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[Theforsakensoul]

Possibly. His speciality is imitating humans and he hangs around with Grey Lord a lot who also can change shape. So maybe Fraudrin can mimic and impersonate creatures physically but never humans. That is why he only possesses them.

He could still impersonate them but humans have a moral compass and stuff like that and with his heart manipulation magic it would easier to use it to accomplish his objective. Actually shit, before his bio came out we were told his magic was heart manipulation but now we're told its full size so is this a mistranslation or does Fraudrin have two different abilities?

 

[Bigbootyjudy]

Im starting to belive it was not estarossa
In that dream she forgot about meliodas and the saw his poster and then imagined him ?

I've always assumed that that was not Estarossa but Elizabeth tapping into her reincarnations memories. What she saw was how Meliodas looked before he got cursed.

 

[oxtopus]

He was able to overpower both Dolor and Gloxinia, who have 54,000 and 50,000 respectively.

His stat couldn't be higher than that. With a strength of 46,200 he's still way stronger than dolor and gloxinia,so him tanking their attacks is no surprise,plus full counter magic is not supposed to be that much as seen with estarossa. Meliodas also has his darkness which seems to be the most powerful of all the tc's so him having 52000 seems just right.

 

[Escanorzoldyck]

I've always assumed that that was not Estarossa but Elizabeth tapping into her reincarnations memories. What she saw was how Meliodas looked before he got cursed.

Didnt like the idea at all

 

[SpectrumRay16]

Just thought i would add the back page of the fanbook, because i've noticed that Nakaba loves using Silver, Orange and Green on everyone's character design.

- Credit goes to Coffin-Of-Eternal-Darkness

Ps: I hope Estarossa's actual coloring is the Darker orangey black/gold clothes from this image (Not that it matters now that he is butt naked ):

 

[Escanorzoldyck]

Anyone here knows how escanor's so fast for someone whose +300kg

 

[SpectrumRay16]

Anyone here knows how escanor's so fast for someone whose +300kg

Um... he's Escanor???

To be honest, even during the night with a strength stat of 5 he was able to outrun and dodge the vampire king's attacks very well. Just because he weighs a crap ton doesn't mean he is slow. I mean, Diane was able to suddenly get behind Helebram with roughly 5 times that weight at leas- *is crushed by Diane*

 

[Gallon]

His stat couldn't be higher than that. With a strength of 46,200 he's still way stronger than dolor and gloxinia,so him tanking their attacks is no surprise,plus full counter magic is not supposed to be that much as seen with estarossa. Meliodas also has his darkness which seems to be the most powerful of all the tc's so him having 52000 seems just right.

Why couldn't it? Zeldris and Estarossa are at 60,000.
And again, Meliodas withstood Gloxinia's Basquias without a scratch and easily overpowered both Dolor and Glox in all aspects. Physical strength doesn't make you immune to everything.

Besides, if his darkness power increases, so should his magic.

 

[SpectrumRay16]

Why couldn't it? Zeldris and Estarossa are at 60,000.
And again, Meliodas withstood Gloxinia's Basquias without a scratch and easily overpowered both Dolor and Glox in all aspects. Physical strength doesn't make you immune to everything.

True, i mean Estarossa's strength is at 53K and considering how absurd that is in it's entirety, having Escanor punch him once with magic imbued in the punch forced him to his knees. Well, either way... there is no use in analyzing Dolor and Gloxinia vs Meliodas because although there are factors to argue why they are weak in that fight or seemingly useless against Mel, there are counter arguments as well.
Though, i must admit that power level wise Fairies and giants seem to all share similar stat distribution. The three brothers also seem to follow that trend.
And what surprises me more is that Fraudrin's power level is exactly 10 times Gowther's and his magic stat looks like it would be exactly the same should Gowther become a commandment again.

 

[Demonspeed]

Anyone here knows how escanor's so fast for someone whose +300kg

Why would there be a reason in a manga like that? He's not even the heaviest in the manga. Giant fighters are heavier yet fast.

 

[Gallon]

True, i mean Estarossa's strength is at 53K and considering how absurd that is in it's entirety, having Escanor punch him once with magic imbued in the punch forced him to his knees. Well, either way... there is no use in analyzing Dolor and Gloxinia vs Meliodas because although there are factors to argue why they are weak in that fight or seemingly useless against Mel, there are counter arguments as well.
Though, i must admit that power level wise Fairies and giants seem to all share similar stat distribution. The three brothers also seem to follow that trend.

They kept returning to their peak because of Gloxinia, though...
Yes, there is a chance that physical power alone was greater and the total PL was lower, but it just seems weird for Meliodas to be below two people whom he relatively easily overpowered.

 

[SpectrumRay16]

They kept returning to their peak because of Gloxinia, though...
Yes, there is a chance that physical power alone was greater and the total PL was lower, but it just seems weird for Meliodas to be below two people whom he relatively easily overpowered.

When we say back to peak, can we really confirm they were at there peak to begin with?
If they were using the competition to draw in power souls to them take them after they lost... did they do it for fun or because they weren't at full strength?
I'd imagine that magic wise they were both lacking which is bad for Glox, but, not as much for Dolor... though, that is probably why he used his magic the most. I had a theory that the reason the demons keep devouring souls is because they need to maintain their power, because there bodies are no longer used to holding in vast quantities of magic. So, none of the commandments are really at their peak for magical power as of 1 month ago. But, now they should be more able to use that power to it's fullest.

 

[Theforsakensoul]

And what surprises me more is that Fraudrin's power level is exactly 10 times Gowther's and his magic stat looks like it would be exactly the same should Gowther become a commandment again.

I was literally just thinking the same thing. Maybe once he's back to his old self he'll be in the 30K range but is that a reasonable amount or is he kind of in the weak side. Then again if his invasion is already this hax and he gets a boost from his ST and commandment power up then he needn't be higher than 30K. What do you think?

 

[Gallon]

When we say back to peak, can we really confirm they were at there peak to begin with?
If they were using the competition to draw in power souls to them take them after they lost... did they do it for fun or because they weren't at full strength?
I'd imagine that magic wise they were both lacking which is bad for Glox, but, not as much for Dolor... though, that is probably why he used his magic the most. I had a theory that the reason the demons keep devouring souls is because they need to maintain their power, because there bodies are no longer used to holding in vast quantities of magic. So, none of the commandments are really at their peak for magical power as of 1 month ago. But, now they should be more able to use that power to it's fullest.

Well, they aren't demons, so do they really need to eat souls?
They were close to full strength since they were spamming magic attacks.

 

[Yakkun]

There's more

 

[Demonspeed]

They should have been at full power. Galan was at 26K with 0 Magic. 27K with it restored and 40K when he uses it. If both had not eaten souls I don't see how they were expecting to rival Mel who crushed Galan before their very eyes. Dolor easily overpowered Matrona in terms of Magic with his feats, same for Gloxinia. If Dolor had 0 in Magic he was at 17500 with Glox at 3000.

 

[SpectrumRay16]

I was literally just thinking the same thing. Maybe once he's back to his old self he'll be in the 30K range but is that a reasonable amount or is he kind of in the weak side. Then again if his invasion is already this hax and he gets a boost from his ST and commandment power up then he needn't be higher than 30K. What do you think?

Hmmm... invasion is the most hax ability in terms of it's use, followed closely by Sunshine and what i assume Zeldris's god will do.
It's safe to say Gowther has remained the weakest commandment because his ability to modify memories, transmit plans, rewrite people's lives and even knock people out is considerably dangerous.
If he were to use a wide scale blackout it would likely be able to knock people out with 2-3K spirit whilst he is at that strength.
Though, we already know that he is capable of knocking out a weakened Escanor with a concentrated version of it right now.
I think 31K for Gowther sounds good, but, that was also before the commandments had their PLs revealed. It's safe to assume Meliodas and Escanor exceed 60K respectively. Gowther hitting 31K would likely force him to fight Grey Lord because Gowther would not kill Grey lord. It would be great if his commandment gave those that killed in front of him heart attacks if they had murderous intent and Gowther pointed out he didn't have a heart XD

But, yeah... i use to think getting 10 times stronger was enough for the sins, but, now Diane, King, Ban and Merlin need to train a lot more to make up for the fact that Escanor and Ban took out the weakest 2 commandments by far and now the rest of them are around 50K.
I expect King to reach 45K, Diane around 40K, Ban around 32K (Without Hunter Fest, with ST), Merlin around 49K. Meliodas probably 65K or 70K.
Escanor = Dunno. May as well say 75K peak to be safe, but, 100K is possible for this guy.

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Well, they aren't demons, so do they really need to eat souls?
They were close to full strength since they were spamming magic attacks.

I would say since they've ingested demon blood or been turned into demons somewhat the answer is yes.
But, it looks to me like they all needed to eat souls to gather up energy... unless these two having connections to nature sped that up.

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There's more

Zaratras's actual magic is called Great Thunder?
And he has purge to top it off with a power level of 3060?
So he was just weaker than Gowther Pl wise XD

 

[Yakkun]

LMAO the king's greatest embarrassing moment is literally shitting his pants when seeing Escanor

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Vivian's magic is called SUCK

TOPKEK

 

[SpectrumRay16]

LMAO the king's greatest embarrassing moment is literally shitting his pants when seeing Escanor

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Vivian's magic is calles SUCK

TOPKEK

HAHAHAHAHA!!!! I can just imagine them meeting at night and suddenly Dawn rolls over

Escanor: Pleased to me you, my name is Escanor... *buffs up*
Batra: *Gently poos himself*

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PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTT

Slader's hobby is "Dates" and his weak point in his Butt XD

 

[Bigbootyjudy]

Slader: Weak Point: His butt

I spit out my coffee, Nakaba pls