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Does Mira have a new takeover form in 100YQ arc? And what would it be?


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I have always been mad with the lack of panel time and fights Mirajane gets because I find her Satan Soul magic so interesting but I always assumed Mashima didn’t think the same and didn’t care…

Come to find out Mashima has a whole other new manga based around DEMONS?!?!?! I’m actually distraught lmfaooo
 

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I have always been mad with the lack of panel time and fights Mirajane gets because I find her Satan Soul magic so interesting but I always assumed Mashima didn’t think the same and didn’t care…

Come to find out Mashima has a whole other new manga based around DEMONS?!?!?! I’m actually distraught lmfaooo
And the anime isn't doing a better job expanding on the 2v2 against Skullion and Madmole smh.
 

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And the anime isn't doing a better job expanding on the 2v2 against Skullion and Madmole smh.
If anything they made the fights look slow and sluggish

Don’t get me started on how lazy that purple ball animation was.
 

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If anything they made the fights look slow and sluggish

Don’t get me started on how lazy that purple ball animation was.
That shit looks like Escanor vs Meliodas:feelsbadman
 

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Another soul collection: MiraDaemon

Been a while, folks! What are your current expectations to the Daemon vs Mirajane fight?
 

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Another soul collection: MiraDaemon

Been a while, folks! What are your current expectations to the Daemon vs Mirajane fight?
I’m hoping it doesn’t go the route of Mira vs Seilah again.

Mirajane using card magic would definitely be cool in a takeover
 

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I believe this is the only plausible way for Mirajane to face a dragon and still maintain her relevance even if Dragon Slayers come to her aid in the fight.
 

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I believe this is the only plausible way for Mirajane to face a dragon and still maintain her relevance even if Dragon Slayers come to her aid in the fight.
If she somehow absorbeed Larcade it would be nice. I don't if it would make sense, but it would still be a nice comeback for him. Maybe she can even use a Mard Geer form (there was a design for that in a FT game) or maybe even a Bloodman form, even though the last two ones are more unlikely, but it would still be nice too see them again.


With Larcades sleep magic/curse she could indeed hurt/effect a dragon. I like the idea, let see what Mashima will do.
 

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SOS Mirafans 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨
I'm in shock that they made a remake of our queen's fight against Azuma and brought this incredible form (it's better animated than several official arcs :fan:fan:fan:fan)

(I couldn't embed the video)

 

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So anyone else thinking that Mira vs Scissor runner would potentially finally seal the deal i.e. Mira = Erza= Laxus

That would mean that so far 100 years quest gave us:
- Natsu saying the strongest are in the middle so Mira or Laxus
-Natsu indirectly confirming Mira> IDSM Gajeel as a result (not that we needed it)
- Mira's weakest form being on par with people low diffing full powered Gray
-Heavily injured Mira giving Gray an extreme diff win.
-Mira being immune to devil slayer kryptonite hax vs her demonic forms (Gray and Cana agreed his devil slayer freezing would fail against her like Skullion)
-Laxus and Erza losing to hax by weaker people (Kyria) than Mirajane who has macro.
-Mira vs Skullion > Erza with clear heart + Benizakura vs Kyria
-Mira getting new, hax takeovers eg) Daemon
-And now Mira fighting the same level of opponents as Laxus and Erza which matches back to point 1
 

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It’s still too too too early to have so much hype on Mira:facepalm No way she is = Erza / Laxus.
Hey, it’s 2026 already. As a Mira stan, we should learn from lesson and not to have so much expectation on Hiro.:yodawg
 

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I think Mira can get close to their power level.

At best, she can reach them, but we'll wait and see.
 

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It’s still too too too early to have so much hype on Mira:facepalm No way she is = Erza / Laxus.
Hey, it’s 2026 already. As a Mira stan, we should learn from lesson and not to have so much expectation on Hiro.:yodawg
Also Hiro favors those two way more
 

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Problem is fans in Western anime and manga fandom don't buy hype, statements portrayal and selectively look at feats.
 

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It’s still too too too early to have so much hype on Mira:facepalm No way she is = Erza / Laxus.
Hey, it’s 2026 already. As a Mira stan, we should learn from lesson and not to have so much expectation on Hiro.:yodawg
Natsu ranked her with Laxus and Jellal in the same arc erza tied with Laxus. She was part of the most reliable duo with Erza back in tartaros and they mirrored one another for the entire arc. She is an S class mage and it makes no sense that she would be the only one way weaker than the others because even now Gildarts isn't far off from Laxus and Erza. Mashima recently said he keeps the power level in FT the same basically which more hints at Mira = Erza.

Her weakest form on her first try tied with Skullion while Erza with clear heart+ benizakura was outclassed by Kyria so Erza had to use enchantments. This was her 2nd encounter with Kyria. Gray constantly wanks her and is low diff material for her because he struggled to beat her while she was heavily injured. We've seen how Mira's 2nd weakest form can low diff her weakest form in the no canon Key of the starry sky arc and we still have not seen her full power.

Mira did not get a chance to fight Laxus/Erza/Misaki/Kirin/God Serena so we can't say she is weaker because of this. Fans scale backwards in the western anime/manga fandoms. If she's hyped as a rival to erza, on Laxus and Jellal's level and people like Gray are still afraid of her, struggling against her and telling Lucy to think of her when he thought she could transform into someone to beat the alchemists, then it means the author, despite holding her back, has her on this tier. She also has hax the others do no i.e. macro.

So yes there is actually no evidence that she is weaker than Laxus, Jellal or Erza. Had she fought Laxus/Erza/Kirin/Misaki/God Serena/Jellal and lost in 100 yeats quest fair and square then the argument could be made but after being hyped as their level she has not fought the same enemies as them.
 

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Natsu ranked her with Laxus and Jellal in the same arc erza tied with Laxus.
Just because Natsu said the strongest should be in the middle ?
Ranking the strongest opponents was easy since the begin as even Gray said, before the battles, that fighting Laxus, Gajeel, Jellal and Mira should be a pain.
They are the 4 strongest as opponents for sure but nothing suggest they 4 are even.

I can see 2 tiers here :
* Laxus and Jellal : even Lucy and Jubia said that no one here could contend with Laxus. That point makes Laxus the strongest foe here, and no one was aware he had a new power level, so base Laxus.
* Mira and Gajeel.
Natsu had already beaten Gajeel this moment so It's quite normal he wasn't named here. But Natsu wanted these 4 by himself.

She was part of the most reliable duo with Erza back in tartaros and they mirrored one another for the entire arc.
They mirrored Kyoka and Seilha. Nemesis as great females duos.
Kyoka was above Seilha in charge and strength. They were not rivals. Yes, they mirrored.

Mashima recently said he keeps the power level in FT the same basically which more hints at Mira = Erza.
Do you remember when they were like Natsu and Gray ?

If she's hyped as a rival to erza, on Laxus and Jellal's level
She is hype currently as a team Captain. But not as Generals like Laxus and Erza.

Pre Lisana's presumed death, 2 years before episode 1 if I remember well. This period, Erza was still in trauma, holding back her true power inside her armor. But still, until Tower of Heaven, she still continue to grow. Mirajane was like in chronostasis until Fantasia.
This time, she was still shadow of herself as Erza knew Sitry form so she had used it in the past. Sitry is the strongest version Erza knew.
The time Miarajane was in stasis, Erza has grown and Tower of Heaven skyrockets the gap, unlocking her real power who was contain period due to trauma.

Mirajane is strong but time create a gap between them.

Her weakest form on her first try tied with Skullion
Why didn't she used other forms ? Because the result may be the same. She couldn't touch him and with stronger versions, her stamina may fuelled faster.
Or do you think she could trash him ? Why didn't she do that ? Is she stupid ? I think she is not.
In the end, she said to Elfman, that they couldn't have beaten them.

Gray constantly wanks her
Gray prises all female comrades : Lucy, Erza, Jubia... He is not an arrogant one.
Suggesting Mira when Lucy has to change is a good choice.

low diff material for her because he struggled to beat her while she was heavily injured
It was part of the gag but where was Elfman ? Who took him ?

Lucy and Kana took on Gajeel and Reby. Jubia was magicless.

We've seen how Mira's 2nd weakest form can low diff her weakest form in the no canon Key of the starry sky arc and we still have not seen her full power.
By your logic, she could easily destroyed Skullion as well.
So why admitting she couldn't win the battle ?

So yes there is actually no evidence that she is weaker than Laxus, Jellal or Erza. Had she fought Laxus/Erza/Kirin/Misaki/God Serena/Jellal and lost in 100 yeats quest fair and square then the argument could be made but after being hyped as their level she has not fought the same enemies as them.
Sure she didn't fight such strong ennemies. She contends with Skullion and Daemon. These guys are Laxus' warm-up. Erza contained Red Lightning Laxus until exaustion and defeated a female mirror of Laxus foe in Labyrinth Arc.

Mira is clerly below in hype and power.

Mirajane is strong, one ofthe strongest of the Guild, but Laxus and Erza still remain as the Aces. Natsu is just an anomaly and the most gifted character in the Manga, Naruto like.
 

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Just because Natsu said the strongest should be in the middle ?
Ranking the strongest opponents was easy since the begin as even Gray said, before the battles, that fighting Laxus, Gajeel, Jellal and Mira should be a pain.
They are the 4 strongest as opponents for sure but nothing suggest they 4 are even.
He said the strongest would be in the middle so Mira, Laxus or Jellal. It shows parity.

I can see 2 tiers here :
* Laxus and Jellal : even Lucy and Jubia said that no one here could contend with Laxus. That point makes Laxus the strongest foe here, and no one was aware he had a new power level, so base Laxus.
Funny you would bring this up since Lucy literally said speaking of tough opponents (Mira) Laxus and Jellal remain.

* Mira and Gajeel.
Natsu had already beaten Gajeel this moment so It's quite normal he wasn't named here. But Natsu wanted these 4 by himself.
Actually since he beat Gajeel at right hand city then stating that the strongest would be in the middle means that Mira, Laxus and Jellal > Gajeel. Why would he assume the strongest are in the middle when he beat someone, by your logic, stronger than Mira, at right hand city?



They mirrored Kyoka and Seilha. Nemesis as great females duos.
Kyoka was above Seilha in charge and strength. They were not rivals. Yes, they mirrored.
Actually their performance in that entire arc were paralleled. They were called the most reliable members when Laxus and Gildarts were unavailable and portrayed as two equals on a team not Erza and her assistant. Then after actually having paralleled panels taking down Tartaros fodder in their basic armors/takeoever they both broke free from hell's core/Kyoka's dungeon. Then Mira had her sitri two shot by Seilah while Erza had her Armadura one shot by Kyoka leaving both of them to push past their limits to beat the demons i.e. Mira improved her takeoever power to take seilah's power and command elfman and Erza developed a sixth sense basically to attack Kyoka before minerva killed her.



Do you remember when they were like Natsu and Gray ?
How is this relevant. Erza isn't Natsu who is the main who steamrolls everyone else and we've seen people like Laxus tie with her and Jellal trap her (bind snake).



She is hype currently as a team Captain. But not as Generals like Laxus and Erza.
That's not a thing.

Pre Lisana's presumed death, 2 years before episode 1 if I remember well. This period, Erza was still in trauma, holding back her true power inside her armor. But still, until Tower of Heaven, she still continue to grow. Mirajane was like in chronostasis until Fantasia.
This is actually a fandom headcanon since Mira's performance against Azuma with her basic satan soul disproved this. She actually did better in basic satan soul than Erza did in her heaven's wheel, blackwing, flight armors etc. Mira blitzed him and landed a powerful kick on him, matched him in hand to hand and her nuke damaged his shield and him. She really got hit when looking at lisanna and gave up for Lisanna, Before this she said she might win if she put all her power into attack which is exactly what erza said i.e. after her armors were outmatched that she would likely have to put all her power into attack. Mashima paralelled them again. To make it more obvious neither uses Sitri and Armadura, their aces that they both faced and thought to be the other's strongest armors.

This time, she was still shadow of herself as Erza knew Sitry form so she had used it in the past. Sitry is the strongest version Erza knew.
The time Miarajane was in stasis, Erza has grown and Tower of Heaven skyrockets the gap, unlocking her real power who was contain period due to trauma.

Mirajane is strong but time create a gap between them.
Again, it's a fan theory. Nothing ever indicated or showed Mira being stunted because of her hiatus or Erza growing due to training or facing tough opponents. Mira debunked this by her Freed, Azuma, Tartaros showings. Makarov even said after Erza had her own team that he should have a Team with Mira, Laxus and Gildarts to ensure winning. He didn't say Gajeel and Gray lmao



Why didn't she used other forms ? Because the result may be the same. She couldn't touch him and with stronger versions, her stamina may fuelled faster.
Or do you think she could trash him ? Why didn't she do that ? Is she stupid ? I think she is not.
In the end, she said to Elfman, that they couldn't have beaten them.
Mira just cycled through BSS, Seilah and Alegria vs Daemon. Please save me the 'stamina' lie the fandom spreads. Ever think she gets drained because of how powerful her aces are? Erza doesn't casually boil the sea by just wearing an armor. And this 'stamina' issue never seemed to affect her and erza as kids or even now vs tartaros, alvarez and skullion/Gray/Lucy.

Using an obvious case of Mira, just like Erza not going all out vs Skullion/Kyria/Madmole to claim she could not go into Halphas even though she was basically fresh at the start is disingenuous. Oh wow and Erza was shocked Kyria was strong and Laxus beat her and same Kyria broke Benizakura after clashing evenly with Erza is swordsmanship. Yes I think she could trash him since I saw Halphas low diff BSS and Mira's macro is working on Faris' demons at present.



Gray prises all female comrades : Lucy, Erza, Jubia... He is not an arrogant one.
Suggesting Mira when Lucy has to change is a good choice.
COPE. Gray has been praising and showing fear of Mira throughout 100 years quest. He waited for her to be heavily injured to fight her and still struggled. Juvia actually said he did his best.



It was part of the gag but where was Elfman ? Who took him ?

Lucy and Kana took on Gajeel and Reby. Jubia was magicless.
Cana said he struggled with Mirajane and he said his opponent was Mirajane so logically he low diffed Elfman then had a dragged out fight with Mira.



By your logic, she could easily destroyed Skullion as well.
So why admitting she couldn't win the battle ?
Why was Erza shocked that Kyria lost to Laxus? Why did she call her strong? Yeah she pretty much could if she uses Macro or Halphas for example. If Macro can make Daemon try to kill herself...well...



Sure she didn't fight such strong ennemies. She contends with Skullion and Daemon. These guys are Laxus' warm-up. Erza contained Red Lightning Laxus until exaustion and defeated a female mirror of Laxus foe in Labyrinth Arc.
Oh so you're admitting she didn't fight them ok cool. So we can't say she would lose then since it was her weakest form who tied with Skullion while Erza's ace attacking form was hindered by Kyria. lol

Mira is clerly below in hype and power.
Not really:

-Most reliable duo with Erza
-Strongest in the middle so Mira, Laxus or Jellal- according to Natsu
-Gray struggled to beat her heavily injured after he waited for her to be heavily injured and after she tied with the guy who low diffed him.
-Laxus warning Jellal that Mira is the one girl who he doesn't want to mess with
- Makarov said he could win the GMG with a team of Mira, Laxus and Gildarts
-Heine and Julliet compared her magical power to Makarov
-Gray and Lucy amazed at her BSS power taking down wood monsters made by Aldoron
-Gray thinking of Mira as the person Lucy should change into to beat alchemists
-Gray saying she has no weaknesses
-Gray saying fighting Laxus, Jellal, Mira and Gajeel would be tough (lol Gajeel last)

Mirajane is strong, one ofthe strongest of the Guild, but Laxus and Erza still remain as the Aces. Natsu is just an anomaly and the most gifted character in the Manga, Naruto like.
Nope. Mira is always portrayed as Erza's equal/rival/mirror when they are put in the same situations, are together or fight the same calibre of enemy. And now that Mashima stated that he intends to keep the fairy tail guild power scaling the same it would just lump her with Erza more. The only difference is that Erza gets fights and Mira is left out but everytime she is featured timeskip after timeskip we see her still being someone wanked by all the others.

vs Azuma
skip 7 years - most reliable duo, Laxus hyping her
skip 1 year - another beside makarov with great magic power. Gray was freaking out by Brandish having more than Makarov
skip 1 year - compared to Laxus and Jellal and shown way beyond Gray/Gajeel and now is fighting a Calamity blood like Laxus and Erza. Difference is seemingly they are being overwhelmed and she is getting back up.
 

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Mira might lack concrete feats because she doesn’t have many detailed fights, but doubting her standing just because of 'hype' is wild. Gray, a Devil Slayer, explicitly stated she has no weaknesses and wouldn't even dream of taking her on directly, even with Lucy, Juvia, and Cana backing him up. It’s clear that Mashima treats her as a character who is meant to be respected above all else.
 
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