Fantasy Mirajane vs. Minerva

[Jko]

Base Mira fought Jacob who eyes were closed and wasn’t using transport. Any of the H12>Nerfed Jacob.

Lol no. The H12 were fodder compared to an S12 and that was why they were getting rekt. It was already noted the decrease was huge by Gild who thought Serena was capable of giving him a run for his money in his prime.

Jacob closing his eyes didn't nerf him in any capacity. Nerf means he was weakened but closing your eyes doesn't weaken your stats or magic. Mira was the one actually nerfed as she was injured and magically exhausted. Jacob also says he can see presences so him closing his eyes doesn't effect his combat ability.

None of the S12 also used their hax or most powerful moves effectively so it doesn't matter she didn't negate his transport. Minerva would get smacked by any S12 in one hit which is why she was only capable of stalemating a severely nerfed H12.

Base Mira has better feats than Minerva.

 

[Crimson Ice]

Lol no. The H12 were fodder compared to an S12 and that was why they were getting rekt. It was already noted the decrease was huge by Gild who thought Serena was capable of giving him a run for his money in his prime.

Jacob closing his eyes didn't nerf him in any capacity. Nerf means he was weakened but closing your eyes doesn't weaken your stats or magic. Mira was the one actually nerfed as she was injured and magically exhausted. Jacob also says he can see presences so him closing his eyes doesn't effect his combat ability.

None of the S12 also used their hax or most powerful moves effectively so it doesn't matter she didn't negate his transport. Minerva would get smacked by any S12 in one hit which is why she was only capable of stalemating a severely nerfed H12.

Base Mira has better feats than Minerva.

And Jacob is fucking trash without transport, what's your point?

Mira herself said it did in the little volume extras her and Lucy do. Him closing his eyes doesn't drop his MP but it effects his ability to fight, we know Jacob couldn't even put significant damage on Lucy.

"None of the S12 used their hax or powerful moves" Lie again, the fight was off-paneled and we see Bradman go from base to the third seal. H12>Nerfed Jacob. Base Mira gets smacked by Minerva.

 

[Jko]

And Jacob is fucking trash without transport, what's your point?

Mira herself said it did in the little volume extras her and Lucy do. Him closing his eyes doesn't drop his MP but it effects his ability to fight, we know Jacob couldn't even put significant damage on Lucy.

"None of the S12 used their hax or powerful moves" Lie again, the fight was off-paneled and we see Bradman go from base to the third seal. H12>Nerfed Jacob. Base Mira gets smacked by Minerva.

No, he is not. Natsu wouldn't use FDKM on trash especially when he has yet to use the mode in the 100YQ. Also Jacob >>> H12.

He didn't even fight Lucy with his eyes closed lol. And Jacob in the anime told us that he did not need his eyes to fight.

Third Seal is trash. Bloodman would have killed Gajeel with top hax of Tartarus. No, Jacob would demolish any H12 and again his stats aren't nerfed. Base Mira would smack Minerva lol.

 

[Crimson Ice]

No, he is not. Natsu wouldn't use FDKM on trash especially when he has yet to use the mode in the 100YQ. Also Jacob >>> H12.

He didn't even fight Lucy with his eyes closed lol. And Jacob in the anime told us that he did not need his eyes to fight.

Third Seal is trash. Bloodman would have killed Gajeel with top hax of Tartarus. No, Jacob would demolish any H12 and again his stats aren't nerfed. Base Mira would smack Minerva lol.

Natsu didn't even use FDKM on Zeref, what does that mean? He's used FDKM Attacks in 100Q. H12>Nerfed Jacob.

I know he didn't fight Lucy with his eye closed, that's irrelevant, his punches attacks couldn't damage Lucy. Don't use anime filler, the MANGA extras have Mira say him closing his eyes affected him.

Third seal IS BRADMAN'S FINAL FORM! You say the Historias didn't go all out which is a lie. What hax is beating Gajeel? Please tell me, and don't you say dumbass Macro, it's not 2016 I'm not having that 'Macro can beat anyone' debate.

Jacob is literally losing to any H12 with transport restricted. Base Mira isn't beating ANY of Saber's top mages.

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And BASE Mira doesn't beat Jacob, SS Mira does. Look at you, giving feats Mira doesn't have.

 

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

I vote Minerva only because I knew that Mirajane's stans would vote for her and make it appear that she is far away stronger than Minerva. I think Mirajane wins this with extreme difficulty.

- Minerva has her spatial magic to use for defense so she can block Mirajane punches and explosions.
- Minerva's reflexes are good.
- Minerva was able to endure a long fight against Wahl Historia, she even hit him in close combat and threw him on the floor. She defeated him, and Wahl even in her initial form was able to tank Laxus's strength, so your weak version still hard to knock out.

Mirajane is a little superior because her arsenal is superior, but even Mirajane's Alegria form would be very expansive to her.

 

[Ramen]

^^What kind of extreme stupidity is this?

 

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

^^What kind of extreme stupidity is this?

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[Ramen]

Mira low-mid diffs Minerva.

 

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

Mira low-mid diffs Minerva.

In your dream.

 

[Plutogrim]

Mira low-mid diffs Minerva.

Do you really think that Mirajane will low-mid diff Minerva?
If anything is a high diff.

 

[Ramen]

Do you really think that Mirajane will low-mid diff Minerva?
If anything is a high diff.

Featless Minerva? Yes

 

[Ramen]

Minerva couldn't even beat a Historia S12 lmao

 

[Aurelius]

Whenever I read @Plutogrim posts, I then look at his avi and then accept whatever he says as gospel. So, Mira wins high diff

 

[Plutogrim]

Whenever I read @Plutogrim posts, I then look at his avi and then accept whatever he says as gospel. So, Mira wins high diff

I'll take that as a compliment.

 

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

Minerva couldn't even beat an Historia S12 lmao

Actually she beat it. You can see in the link (with scans of the official translation) that Minerva threw Wahl to the ground, she says that can't be sure whether Sabertooth defeated the Historias or if Neinhart was defeated, BUT the reader knows that a lot happened after Natsu have kicked out Neinhart's butt; Natsu was kidnaped by Dimaria, defeated her, and fought Gray, Makarov used Fairy Law, etc. Chronologically, the Historias remained fighting even after his master being defeated. https://v1.mangabeast01.com/manga/Fairy-Tail/0508-002.png
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Erza praised God Serena's Historia. Minerva fought Wahl when Neinhart was only keeping two summons on the battlefield ( thus Neinhart and Bloodman were strong versions than GS). In the middle of the fight, Neinhart was boosted by Irene (he even said that his magic power had outstripped its limits, https://v1.mangabeast01.com/manga/Fairy-Tail/0500-019.png ), so why are you saying that Wahl Historia was weak? We can assume that Wahl Historias was more or less with 50% of his original self.

 

[Ramen]

Actually she beat it. You can see in the link (with scans of the official translation) that Minerva threw Wahl to the ground, she says that can't be sure whether Sabertooth defeated the Historias or if Neinhart was defeated, BUT the reader knows that a lot happened after Natsu have kicked out Neinhart's butt; Natsu was kidnaped by Dimaria, defeated her, and fought Gray, Makarov used Fairy Law, etc. Chronologically, the Historias remained fighting even after his master being defeated. https://v1.mangabeast01.com/manga/Fairy-Tail/0508-002.png
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Erza praised God Serena's Historia. Minerva fought Wahl when Neinhart was only keeping two summons on the battlefield ( thus Neinhart and Bloodman were strong versions than GS). In the middle of the fight, Neinhart was boosted by Irene (he even said that his magic power had outstripped its limits, https://v1.mangabeast01.com/manga/Fairy-Tail/0500-019.png ), so why are you saying that Wahl Historia was weak? We can assume that Wahl Historias was more or less with 50% of his original self.

She literally says she cannot determine whether she beat them.

Mira has better feats than Minerva. Minerva hasn't been relevant since the Tartaros.

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Welp I guess Sting is stronger than Natsu because Minerva says he can surpass him lmao.

 

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

She literally says she cannot determine whether she beat them.

Mira has better feats than Minerva. Minerva hasn't been relevant since the Tartaros.

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Welp I guess Sting is stronger than Natsu because Minerva says he can surpass him lmao.

She literally knows that Wahl and Bloodman were dead people keeping in the field by a caster. She literally knows that a way to deal with this kind of foe is defeating their caster (she asked Yukino to go find the caster and defeat it). But the reader literally knows that it's been hours since Neinhart's defeat and literally can see that the Historias were lying on the floor because Minerva and Rogue's attack, they didn't vanish in the air suddenly. Minerva only put the probability of the caster defeat on the count.

????? Mira didn't have a proper fight since Tenroujima.

 

[Ramen]

????? Mira didn't have a proper fight since Tenroujima.

She literally beat J/H and Jacob

 

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

She literally beat J/H and Jacob

Heyne and Juliet that didn't prove to be stronger than Wahl 50%.
Jacob, without using his eyes, without his hax magic, and that couldn't even hurt badly Lucy after hit her a lot of times. Jacob didn't lose to one punch of Natsu because the Salamander was fighting trying not to damage the guild.


I prefer the Sprigan that tanked Laxu's physical strength, even if the version with half of his power.

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But, yeah, Mirajane has better offensive power. She has Alegria form (that can't be used as a trump against Minerva), so she is a little superior, but overall is a very hard fight for her.

 

[Ramen]

No it's not. Mira is far stronger than Minerva.