Shounen Naruto by Masashi Kishimoto

[Rikudou King]

Pretty much

traditional kids cartoons just arent as good as anime, even for kids

That may be true in most cases, but both MLP and ATLA are great, just as good as any anime. You won't be disappointed. You could also try the French cartoon Wakfu and it's prequel Dofus.

 

[Rarhyx]

did someone mention ranma 1/2?

 

[Schabrak]

Pretty much

traditional kids cartoons just arent as good as anime, even for kids

Not really, since most anime are mediocre to shit too. Sorry for telling the truth. You just pick and chose the 10-20% that is any good.

 

[ninjabot]

I recommend Guyver, Genocyber, Demon City Shinjuku, Elfen Lied and Ninja Scroll.

Only for starters. Don't want them to start watching anything gory until they're older.

 

[KingOfNight]

Elfen Lied.

Don't want them to start watching anything gory until they're older.

Trolling hard with this one, ninjabot

 

[Schabrak]

That one? All of those.

The 10 year barrier? Kids these days.

did someone mention ranma 1/2?

Let's begin with Urusei Yatsura. :P

 

[ninjabot]

Trolling hard with this one, ninjabot

:3

Well, to be fair, if they've watched all of DBZ, they're used to seeing people get chopped to pieces before getting charred with energy blasts. Or having heads chopped off, or holes punched through them.

I'd say seeing a naked girl walk around turning people into hamburger with her mind wouldn't be that much of an increase in gore. And Genocyber is probably worse. Actual kids having brains exploded outta their heads?

 

[Schabrak]

I would rather let the kid see some naked person than too much violence or a good ballance of both.

 

[REN KOUEN]

I recommend Guyver, Genocyber, Demon City Shinjuku, Elfen Lied and Ninja Scroll.

Only for starters. Don't want them to start watching anything gory until they're older.

Sadly they already experienced elfen leid on accident

(Browsing netflix with no childfilter)

 

[Nuno]

Hello friends. Just letting you know about the yearbook submission thread. Like the thread says you can send in pretty much anything if you'd like. For example a message, a funny/good/whatever post, a story from the forum, art work, stuff like that. Would be cool to get some contributions from the most notorious forum on MH.

Also would be epic priceless with a great edit of sorts, if any of you creative people have any ideas floating in your dark minds. Text stuff is obviously also OK e.g. bloom'esque stuff. Like I said pretty much anything can be a fit =)

 

[Bloomerwedgies]

^ augh, now the pressure's on! Quick, self... think of something hilarious!
No, wait... maybe I should contribute something that will touch even the most hardened heart on the forums... something that will give everyone Extreme Feels... a flood of tears... youtube fmv's with sad songs dedicated to me...
yessss
*tents fingers*

 

[Rikudou King]

That doesn't show how anything. Again, we have no idea what can Zetsu do. This also has nothing to do with his plan, as it never mentioned Zetsu. The plan went by luck, deal with it already.

It's not a single translation, both Mangastream and Mangapanda state that he was immobilized\unable to move.

It literally shows Madara putting Black Zetsu in place for later use. And we know quite a bit about what Zetsu can do, we've been seeing what they can do since the end of the Pain Invasion arc. And trying to claim that Madara's plan never mentioned Zetsu is moot when said plan never went into specifics. Point remains that we were told that Black Zetsu was made for that purpose, and trying to claim that it was luck when Madara had a direct hand in bring it about is ridiculous.

And there's quite a difference, especially when the part talking isn't the part that later comes to help Madara.

 

[KingOfNight]

It literally shows Madara putting Black Zetsu in place for later use. And we know quite a bit about what Zetsu can do, we've been seeing what they can do since the end of the Pain Invasion arc. And trying to claim that Madara's plan never mentioned Zetsu is moot when said plan never went into specifics. Point remains that we were told that Black Zetsu was made for that purpose, and trying to claim that it was luck when Madara had a direct hand in bring it about is ridiculous.

And there's quite a difference, especially when the part talking isn't the part that later comes to help Madara.

What's ridiculous is you trying to claim that Obito's defeat was not by luck. Or the fact that he wasn't killed on the spot by Sasuke. Zetsu doesn't matter, the plan itself was moved by luck.

There's none. He was pwned. End of story.

 

[REN KOUEN]

^ augh, now the pressure's on! Quick, self... think of something hilarious!
No, wait... maybe I should contribute something that will touch even the most hardened heart on the forums... something that will give everyone Extreme Feels... a flood of tears... youtube fmv's with sad songs dedicated to me...
yessss
*tents fingers*

good thing minato isnt more active in the story right now

if so we may have to rename teh CAPSLOCK thread to the FAPSLOCK thread because me and marshal would shower everyone with our minato fan-boyness

 

[Ryr]

What's ridiculous is you trying to claim that Obito's defeat was not by luck. Or the fact that he wasn't killed on the spot by Sasuke. Zetsu doesn't matter, the plan itself was moved by luck.

There's none. He was pwned. End of story.

Madara's plan involved Black Zetsu backstabbing Obito.

It's all about the timing and seeing the right opportunity.

 

[Rikudou King]

What's ridiculous is you trying to claim that Obito's defeat was not by luck. Or the fact that he wasn't killed on the spot by Sasuke. Zetsu doesn't matter, the plan itself was moved by luck.

There's none. He was pwned. End of story.

First off, I'm not claiming anything about Obito's defeat. Obito is inconsequential to this discussion as already pointed out. Whether he lived or died, he would have been Madara's puppet. Secondly, Zetsu does matter, because the entire claim about "luck" being involved is centered around Black Zetsu helping him and we are shown that Black Zetsu was always meant to do what he did (he declares that to Obito right before). Madara calling Black Zetsu to the battlefield hours before makes Zetsu's actions directly due to Madara's action, meaning there isn't anything lucky about Black Zetsu helping Madara. And thirdly, your argument doesn't even fit the situation. The phrase "beggars can't be choosers" only fits if said person has to do without something, which isn't the case here. Everything Madara intended still happened, the only change is simply the order of events.

Yes there is. His upper half not being able to move does not prevent the lower half from moving, as was clearly shown. Seriously, how could he have been defeated when we are literally shown he was capable of still fighting? That would be like someone trying to claim that when Naruto and Sasuke got knocked down by Obito, it was his win, and completely ignoring what was shown right after.

 

[KingOfNight]

First off, I'm not claiming anything about Obito's defeat. Obito is inconsequential to this discussion as already pointed out. Whether he lived or died, he would have been Madara's puppet. Secondly, Zetsu does matter, because the entire claim about "luck" being involved is centered around Black Zetsu helping him and we are shown that Black Zetsu was always meant to do what he did (he declares that to Obito right before). Madara calling Black Zetsu to the battlefield hours before makes Zetsu's actions directly due to Madara's action, meaning there isn't anything lucky about Black Zetsu helping Madara. And thirdly, your argument doesn't even fit the situation. The phrase "beggars can't be choosers" only fits if said person has to do without something, which isn't the case here. Everything Madara intended still happened, the only change is simply the order of events.

Yes there is. His upper half not being able to move does not prevent the lower half from moving, as was clearly shown. Seriously, how could he have been defeated when we are literally shown he was capable of still fighting? That would be like someone trying to claim that when Naruto and Sasuke got knocked down by Obito, it was his win, and completely ignoring what was shown right after.

Well, sucks for you then, since I'm talking about his plans in general. BZ was only of use because Obito was thrown there by luck.

His and Madara's words are enough. I won't repeat them for the hundredth time.

 

[Rikudou King]

... The argument remains the same, given that's it's specifically about his overall plan. You could only claim it was luck if you could prove that either Black Zetsu was of no possible help in any other way or that only Naruto/Sasuke were capable of defeating Obito and without them Madara would have been beaten, neither of which are possible or even reasonable.

You shouldn't be repeating them at all, since I already pointed out the translations varies. Unless you were able to establish that the translation you tried to use was the closest in meaning, it's not proof. And unfortunately, as far as trusted translations go, I'm the one proven correct.

 

[KingOfNight]

It doesn't work like that. It's you who has to prove he could've dealt with Obito. As far as the Manga shown, he was defeated by Hashirama. If Obito wasn't down by then, he would've lost. You have to prove otherwise.

You're just going to fall on that translation? Matters not, even that one he says he can't move. The other two also say he can't. In the first place, why does this have to be a trusted translation? Because it doesn't look that trusted to me.

 

[REN KOUEN]

Edo tensei madara could have probably bitchslapped obito