Discussion NNT versus thread

[MrSchmitty7]

I mean... Monspiet would've soloed if Derriere hadn't fucked it up.

Monspiet could probably win a 1v

Derriere would get trashed

Estarossa would be trashed in a 1v2

Only thing is estarossa could take in his commandment of love if he got desperate. Monspeet doesn’t seem like one to do that

 

[Samael Morningstar]

Only thing is estarossa could take in his commandment of love if he got desperate. Monspeet doesn’t seem like one to do that

Take in???
How is that going to help him

 

[MrSchmitty7]

Take in???
How is that going to help him

When they’re absorbed they boost power. It could boost esta from like 60-70k

 

[AvatarReiko]

- It really depends on the time of the day. If it's Late Morning/Noon I'd say Mael wins. If it's Morning or Afternoon it could go either way, slightly going towards Mel and if it's night, Mael clearly loses.
- Emo Mel wins. He was able to clash with the DK multiple times and tank some of his attacks. These are far better feats than anything AM Mel showed IMO.



Mael wins both with little to no difficulty. We all saw the Sinner going up against Mael and we all know how it ended up. Chandler and Cusack are in all likelihood getting oneshotted.

There is a problem with this though. Cushack and Chandler were stated to be stronger than Mel and Zel. Sunshine Mael was forced into a retreat by a Holy War AM Mel

 

[OtakuFreak]

There is a problem with this though. Cushack and Chandler were stated to be stronger than Mel and Zel.

I'm pretty sure only Cusack was said to be stronger than Zeldris, there was nothing mentioned about Chandler & Meliodas.

Sunshine Mael was forced into a retreat by a Holy War AM Mel

Eeeeeh, ''forced'' is incorrect given how they were portrayed as equals through the ''ying yang'' clash of light & darkness and Meliodas wasn't even at his most powerful, so Mael being ''forced'' to retreat makes little sense.

 

[Shadowlord123]

There is a problem with this though. Cushack and Chandler were stated to be stronger than Mel and Zel. Sunshine Mael was forced into a retreat by a Holy War AM Mel

Yeah, that's right. And who stated that? Merlin, someone who had little to no participation in the Holy War and barely saw something as far as we know. Her statements regarding the DC are meant to be taken with a grain of salt IMO. If you want to go by statements, we have the DK himself (whose knowledge on the DC is absolute) stating that Prime Mel was the strongest demon besides him.

Let's say, however, that Merlin's statement of the masters being the strongests demons outside of the DK is true. That would mean each one of the masters can go toe to toe or even defeat Mael individually depending on the time of the day. If that's the case why The Sinner (who should be far stronger than the masters since it's a fusion of the two) got completely fodderized by an Afternoon Mael whose power should be decreasing?

See my point? No matter how you look at it. Be by feats or statements, Prime Mel is the strongest demon outside of the DK, since he was said to be comparable to Sun Mael and we even saw panels of them clashing equally forming a Ying-Yang symbol (proving that statement to be true).

 

[MrSchmitty7]

The thing about Merlin’s statement is that it isn’t wrong, but rather it’s just out dated information. Chandler and Cusack no doubt were the strongest demons before Mel, however as time went on Mel eventually just became stronger than them. Personally can’t say the same for Zeldris yet though.

 

[Samael Morningstar]

Well this was just being argued today so I just thought of bringing it up

One Escanor vs Goddess Elizabeth

Who wins

For me it's inconclusive both are strong one is a physical monster and other is a magical one

 

[sobreno]

The One Escanor one shot with a single Holy Sword Escanor of his hand.

He is far faster, far more durable and end her way worse than Derrierie's punch.

Also her magic wouldn't scratch The One Escanor.

 

[Shadowlord123]

The One Escanor should be able to get the W as of now. I don't have any idea with what difficulty, tho, since Nakaba's portrayal with her is super inconsistent. Sometimes I get the feeling she's incredibly OP (like in this last chapter) and sometimes I feel like she's incredibly useless and weak. I know she's supposed to be very strong in her Goddess Body, but I don't know exactly how much and how she fights exactly. Until more information and feats, The One Escanor takes this, IMO. He's a complete monster and one of the most impressive characters in this series when it comes to feats, as of now.

 

[Tristan]

One Escanor vs Goddess Elizabeth

Bloody Ellie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the One Escanor.

 

[OtakuFreak]

Elizabeth should take this with some difficulty.

Escanor only has a 60 second window where he can overpower Elizabeth directly, as we saw at every other interval he was weaker than 142k Meliodas, who's far weaker than 200k+ Elizabeth.

It can go either way, but Elizabeth's win condition is to survive for 60 seconds and then trash him after whilst Escanor HAS to kill her during those 60 seconds.

I could see Elizabeth shielding herself repeatedly or perhaps even doing a "tug of war" against Escanor with her ark, like how she did with Indura. Or perhaps she can even fly away and avoid him for 60 seconds.

If there was a tug of war, I'd say they would be pretty equal, or it would take Escanor a lot of time to overpower it.

Elizabeth wins 7/10 times IMO

 

[Seven777]

One Escanor, cause I still believe in his hype. Tbh I'd give him the win over every character in the series until he's actually forced to use up that minute.

 

[sobreno]

Honestly, I can't imagine the One Escanor losing on her, the image is literally impossible to picture lol.

It is an easy win for him.

 

[Crimson Ice]

I see everyone is smoking crack. The One destroys Liz. One clean hit and Liz is finished, she did hurt DK Zel but he was caught off guard by her, and his still regaining power.

 

[sobreno]

I see everyone is smoking crack. The One destroys Liz. One clean hit and Liz is finished, she did hurt DK Zel but he was caught off guard by her, and his still regaining power.

A mere rock can kill her, her durability is trash tier.

 

[OtakuFreak]

The only times Escanor used ''The One'' was when he was in an enclosed space, where his enemy was forced to engage him rather than potentially delay or evade him.

Assuming this is an open space, what's stopping Elizabeth from flying up into the sky and using her ark at Escanor whilst waiting for noon to be over and then finish him at 12:01+ where he's weaker than 142,000?

Escanor can't win this IMO.

Now if this was Mael, the result would be the other way around.

 

[Ger]

The only times Escanor used ''The One'' was when he was in an enclosed space, where his enemy was forced to engage him rather than potentially delay or evade him.

Assuming this is an open space, what's stopping Elizabeth from flying up into the sky and using her ark at Escanor whilst waiting for noon to be over and then finish him at 12:01+ where he's weaker than 142,000?

Escanor can't win this IMO.

Now if this was Mael, the result would be the other way around.

That's a matter of the situation. But either way if WE ARE going to have close spaced area. No way in hell should would be able to tank his attacks as the boulder the fell from the sky almost killed her

 

[OtakuFreak]

That's a matter of the situation. But either way if WE ARE going to have close spaced area. No way in hell should would be able to tank his attacks as the boulder the fell from the sky almost killed her

So a curse that defines fate to claim her life irregardless of her strength is comparable to a fight where she can actually fight back?

 

[sobreno]

The only times Escanor used ''The One'' was when he was in an enclosed space, where his enemy was forced to engage him rather than potentially delay or evade him.

Assuming this is an open space, what's stopping Elizabeth from flying up into the sky and using her ark at Escanor whilst waiting for noon to be over and then finish him at 12:01+ where he's weaker than 142,000?

Escanor can't win this IMO.

Now if this was Mael, the result would be the other way around.

Well, in this match, it is supposed that The One last as long as the other characters power.

That is a basic rule in Versus match.

Obviously that if she keeps her distance in the sky, and just bomb him with an avalanche of Ark. That is an excellent strategy if The One was limited to one minute but useless if it is forever.

The One Escanor just need to get near her and it is over for her as physically, he is like a Saitama on her lol.

Although, Ark wouldn't effect him as badly as a Demon, since he is Human here.