Discussion NNT versus thread

[OtakuFreak]

Off guard?She was literally facing Derriere.

So? It wasn't a battle and she was more concerned with negotiating and fighting. By this logic, Elizabeth as a human out-sped Assault Meliodas when she slapped him, when in reality, he was simply off-guard and allowed it to happen (similar to Elizabeth)

We already know PL's rise when in battle and the situation where Elizabeth got hit wasn't a fight, so its not representative of her actual power in a real fight. If you want to argue about it, then I guess Meliodas being slapped by Elizabeth means any average human can outspeed him in battle

The topic at hand is speed.Merlin incapacitating AM Mel is wholly irrelevant.

It was really just an example to prove a point.

If he stands completely stationary and refuses to use Fullcounter,sure.

Full-counter isn't a perfect defence, why does everyone act like it is?

 

[Master of the Sun]

Vivian vs Derocchio
Gilthunder vs Dahaaka
Dreyfus (part 1) vs Pump
Guila & Jericho vs Galla
SBK (without Bellion) vs Pleiades
Can't think of any HK that would be able to beat Atollah.

 

[Estarossa173]

Vivian vs Derocchio
Gilthunder vs Dahaaka
Dreyfus (part 1) vs Pump
Guila & Jericho vs Galla
SBK (without Bellion) vs Pleiades
Can't think of any HK that would be able to beat Atollah.

I’d give it to Derocchio
Hard to say. Maybe Gilthunder could win
Pump - mid to high difficulty
I’d give it to Galla.
Can go either way. But I’d lean a bit towards SBK.

 

[Master of the Sun]

Merlin & Ludo vs Hawk Mama
King & Diane vs Hawk Mama
Ban & Gowther vs Hawk Mama
Izraf vs Hendrickson & Zaratras
Izraf vs Pump
Izraf vs Atollah
Izraf vs Derocchio
Orlondi vs Pump
SBK (without Bellion) vs vampires of Edinburgh
Bellion vs Fraudrin
Bellion vs CO Galan
Bellion (buffed by Baruja) vs Fraudrin & CO Galan
Merlin vs Meliodas cooking

 

[Samael Morningstar]

Mael 4C(but in right mind) vs chandler

 

[Kay3795]

Vivian vs Derocchio
Gilthunder vs Dahaaka
Dreyfus (part 1) vs Pump
Guila & Jericho vs Galla
SBK (without Bellion) vs Pleiades
Can't think of any HK that would be able to beat Atollah.

As weak as this whole bunch turned out to be, non of these knights stand a chance against them.

 

[john ellis]

ban(current) vs the 10 commandements

who would win

 

[Samael Morningstar]

Ban easily

 

[Franz]

The actual Ban stomps.

 

[Samael Morningstar]

Immortal Ban will get fodderized and eaten by Mera.
Mortal God tier Ban can't kill them in presence of Grayroad.

He has no chance at all.

Kinda makes sense
Maybe Right

 

[john ellis]

yes he does, he knows how gray roads commandment works, and he knows if you kill a commandment they're commandment fizzles, so he just kills gray road, and his commandment does nothing, tbh his commandment is poorly designed. It prevents him killing others, but not others killing him.

 

[OtakuFreak]

Immortal Ban will get fodderized and eaten by Mera.
Mortal God tier Ban can't kill them in presence of Grayroad.

He has no chance at all.

lol no

just kill Grayroad first, her commandment does fuck all if you eliminate her first

 

[BurlapJack]

lol no

just kill Grayroad first, her commandment does fuck all if you eliminate her first

Based on what evidence?

 

[Shadowlord123]

They can't even hurt Ban, lol. The only chance they have is if Ban falls victim to one of the commandments (specially Grayroad's). If that doesn't happen, he demolishes.

 

[Samael Morningstar]

They can't even hurt Ban, lol. The only chance they have is if Ban falls victim to one of the commandments (specially Grayroad's). If that doesn't happen, he demolishes.

What about my question above

 

[Arjuna]

What about my question above

This isn't the right thread for it.

 

[OtakuFreak]

Based on what evidence?

To undo the effect of a commandment, you either die or kill the user who afflicted you.

As such, it stands to reason that if you were to one-shot Grayroad and immediately kill her, the commandment wouldn't activate at all.

 

[Samael Morningstar]

This isn't the right thread for it.

Now it's in the right thread

 

[BurlapJack]

To undo the effect of a commandment, you either die or kill the user who afflicted you.

As such, it stands to reason that if you were to one-shot Grayroad and immediately kill her, the commandment wouldn't activate at all.

Ban doesn't know that though, he wasn't present when merlin,grayroad or whomst-ever explaind the curse

Unless this is a "opponents have full knowledge" match, which no one said it was

 

[OtakuFreak]

Ban doesn't know that though, he wasn't present when merlin,grayroad or whomst-ever explaind the curse

Unless this is a "opponents have full knowledge" match, which no one said it was

We're assuming a hypothetical fight here and as such Ban will easily win.

Realistically, though Ban might have some difficulty but I'm pretty sure he'd eventually figure out the conditions of the pacifism commandment and counteract it.