyll with a 1/2wolf :derp ) and also for the sake of Bel, she played a wonderful game and deserves to win this one. Actually both @Lambu and @Belserion
did an absolutely amazing job for their their campaining props to them if it wasn't for this huge tail and those fangs, Holo would have likely win my vote.
And to think I wanted to vote Beatrix for 3rd place...
 

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Voting Holo, not much to say. If it comes down to a choice between a cute, witty goddess and a strong titan slayer with abs, it's easy for me to decide.

I would never vote for Mikasa. Not even if the opponent was a rock.
That's some statement you have there.
 
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Great post, you sugarcoated the actual situation, that of a woman obsessed with a man loving him more than anything else, but it was still very good.
In the end its just like I said above, her best and pretty much only weapon is her devotion, but Holo can be devoted to her partner aswell, just maybe not to that insane level.
In almost every other camp Holo is superior. :p
How do you "sugarcoat" something by simply stating facts? If I wanted to sugarcoat the situation I would have denied all the claims or at least tried to deflect. I didn't. I showed the situation from Mikasa's point of view. You and others are downplaying her feelings or more accurately twisting it in a negative light to make her seem like some sort of psycho when it's far from it. You were making it seem like she was randomly fixated on him, stifling him and basically being unhinged when that is not the case. It only seems like I sugar coated it because of all the salt being thrown at her ;)

Also devotion being her best weapon isn't a bad thing. After all this is a waifu battle. And this just happens to be the meaning of devotion just in case you were trying to throw salt on that as well:

Devotion

Love, loyalty, or enthusiasm for a person or activity.

Eg:
‘his devotion to duty never wavered’

‘she was the epitome of wifely devotion’

Yes. Mikasa is the epitome of wifely devotion :blush
 

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How do you "sugarcoat" something by simply stating facts? If I wanted to sugarcoat the situation I would have denied all the claims or at least tried to deflect. I didn't. I showed the situation from Mikasa's point of view. You and others are downplaying her feelings or more accurately twisting it in a negative light to make her seem like some sort of psycho when it's far from it. You were making it seem like she was randomly fixated on him, stifling him and basically being unhinged when that is not the case. It only seems like I sugar coated it because of all the salt being thrown at her ;)

Also devotion being her best weapon isn't a bad thing. After all this is a waifu battle. And this just happens to be the meaning of devotion just in case you were trying to throw salt on that as well:

Devotion

Love, loyalty, or enthusiasm for a person or activity.

Eg:
‘his devotion to duty never wavered’

‘she was the epitome of wifely devotion’

Yes. Mikasa is the epitome of wifely devotion :blush
Oh, dont take me wrong, I do like Mikasa's devotion and when I put myself in her place I understand why her life is so linked to Eren, but the point is devotion alone is not enough to choose her over Holo. ;)
 

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Having no family and nowhere to go, that same boy and his family took her in. He wrapped that scarf around her and made her "warm". That scarf is a symbol of how much it all meant to her that day, she's kept it for years and it has been her lifeline. It's easy to dismiss her feelings for him just to make a point, but those feelings are deep rooted in gratitude, admiration, hope, salvation.
This part of your post is pretty good, came here to add on to this.
According to her wiki, Mikasa Ackerman was born on February 10th. In Astrology, people born under this date are associated with the sign Aquarius, the Water Bearer. About the Aquarius woman:
"When an Aquarius woman falls in love, she will follow her feelings for as long as she is unrestricted and free to be herself."
This explains why Mikasa always looks out for Eren and seeks him out, she has feelings for him, which stem from a realy great sense of devotion and loyalty. This is actually a pretty attractive quality to have in a spouse/marriage partner.

"The unconscious fear of losing her personality to other people often makes her vulnerable to any sort of expectations and tries to turn her into something she is not."
^Still another quality on the Aquarius female, but Mikasa surprisingly doesn't fall prey to this. We see this evident in how she acts whenever Eren is in danger. Such as the time with Levi in Eren's trial:

And when Reiner and Bertolt were about to take away Eren and she moved to take them down:

Now,the obvious argument for this would be that 'hurr durr look at her Eren obsession kicking in once again what a fangirl!, BUT, look at the context here. Eren is in danger. Yet Mikasa moves to defend him both times. That should be a really REALLY commendable quality to have in a significant other. Someone who defends you and doesn't give a damn what the others around her think, regardless of rank or anything of the sort.
Also, something else about Mikasa's personality. Despite her tough exterior portrayed in the scenes above, we also see her soft interior show at times like these:


This is someone who has grown up in an environment where living everyday is a fight in itself, but as we see, she hasn't allowed it to define her completely. She'd adapt pretty well if she was given the chance to grow up in a normal world like ours ;)
So, the rightful winner here in my eyes is Mikasa :)
 

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I'd like to address the negativity being thrown out there about Mikasa's devotion to Eren that some are twisting to make Eren look like some kind of victim. To understand Mikasa you have to know where she's coming from.
This is the first time she met Eren. I didn't post the long backstory but to put it simply just before that Mikasa had watched both her parents get slaughtered by a bunch of thugs. Those same thugs were going to "traffic" her. She had given up. Her cheerful, carefree life had been cruelly snatched from her. She was "cold". Then out of nowhere this boy she's never met shows up. He didn't just save her. He urged her to live. Afterwards:
Having no family and nowhere to go, that same boy and his family took her in. He wrapped that scarf around her and made her "warm". That scarf is a symbol of how much it all meant to her that day, she's kept it for years and it has been her lifeline. It's easy to dismiss her feelings for him just to make a point, but those feelings are deep rooted in gratitude, admiration, hope, salvation.

It takes a strong woman to love a broken man. And that's exactly what Eren is. Sadly he suffered the same fate as Mikasa did and watched his own mother die gruesomely in front of him. It drove him almost insane. He's not always kind to Mikasa, sometimes he takes her for granted. Yet Mikasa has never given up on him, never abandoned him. She understands him more than anyone else in the world and that's why he confides in her. No matter how crazy his thoughts are or how irrational he is he knows he can tell her anything, even if he knows she won't agree. That's the level of trust between them.

But I find it amazing that despite what they've been through, how much they suffered, Mikasa still looks ahead. She wants to save everyone, yes everyone, she wants to defeat the Titans. She wants to live a peaceful life with the ones she cares about. She wants to go exploring the outside world with Eren and Armin. She has dreams just like any other girl and she's working to achieve it. But those dreams involve Eren so yes she comes off as too intense at times but she has her reasons, and like we saw before, Eren doesn't seem to mind as much as some of you make it sound.

Mikasa is strong when the situation calls for it but she has a kind soul. She's loyal even if someone doesn't always deserve it. She takes your dreams and does everything in her power to help you fulfill them. She takes care of you when you forget to take care of yourself. All Mikasa wants is for the person she loves to be happy and that in turn would make her happy. Its not about being dependent, it's about loving someone to the point where you share a bond so deep it's almost like you're the same person. Soul mates some would call it. It's a long road ahead but never once has she faltered and knowing Mikasa she never will. So do I think she would make a good waifu? Absolutely! With someone like that by your side it's impossible to feel like you couldn't do anything. In fact it's the opposite. You'd feel like you could do everything :blush
There's really not much to add to this IMO,that's exactly what defines Mikasa as a Female Character and Waifu as shown from her Moments in both Manga and Anime for me at least.
Let me say this though or rather add this::teach

She’s certainly far from perfect (she is human after all). Her devotion to Eren is at times worrying–sometimes it seems like Eren could tell Mikasa to jump off a bridge and she would–but it’s made clear that Mikasa has not made herself a mindless servant to Eren.Some may think this makes her sound a tad too co-dependent, but so freaking what? How does any of this make her WEAK? What's WRONG with loving others and wanting to protect them? She's clearly the stronger of the two, and she doesn't let anyone take advantage of her or her friends. The last thing anyone REALLY wants is some unlovable ice queen who looks down upon everyone. The fact that she'll go so far to protect others makes her very respectable in my eyes, and is that really so hard to understand?
Most notably, Eren tells her repeatedly that he doesn’t need or want her to protect him anymore, but that hasn’t stopped Mikasa from following her own wish to do so anyway. This absolute devotion does, however, make me pause and think of trends of female characters devoted to an extreme–romantically or otherwise–to a male character, which isn’t my favorite. At least in Mikasa and Eren’s case, the devotion is a result of a traumatic event, which makes Mikasa’s reaction, and the strong bond that forms from the event, more understandable than simply being an unhealthily love-crazy girl. I also like that, from the beginning, Eren and Mikasa’s bond is founded on helping each other, instead of one (aka the girl) always hanging on the other for survival. So far, Eren and Mikasa’s has been fairly even give-and-take. With any luck, the series will keep it that way. In addition, rather than make the tough-as-nails Mikasa vulnerable, a gimmick used frequently, the revealing of her tragic past serves to depict how she became so tough.Mikasa, if nothing else, is an intriguing female character. Cool and collected to an almost alarming degree, you’re not going to see this character hesitate in the face of danger.
One scene that really stands out to me shows Jean, complimenting her, saying that she's beautiful. No, he didn't ask her to show him her bloomers or cat call her or whatever... just making an honest statement that she's beautiful... and she is.:wtf
Any "tough chick" in that scene would've busted his balls and pulled out all of his teeth and fingernails to punish him for saying such a thing,
But not Mikasa. She just calmly says "Thank you", goes on her way, and leaves it at that.(That was so Cool for me. :blush)

NOTE:I just added some of my own Takes on Mikasa here and honestly i used whatever came to mind that hasn't been already said here i might have failed at that but i tried :XD,apologies if i may have repeated some Points that @Belserion already mentioned in her Previous Post but take it for all its worth Folks please.:hiVOTE MIKASA!
 

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So, what is your point? That her devotion to Eren is not everything? Of course it is not everything, she is human after all. But how does that make her better waifu than Holo? I don't see it. Trying to protect your beloved is something everyone would do, there was nothing wrong with her actions against Reiner, he was the enemy, she even showed that she cared for him despite the fact that Eren is her N.1 priority. But again, I fail to see how that makes her a better waifu than Holo.
 

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Dont' exactly care for the finale but voted for the 100% human (won't write again whats wrong with living an idyll with a 1/2wolf :derp ) and also for the sake of Bel, she played a wonderful game and deserves to win this one. Actually both @Lambu and @Belserion
did an absolutely amazing job for their their campaining props to them if it wasn't for this huge tail and those fangs, Holo would have likely win my vote.
Yeah, no need, since you made the very same post in every single poll thread with Holo involved.

Just quoting to say I'll note this down for now and make you pay sometime later.
I will decide on the details later.
 

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Oh, dont take me wrong, I do like Mikasa's devotion and when I put myself in her place I understand why her life is so linked to Eren, but the point is devotion alone is not enough to choose her over Holo. ;)
I agree with you. Devotion isn't the only thing she has though. I and others have pointed out in 5 rounds what her other qualities are. We know she's strong. We know she's beautiful. We know she Would go to the ends of the earth for the one she loves. I just don't think after all this time it still needs reiterating in lengthy posts. I was mainly addressing the same point Mikasa adversaries seem to love bringing up and that's her apparent "obsession" with "Eren!!!"

The people voting here already know both characters pretty well I assume, and I didn't want a campaign where I spend every round saying "she's fun, she can cook, she cares for her friends". I mean after the first two times or so we get it.

A woman forged from her experiences, a woman able to grow despite being opposed by greater forces at every turn, a woman who still has a tender heart despite all of that, and has chosen to devote it to the man she finds worthy isn't someone who can be confined to 4 or 5 posts. Tbh I don't even think I've done her justice. Mikasa is an amazing woman no matter what her opressors would lead you to believe. She's made it this far and I'm happy about that. I'll defend her to the end because she deserves to stand at the absolute top.
 

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Let me repeat myself, as well, then.
As I said in an earlier thread, Mikasa is just resembling Hinata to me with her "devotion", so I'd prefer she wasn't the winner.

Still not as bad as the original.. thing, but yeah.
 

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The pro-Mikasa posts, while showing effort and being nicely made, still just take her only defining trait and amplify it to make it seem like a bigger deal than it is.

Mikasa is okay at best, but being in a relationship with her would be extremely boring because she herself is boring. Nothing more I can say about it. There's simply next to nothing about her that stands out even among the many other waifus that were defeated during this tournament. The only thing that makes her stand out in the story where she's from are her combat skills, and forced main-character status along with Eren. She pales in comparison with the majority of AoT's cast, as sad as it sounds.
 

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This is becoming a Mikasa character analysis thread...
 
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