Natural Opponents

[ofir271]

many of the DF users have natural oponents that will have an advantage agianst them.

here are some of them:

(ofir271) luffy rubber agaist enel lightning
(ofir271) the marine that can make everything rust agaist MR 1 or zoro
(ofir271) miss valentine weight control against BB gravity control.(probably wont work)
(ofir271) ace > aokiji - fire against ice.
(ofir271) buggy >law
(roarzan) Hancock> sanji - knockout on the first round
(roarzan) kizaru > foxy - light is too fast to slow
(Razh) Croc > Aokiji -croc can suck moister so no ice can form
(beastboy) enel >kuma -lightning against metal
(bittman) ace >Magellan-fire burn poison
(beastboy) Captain with the berry berry fruit agains croc (berry's have water inside...)
(d3death) Usopp > Perona
(The Sea) kid > mr 1
(braindamage351)Alvida vs. Kalifa (Alvida is already perfectly smooth)
(braindamage351)Kizaru vs. Moria (no shadows)
(braindamage351)Ace vs. Mr 3 (candles melt)
(monkey D luffy)perona vs blackbeard (in ghost mode)
(monkey D luffy)enel vs aokiji
(Razh)Alvida vs Magellan's liquid attacks. (poison might slide of her?)
(polemidis)Jewelry Bonny vs Luffy at a food contest
(Lobotomy Jane)sanji vs boa
(BlindMunkey)BB vs kizaru

this is just part of the list.i stoped adding to it,since its becoming quite long.
the conversation is very much alive,please keep your posts going

 

[BlackHair]

Re: a natural oponents

-miss valentine weight control against BB gravity control.

Even if miss valentine reduces her weight to 0 gravity would still suck her in, as long she is physical material. Not to mention that her clothes have their own weight. I don't see how she can be called "natural enemy".

I think adding to Buggy, Robin would fit as well against Law.

 

[Roarchu]

Re: a natural oponents

if mass = 0

then weight = 0

that's the only way. But she can't so she doesn't count.

Mby BB is naturall enemy to Kizaru, cuz he said he has infinte gravity. Idk if that's true, but if it is then he can beat Kizaru, cuz not even light can escape black holes and stuff.
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Hancock to Sanji

Kizaru to Foxy - cuz light's too fast. Light's always the same speed relatively just cuz it's too fast. well idreallyk if Foxy's power makes things just slower or reduces it to a fraction of its total speed so idk

 

[Razh]

Re: a natural oponents

Even if miss valentine reduces her weight to 0 gravity would still suck her in, as long she is physical material. Not to mention that her clothes have their own weight. I don't see how she can be called "natural enemy".

I don't think she could be called natural enemy either.
But reducing her weight would be endlessly stupid. How about increasing her weight from beginning, or increasing her weight as she flies toward Blackbeard. That would pack a nice blow.

Crocodile could be effective against Aokiji. Far enough from the water that is. Aokiji needs moist in order to create ice. And Crocodile deals in absorbing the moisture.

 

[d3death]

Re: a natural oponents

Mr 1 was supposed to be natural against zoro.. no one had managed to cut him..

buggy against trafangar law

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even if buggy can split... law can burn him..

 

[Razh]

Re: a natural oponents

With what?

Oh, you must mean that flamethrower that Law carries on his back.

 

[d3death]

Re: a natural oponents

With what?

Oh, you must mean that flamethrower that Law carries on his back.

he manged to burn a marine in his "room" here

and the ring of fire under his hand here

 

[Razh]

Re: a natural oponents

He didn't burn a marine. A cannonball did it. When it exploded.

And that's not fire under his hand. He's not Ace. That's probably connected to that room of his.

 

[beastboy]

well I thin the power of the "room" is something like if anything happens in some place of the room it will affect all room, or something like that, but no one affected by that hit dies.
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well, enel-kuma (kuma is made of metal and probably a conductive one (See nami's atack) so enel would beat him with ease

 

[bittman]

I would agree with Buggy v Law. I mean, don't get me wrong, Law would win, but this isn't about who would win, just natural weaknesses.

I mean, Luffy didn't beat Enel easy because he was super effective against Zapdos.

Smoker v Ace -> not a natural opposite, but Ace was shown to be effective against Smoke

Magellan v Brawlers -> see the first Luffy fight

I'll have to think about others. Some like Mr 5 v Ace pop into my mind, but there are tons of characters in One Piece to compare and think about....

 

[ofir271]

i added some more opponents from the discussion.

bittman about Magellan against Brawlers ,can you remind me who brawlers is?
blackhair about robin agaist law - i idont sure i agree on that one i think law is the natural winner here

about miss valentine i agree she cant make it to the end but i would still want to see that fight

 

[Razh]

He meant close range barehanded fighter types.

 

[BlackHair]

Magellan is poison, therefore we need a df which is either immune or able to neutralize poison. So my first thought would be Ace, since heat can kill virus, poison etc.

About Ace vs Smoker, weren't those elements equally balanced? Neither one of them was dominating, so I wouldn't put them against each other.

BB himself is darkness, so light or fire would be the opposite. About the gravity, I thought maybe a "ghost" or sth would be immune, not sure though xD

Until Kizrau was introduced with the light logia, I always expected WB to be the one with the light element. As a natural hindrance of Blackbeard. Just my thoughts...

 

[beastboy]

dont talk about kizaru, monday I discovered that is laser is yellow, What a dissapointment..
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@on topic
Captain with the berry berry fruit agains croc (berry's have water inside...)

 

[Razh]

Well, light won't do anything special to Blackbeard since nothing escapes the black hole.
I do think Kizaru would have beaten Blackbeard though.

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dont talk about kizaru, monday I discovered that is laser is yellow, What a dissapointment..

Umm, what color did you think it was? White?

Besides, Kuma already used the laser, on Thriller Bark.

 

[d3death]

how could we forget Usopp vs Perona

although he lacks a DF.. but he is the the natural enemy of Perona.

Horohorohoro~~

 

[beastboy]

not that laser, Kuma used a red laser I think, I thought kizaru's laser as red!!
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No one said that kizaru would win, they said that kizaru would lose ^^.

And the guy above my previous post only said that light and darkness are opposites just like White Beard and Black beard, so light=WB^^

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edit: damn the laser is yellow, but that doesn't seams kizaru laser, thas elly A BEAM^^

 

[The Sea]

Buggy against Law? I don't think so. Law controls space, and Buggy can do nothing with him. He just need to stick a cannon ball on Buggy and..........

But:
Kidd against Mr.1.

 

[BlindMunkey]

Kidd against Mr.1.

yep thts way better.

i wonder how buggy vs mr.1 sounds?

 

[Razh]

not that laser, Kuma used a red laser I think, I thought kizaru's laser as red!!
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No one said that kizaru would win, they said that kizaru would lose ^^.

And the guy above my previous post only said that light and darkness are opposites just like White Beard and Black beard, so light=WB^^
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edit: damn the laser is yellow, but that doesn't seams kizaru laser, thas elly A BEAM^^

It's derived from Kizaru's DF, like Drake said. So it has the same color.
Anyway, why would a light devil fruit user shoot red lasers? It's not like the sun in One Piece is red.

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Buggy against Law? I don't think so. Law controls space, and Buggy can do nothing with him. He just need to stick a cannon ball on Buggy and..........

Where would he get the canon ball from?
Oh and people could still move inside the Room. They were confused because their body parts were never split before.
Buggy on the other hand is used to flying around in parts, so Law couldn't really do that much with his sword.
That's not to say that I think Buggy would win.