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[MrSchmitty7]

Yeah it obviously a troll and nakaba probably said that so his power level could fit the plot and so he could literally face any opponent because we don't know what the true extent of his power is and nakaba doesn't want us to know so we Don't call bullshit if he beats a being of immense power. Um measurable aka plot device/trolling.

--- Double Post Merged, Aug 18, 2016, Original Post Date: Aug 18, 2016 ---

If we take ummeasurable literally then don't get your hopes up for the demon king or 4 great angels or whoever controls the goddess clan because if their still bound by Pl and his is literally unmmeasurable then there won't be a plot and conflict in the series because escanor will just beat them at noon. So I would no take that literally.

Nakaba has already sidelined Escanor 3 times out of his 4 appearances. Just cuz he's OP doesn't mean Nakaba has to use him. In all likelihood I doubt we'll see noon Escanor anytime soon.

 

[Talenel]

Oh my God I didnt know this was a thing! So much information! I am adding and commenting on everyyyyything I like.

Zeldris
Magic: God (written as “demon king”)
Birthplace: Demon Realm
Special ability: Execution
Hobbies: Dragon hunting
Daily Routine: Goddess Slaying
Favorite food: Dragon meat
Dream/Hope: Perfect Victory
Charmpoint: Nothing
Power Level: 61000
Magic: 10000 Strength: 47200 Spirit: 3800

Now this little badass....Wow. Special ability is execution? He enjoys hunting and eating dragons and Goddess Slaying is a part of his daily routine? He is confirmed as the most powerful Commandment (even more than Estarossa) and his magic power is called God? Cant wait to see my man in action. Still love his design.

Estarossa
Power Level: 60000
Magic: 3000 Strength: 53000 Spirit: 4000

This Strength is outrageous. His new orange and silver color schemem is even more ridiculous than his brown and gold suit. Ugh.

Galand
Age: 991 (before the seal)

Galan was waayyyy older than I expected him to be. Demons usually live around 1000 years right? Galan was elderly as hell.

Dolor
Commandment: Patience
Magic: Ground
Dream/Hope: Overthrowing the demon king
Charmpoint: Magic eye
Power Level: 54000
Magic: 14000 Strength: 36500 Spirit: 3500

Is "Ground" supposed to be different from "Creation?" And more importantly, he wants to overthrow the Demon King? Why on earth would this be revealed in a fanbook and not the manga?
Very interested in his commandment Patience.

Gloxinia
Commandment: Repose
Magic: Disaster
Daily Routine: Praying
Charmpoint: Wings
Power Level: 50000
Magic: 47000 Strength: 0 Spirit: 3000

Yes those Wings are pretty amazing. I guess all fairies have poor physical strength then. Makes me feel less bad for King who lost to a cat. And they both have the same power? Neat. Interested in seeing how his commandment will work.
Who would Gloxinia be praying to though?

Monspeet
Commandment: Reticence
Magic: Trick Star
Power Level: 53000
Magic: 34000 Strength: 16000 Spirit: 3000

Okay, I straight up had to google Reticence. No idea how thats going to work. I guess his power will work as a magic counterpart to Derierre's just as Meliodas has the magical counterpart to Estarossa's full counter? His magic level is extremely high though.

Derieri
Age: 377 (before the seal)
Commandment: Purity
Magic: Combo Star
Power Level: 52000
Magic: 1500 Strength: 48000 Spirit: 2500

I guess 50,000 is middle of the road-ish for the commandments? Damn, that strength Stat though. Glad she's not much older than Monspiet.

Grayroad
Special ability: Command ones of hid kind (grey demons)
Power Level: 39000
Magic: 26500 Strength: 10000 Spirit: 2500

....He's a Gray Demon? This doesnt actually answer any questions tbh because he looks like a black mass of tentacles and only shares the mask in common with Gray Demons. >.>

Fraudrin
Magic: Full Size
Power Level: 31000
Magic: 13000 Strength: 15000 Spirit: 3000

This asshole is surprisingly powerful. Unsurprisingly, he likes being able to play human. Full Size? Sounds interesting.

Meliodas
Favorite animal: Elizabeth
Power Level: 32500 (at the end of volume 22)
Magic: 2700 Strength: 27700 Spirit: 2100

Ha! I lol'd at Elizabeth being his favorite animal. Wonder how much the black mark increases his physical ability. It would still be lower than Deri's surely.

Elizabeth
Weak Point: Her butt

how does that work though?

Ban
What he likes about himself: Nothing really ♪

Ha!

Gowther
What he likes about himself: His cuteness
Dream/Hope: Being a pretty attraction girl for the bar

What? I didnt know Gowther recognized himself as cute. And does he identify as a girl?

Merlin
Birthplace: Beliaruin
Regrets: Being born
The most embarrassing thing in her life: The one time when she confessed her
love
Favorite animal: Hundun’s mother (?? this is the best guess I have, 混沌
means confusion or chaos but also Hundun, which is a chinese legendary faceless creature)

Tease, tease, tease. All things Im verrryyyy interested in but probably wont see until we get to the Goddess arc. Looks like Nakaba has her backstory all fleshed out though. Love that Merlin actually confessed to someone...I can't image her doing such a thing.

Escanor
Power Level: Unmeasurable

DAMN.

Gilthunder
Special ability: Monster knowledge
Hobbies: Thinking up monsters

Interesting. Gilthunder is kind of a nerd.

Zaratras
Magic: Great Thunder
Hobbies: Adventuring

Boring Magic. I wonder if he collected the sacred treasures on his various adventures though?

Griamore
Weak Point: Not good with words
Dream/Hope: …with Lady Veronica…

Ha! I love how self demonstrating this is.

Jericho
Special ability: Whistling

Oh Jericho.

Dreyfus
Regrets: Fighting with Anna
Magic: 1000 Strength: 1000 Spirit: 1000

Dreyfus. ;(
Awesome stats though Sir.

Bartra
The most embarrassing thing in his life: Shitting his pants after seeing Escanor

Bartra, no. This should never have been revealed to anyone.

Slader
Special ability: Make-up!

Ha!

Weak Point: His butt

Again, how?

Vivian
Special ability: Stalking
Hobbies: Observation

Ha!!

Denzel
What he wants the most right now: A chance to try out his “power”

Why though? Did he have a death wish?

Deathpierce
Birthplace: Edinburgh
Dream/Hope: Restoring Edinburgh
Regrets: Fleeing from Edinburgh
The most embarrassing thing in his life: That he got a big scar on his back from a vampire when he fled
What he wants the most right now: A house for Invisible

Oh wow. That's actually really interesting. Cute that he wants a house for the Fairy.

Waillo
What he wants the most right now: More height

Arden
The most embarrassing thing in his life: When he was refused by 10 girls in one day
What he wants the most right now: More height

Ha!!!

Deldry
Age: 23
Weak Point: Loud kids
Dream/Hope: Marrying a man she loves
Regrets: That she loves Arden

Awww, she has a crush on Arden? Thats adorable. She's older than I expected though. Im right there with her on that weak point though.

 

[LivewireToriko]

Yeah it obviously a troll and nakaba probably said that so his power level could fit the plot and so he could literally face any opponent because we don't know what the true extent of his power is and nakaba doesn't want us to know so we Don't call bullshit if he beats a being of immense power. Um measurable aka plot device/trolling.

--- Double Post Merged, Aug 18, 2016, Original Post Date: Aug 18, 2016 ---

If we take ummeasurable literally then don't get your hopes up for the demon king or 4 great angels or whoever controls the goddess clan because if their still bound by Pl and his is literally unmmeasurable then there won't be a plot and conflict in the series because escanor will just beat them at noon. So I would no take that literally.

That's a good way to look at it.

Escanor Power Level : Unmeasurable

Nakaba code for :

He's however strong I need him to be to oneshot whoever he's fighting at the moment.

 

[Escanorzoldyck]

I hope gawain will make an apparence shit im hyped for someone who was neveer mentioned (probably dont existe)

 

[MrSchmitty7]

Hey on the bright side though, by making Escanor OP we now have something that most mangas don't have, and that is an unanswerable ending. If Escanor was normal tier the plot would go: Meliodas saves the day with help. Now because of Escanor we don't know if Meliodas will kill the Demon King, or If Escanor will even be allowed to be there. It'll at least keep the theories going till the end.

 

[nuur mohamed]

Nakaba has already sidelined Escanor 3 times out of his 4 appearances. Just cuz he's OP doesn't mean Nakaba has to use him. In all likelihood I doubt we'll see noon Escanor anytime soon.

Yeah true he doesn't have to use him all the time and I would like for that to happen and I do agree that we won't be seeing noon escanor anytime soon.

That's a good way to look at it.

Escanor Power Level : Unmeasurable

Nakaba code for :

He's however strong I need him to be to oneshot whoever he's fighting at the moment.

Yeah that's why he made it ummeasurable so that we wouldn't call bullshit if he beats a powerful being stronger that him and we knew he was weaker by his power level and so his power could fit the situation he is in and could make him win against any opponent he is facing.

Nakaba ' s code: shhh don't tell anyone "plot device/trolling/PLOT DEVICE" but that will be our little secret (JK)

 

[MrSchmitty7]

Yeah true he doesn't have to use him all the time and I would like for that to happen and I do agree that we won't be seeing noon escanor anytime soon.

Yeah that's why he made it ummeasurable so that we wouldn't call bullshit if he beats a powerful being stronger that him and we knew he was weaker by his power level and so his power could fit the situation he is in and could make him win against any opponent he is facing.

Nakaba ' s code: shhh don't tell anyone "plot device/trolling/PLOT DEVICE" but that will be our little secret (JK)

Huzzah for Plot Devices!!!!!! Nakaba 2016

 

[kkck]

Nope.

Escanor's magic power didn't surpass estarossa's until 11:00-11:30.

Which means he's slightly higher than 3k.

I don't think we ever saw a single situation where estarosas magic surpassed or even matched escanors. If anything escanors magic was more than estaroda could chew. Even when edtarosa covered sunshine in darkness all escanor had to do was wave the speck of darkness away. Regardless of whether the darkness was physical or magical, escanor outclassed it.

 

[LivewireToriko]

I see why zeldris got no hype though.

The difference in their power when all stats are accounted for is negligible.

If you can oneshot his brother whose at 60k, you can oneshot him whose at 61k.

His magic ability has more potential though.

"God"(written as demon king)

I assume some sort of ability that allows him to manifest his father or at least some of his power through himself for a power up?

Can't think of what else it could be.

Full Power Mel can't be too much stronger than his brothers. Should be 70k at the max unless nakaba goes full dbz on us.

I mean even dolor and monspiet aren't that much weaker than estarossa and zeldris. They're at 54k and 53k respectively. Not even a 10k gap.

So a 9k gap between him and his brothers at max is enough.

 

[Sylphe]

So Escanor is as strong as some mutated grey demons ! Interesting ! It was worth the wait to know that ! Nakaba is such a troll ! XDDDD

I find it funny that Galan is basically a grandpa in his deathbed !LOL ( even though that for a dying geezer he still kickass !) And as expected he is the weakest commandment in term of PL, but perhaps it is due to his advanced age which had severly weakened him !

In the other hand i didn't expect Dolor and Gloxinia to be that strong ! ( they both have 50K worth of PL )

Zeldris having a slightly higher PL than Estarossa was also a surprise for me but they both outclass each other in one stat ( Estarossa in strength and Zeldris in magic) so i think that they play in the same ground and no one is really stronger than the other unless Zeldis magic ablity "God" is broken or something ! ( as the name imply)

The most irking thing is that we still don't know Merlin's age and race and the information we got gave us no clue, so i guess that that all there is to konw about Merlin will only be revealed in the manga !

 

[ShadowHeart]

So Arthur cat Cath’s has a power level of 10010. Wonder how power it will become when Arthur starts getting stronger.

 

[LivewireToriko]

So Arthur cat Cath’s has a power level of 10010. Wonder how power it will become when Arthur starts getting stronger.

Jesus.

The sins (other than Mel and Escanor) are such fodder.

Arthur's pet cat is three times stronger than them?

-.-

 

[SpectrumRay16]

So Arthur cat Cath’s has a power level of 10010. Wonder how power it will become when Arthur starts getting stronger.

Well, Nanashi said the Cat's existence would keep him safe... so as long as he does not fight a commandments he will be fine because if he gets into a pinch the cat can fodderize any any other opponent.

 

[Demonspeed]

I don't think we ever saw a single situation where estarosas magic surpassed or even matched escanors. If anything escanors magic was more than estaroda could chew. Even when edtarosa covered sunshine in darkness all escanor had to do was wave the speck of darkness away. Regardless of whether the darkness was physical or magical, escanor outclassed it.

He outclassed it because he grows stronger every seconds. Estarossa said it himself, if Escanor's Magic had been more powerful Blackout would have failed.

So Escanor is as strong as some mutated grey demons ! Interesting ! It was worth the wait to know that ! Nakaba is such a troll ! XDDDD

I find it funny that Galan is basically a grandpa in his deathbed !LOL ( even though that for a dying geezer he still kickass !) And as expected he is the weakest commandment in term of PL, but perhaps it is due to his advanced age which had severly weakened him !

In the other hand i didn't expect Dolor and Gloxinia to be that strong ! ( they both have 50K worth of PL )

Zeldris having a slightly higher PL than Estarossa was also a surprise for me but they both outclass each other in one stat ( Estarossa in strength and Zeldris in magic) so i think that they play in the same ground and no one is really stronger than the other unless Zeldis magic ablity "God" is broken or something ! ( as the name imply)

The most irking thing is that we still don't know Merlin's age and race and the information we got gave us no clue, so i guess that that all there is to konw about Merlin will only be revealed in the manga !

Galan is not the weakest, Fraudrin is, he even said it himself, he joined the TC because Gowther disappeared and is not comparable to the others. When Galan uses Critical Over he is at 40K, a little above Gray Lord(I think Gray Lord is stronger though). It's implied that the latter is the Gray Demon with the unmeasurable PL too.

So Arthur cat Cath’s has a power level of 10010. Wonder how power it will become when Arthur starts getting stronger.

What? Where did you read that?

 

[Sylphe]

So Arthur cat Cath’s has a power level of 10010. Wonder how power it will become when Arthur starts getting stronger.

Where did you see that ? Did COED translate another page of the fanbook with PLs ? Beacuse all i found in this thread is these three pages:

And there is no mention of Cath !

@Demonspeed
Fraudrin didn't say he's the weakest, he said that he's a substitute for the REAL commandment, namely Gowther ! That desn't necessarily mean he is the weakest among the commandments ! Also, when i said Galan is the weakest! i did specify "IN TERM OF PL" ( in other words i didn't include the innate ablities), so i was just referring to Galan without his Critical Over !

 

[SpectrumRay16]

We got more and Cath is in it!

 

[Demonspeed]

Where did you see that ? Did COED translate another page of the fanbook with PLs ? Beacuse all i found in this thread is these three pages:

And there is no mention of Cath !

@Demonspeed
Fraudrin didn't say he's the weakest, he said that he's a subsitute for the REAL commandment, namely Gowther ! Tahat desn't necessarily mean he is the weakest ! Also, when i said Galan is the weakest! i did specify "IN TERM OF PL" ( in other words i didn't include the innate ablities), so i was just refrerring to Galan without his Crtitical Over !

When he was talking he said he's just a replacement and doesn't compare to the other Commandments then he compared himself directly to Gowther.

Galan is the weakest seen like that but since Critical Over is just a strength boost is 27K PL is not really important unless he is fighting someone he can beat easily.

 

[SpectrumRay16]

Okay, so according to the power levels of the characters we just got recently...
- Helebram is pretty weak
- Matrona was compared to a commandment in terms of power... the fact that she only has 7600 is not that impressive!
- Arthur... WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Arthur has 40K are your flipping serious???
I mean, i get it's mostly in magic... but what in the actual hell!!!!

 

[MrSchmitty7]

Okay, so according to the power levels of the characters we just got recently...
- Helebram is pretty weak
- Matrona was compared to a commandment in terms of power... the fact that she only has 7600 is not that impressive!
- Arthur... WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Arthur is the biggest asspull this series ever had. 40K?!?!?!

 

[Demonspeed]

Woah Arthur at 40K? And that's without Cath. Elaine is also much stronger than I thought.