Discussion New Roles and New Rules Suggestion Thread

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Submissions for new roles need to follow the next format in order to be considered:

I. [Place Holder Name]

II. [Affiliation]

III. [Short Description]

IV. [Long Description/Idea/Premise/Scope]

V. [Priority/RoleType/Interactions/other Specifics]

I. Troublemaker

II.
Town

III. Can once per game make a Day phase lynch be the top 2 voted people instead of regular 1 top voted person. Every player has 2 votes but cannot vote the same player twice.

IV. PMs the host on the night before the day he wishes to use his power on. Host announces at start of day that the 2 top voted players will be lynched.
Everyone gets 2 votes that they can use on 2 individual players. Both can be moved once like usual. Example:
!votekill1 PlayerX
!votekill2 PlayerY
!votelock2
(locks on PlayerY).

Any other format is also fine as long as players specify who they are voting and if it's a new vote or they are changing their first one.

V. Doesn't have a Priority, happens at the end of night after all other actions. Doesn't target another player. Primary role.

Since it happens at the end of a phase, the player can be both blocked and killed to prevent it happening.


I. Psychiatrist

II. Townie

III. The Psychiatrist investigates one person per night phase to see if the player has a Secondary Role. They get a "Your target has a secondary role" if that is the case, and a "Your target does not have a secondary role" if it's not. The Psychiatrist does not find out the allegiance of the target.

IV. It's a counter for scum secondaries without outright revealing them, leaving room for guess work and player reading.

V. Priority 2, Primary Role.

Current roles Approved for testing here

Rules on including those in a game:
  • A host can take any of these roles and test them in their game. Depending on results from testing the role it will either be included into the Role list or need more changes/testing.
  • A host at the very least has to announce in the opening post of the game that new roles are being tested, or alternatively even more specifically reveal the roles that are being tested.
Link to the last update post with the roles that are either close to approval or were not approved: here.
 
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Ooooh. Sounds nice then.

If used properly, it can confirm 2 townies, or even more.

On the other hand, it leaves a lot of questions. What happens if it targets a mason/recruiter? Or the Sleeper? (that would be super troll, lol)
You would transfom in Mason recruit or sleeper, and they will transform in normal townie. If you take a naive doctor for example, you would be one as well.
 

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And just another question, to clarify everything. How much priority the role has? I mean, it should be the last role used in the night, right?
 

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And just another question, to clarify everything. How much priority the role has? I mean, it should be the last role used in the night, right?
Second priority. Only killing would be after
 

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Pirate (Townie): At a night of his choice the Pirate may choose a Townie he wants to steal the ability from. From that point in the game the robbed Townie's ability becomes non existing without him knowing it and the Pirate is free to use it as his own. If the Pirate tries to steal the ability from a Mafia or Third Party Member, the Pirate dies.


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Pirate (Townie): At a night of his choice the Pirate may choose a Townie he wants to steal the ability from. From that point in the game the robbed Townie's ability becomes non existing without him knowing it and the Pirate is free to use it as his own. If the Pirate tries to steal the ability from a Mafia or Third Party Member, the Pirate dies.


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This includes freeman? role craziness right now...
 

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The pirate would become the freeman. Or the bomb. Or something other, I don't know, that's how I got it.
 

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He'd become anything, I guess that's the fun part of it (plus the naive thing, the freeman wouldn't be a freeman anymore). He's not a copycat, he's a thief. But since he doesn't have to use his ability in the first night, he can try to find something better for himself.
 

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But one question, does he get to know what role he robbed?
 

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But one question, does he get to know what role he robbed?
Yes, he receive a pm saying what role he have now.
There is one thing i think we need to discuss, the role who have been stole it and have pm feedback. In the next night , he receive a pm like he is naive or like him been blocked?
I prefer blocked, but lala prefer naive.
 

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The Pirate should not know the sanity of the role he robbed though.
 

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I would have prefered if he doesn't know it, as like mentioned before from Hardy's side they would again all "confirm" each other, as the pirate would know the role of this Townie, and I think this is a very bad development and pretty much poison for the game.
Also it would have been funny, if he doesn't know which role it is, and trying out things on people to find out what it is, sumthin. dunno.

As for the robbed Detective, I would just ignore his PM as host, as he is no longer a Detective. *shrug*
 

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I would have prefered if he doesn't know it, as like mentioned before from Hardy's side they would again all "confirm" each other, as the pirate would know the role of this Townie, and I think this is a very bad development and pretty much poison for the game.
Also it would have been funny, if he doesn't know which role it is, and trying out things on people to find out what it is, sumthin. dunno.

As for the robbed Detective, I would just ignore his PM as host, as he is no longer a Detective. *shrug*
Hmm but have the other side as well no? You loose a doctor (for example) and you dont know what role you have? Its kinda a loss for townie. In a freeman case could generate a lot of chaos.
And Mafia can take profit of this, he can say he "robbed" a role of another mafia and people trust them , for example. But for me, this is okay.

For the robbed detective, if it this way, would prove that both are townies no?
 

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Yeah but then he tries to find out which role he actually has himself, from the hints of the robbed guy.

Yeah, I see your point. But what about the Spy? You can't really turn him into naive.
 

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Yeah but then he tries to find out which role he actually has himself, from the hints of the robbed guy.

Yeah, I see your point. But what about the Spy? You can't really turn him into naive.
For spy you can tell "your target didn't visit anyone" for all people. The same when you spy someone who dosent have night role
 
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This role is confusing as hell.
There is some points are more confusing , because of that we are discuss now. But i think after we make a decision, its not that complicated.
 
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