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[SpectrumRay16]

Arthur is the biggest asspull this series ever had. 40K?!?!?!

Well, to be fair since he doesn't know his magic/use his magic... he only has what 2400 as a power level right now?
I'm honestly really surprised at how weak Matrona is... i expected her to be in the 20K range after talking such a big game and being compared to a commandment. I wonder if she's gotten weaker because of the incident 15 years ago... or whether or not she was just really weak to begin with?

 

[Demonspeed]

Arthur is the biggest asspull this series ever had. 40K?!?!?!

He will be the main in Nakaba's next series and it's always been said that he is a genius with lot of potential. Nakaba said he could surpass all the Sins and Bartra + Merlin saw something in him.

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Well, to be fair since he doesn't know his magic/use his magic... he only has what 2400 as a power level right now?
I'm honestly really surprised at how weak Matrona is... i expected her to be in the 20K range after talking such a big game and being compared to a commandment. I wonder if she's gotten weaker because of the incident 15 years ago... or whether or not she was just really weak to begin with?

Well, they were weakened back then.

 

[SpectrumRay16]

He will be the main in Nakaba's next series and it's always been said that he is a genius with lot of potential. Nakaba said he could surpass all the Sins and Bartra + Merlin saw something in him.

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Well, they were weakened back then.

True, but, i would have expected her to be compared to Galan, considering MErlin said it and she knew Galan's strength.

 

[Sylphe]

When he was talking he said he's just a replacement and doesn't compare to the other Commandments then he compared himself directly to Gowther.
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This is what is said in MS version : http://mangafox.me/manga/nanatsu_no_taizai/v19/c153/23.html
All he said is that he's a replacement for the real commandment, there is no real comparison in power between him and the other Commandments, though, i agree that it is implied that the real commadments are much more of a threat than him !
Still he was choosen by the DK to replace Gowther, so his worth is indisputable and his statements can be seen as mere humility or perhaps he said what he said just to break Denzel and Death Pierce hopes since they seemed so full of themselves for capturing him !

As for Arthur's PL, i share your disbelief ! 40K dafuq?!!!
If he was that strong how come the Sins, Hendrickson & co weren't more startled and shocked when he came to Liones in the Elizabeth rescue arc ?

 

[SpectrumRay16]

This is what is said in MS version : http://mangafox.me/manga/nanatsu_no_taizai/v19/c153/23.html
All he said is that he's a replacement for the real commandment, there is no real comparison in power between him and the other Commandments, though, i agree that it is implied that the real commadments are much more of a threat than him !
Still he was choosen by the DK to replace Gowther, so his worth is indisputable and his statements can be seen as mere humility or perhaps he said what he said just to break Denzel and Death Pierce hopes since they seemed so full of themselves for capturing him !

As for Arthur's PL, i share your disbelief ! 40K dafuq?!!!
If he was that strong how come the Sins, Hendrickson & co weren't more startled and shocked when he came to Liones in the Elizabeth rescue arc ?

Because Arthur's magical power is unknown to him and he doesn't know how to use it???

 

[Sylphe]

Because Arthur's magical power is unknown to him and he doesn't know how to use it???

Even so, such tremendous magic power can still be felt by others no ?! or was it stated that if you don't know how to use your magic power then no one can feel it ?
If i recall correctly the Sins felt that a great magic power was approching when Arthur came to Liones and i find it terribly unlikley and unintuitive that magic power of that magnitude coudn't be felt correctly just because Arthur hadn't unlocked his ability !

 

[Onyx Darkmatter]

Matrona's PL is still impressive if we were to look into the current world's standards. Granted, it could've been up around 10k, but it's not that big of a deal (and the whole thing about Galan was more of a surprise attack instead of a head-on conflict.

Meanwhile, Arthur and even Cath are more powerful than the Sins (excluding Escanor).

 

[Demonspeed]

Cath is 16, same age as Arthur. I guess it means he's always been with him or something.

Even so, such tremendous magic power can still be felt by others no ?! or was it stated that if you don't know how to use your magic power then no one can feel it ?
If i recall correctly the Sins felt that a great magic power was approching when Arthur came to Liones and i find it terribly unlikley and unintuitive that magic power of that magnitude coudn't be felt correctly just because Arthur hadn't unlocked his ability !

They all felt his potential in the first arc when he came at Liones and I think he only became that strong after the training with the Druids.

As for Fraudrin, he said he's not a real Commandment, just an understudy, so doesn't it mean that he considers himself inferior to the chosen ones?

 

[kkck]

He outclassed it because he grows stronger every seconds. Estarossa said it himself, if Escanor's Magic had been more powerful Blackout would have failed.

Galan is not the weakest, Fraudrin is, he even said it himself, he joined the TC because Gowther disappeared and is not comparable to the others. When Galan uses Critical Over he is at 40K, a little above Gray Lord(I think Gray Lord is stronger though). It's implied that the latter is the Gray Demon with the unmeasurable PL too.

What? Where did you read that?

What difference does growing every second make? And blackout did fail. I think the key part here is that escanor referred to it as a speck of darkness. So far escanor has neither lied nor exaggerated his awesomeness, that is why he could stand in front of galan without being affected by his commandment in spite saying things which would normally seem grossly exaggerated and he couldn't bring himself to feel anger or hatred against estarosa. If escanor called it a speck of darkness we should assume it was literally a speck of darkness. In context it makes no sense whatsoever that escanor's magic would be within the 3000 range, it wouldn't make sense for a power like sunshine to be powered by so little magic. Escanor's magic is likely to be as insane as his strength. As we have seen, the time of the day is not that much of a constraint for escanor considering he can power up not only by the time of the day but by merely exerting himself. He clearly grew dramatically stronger precisely when he wanted to when fighting estarosa, that is way too convenient.

I agree in that galan is stronger than fraudrin. Though galan does seem to need his overdrive for that. Based on what we saw greylord does not have much for offensive capacity though. His curse as the databook says is no fighting.... And his commandment is pacifism. My guess is that if it comes to an actual fight galan would have greylord beat but in turn greylord perhaps has a rather unusual approach to combat. With pacifism and no fighting it kinda seems like fighting him would trigger a number of abilities.....

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Arthur having 40k is insane.... I guess he is somewhat like elizabeth and has some great dormant magic power waiting to arise. This means that the second arthur's magic awakens he will be a huge asset. Right now he seems to be focusing on his swordsmanship even though physical fighting is his weakest point.

As for matrona.... well, 7600 is much lower than I thought she would have. I guess the reason she was able to more or less hold her ground is that neither moonspiet or galan had their magic. Moonspiet without his magic is barely at 19000 and galan was caught of guard by matrona's magic at first. Basically she pulled it off because the commandments were unprepared and at their weakest....

 

[Gallon]

Meliodas Pl could not be around 60k. I'm just being logical. Zeldris seemed to be physically stronger than Meliodas a bit, so Meliodas strength stat had to be less than 50k and is magic isn't supposed to be high if we take estarossa stats,which is a reflection of mel's into consideration.

Meliodas withstanding basquias beam doesn't necessarily have to with his Pl. It just shows how durable he is. Look at gloxinia for example. He has 0 strength but was able to survive several hits from meliodas.

Plus,the darkness power very likely doesn't have to do with the magic stat. If it did then estarossa being able to block out escanor's mini sun makes would maker zero sense. If anything i'd say the darkness strength reflects on the the total power a demon possesses

How was he physically stronger? Fraudrin confirmed Meliodas was tired after his fight with Dolor and Gloxinia, and yet Meliodas managed to retrieve his lost arm and almost landed two clean hits on Zeldris.

Err, that's what I'm saying. I said "physical strength doesn't make you immune to everything," implying it was not just his physical strength which outshone Dolor and Glox.

Well, we don't know what Escanor's magic PL was at that point, so we can't tell. And since we vaguely know that Meliodas has among the most powerful darkness powers, that doesn't really make sense if he has 52K, if you're linking it to the total power level. If that was the case, Estarossa and Zeldris should've had darkness far above Meliodas' level, which they seemingly don't.
And as for darkness, I generally mean the one which Mel used to destroy Danafor.

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Wow, Arthur's magic should be very powerful. His whole PL is basically magic, which he hasn't awakened yet. lol

 

[ShadowHeart]

Wow Gerheade is 4300 years old that's crazy how has she lived for that long? Man so Jenna and Zaneli are 1800 years old surely goddess must be involved for humans to live that long. So there's is a dragon god hopefully we meet it unless Zeldris or Estarossa killed it. Arthur power level is 40K crazy all he needs to do is unlock his magic ability and he be Commandment level like that. Interesting that it's exactly 40K like Galan maybe he will come back and him and Artur will fight each other.

 

[SpectrumRay16]

Wow Gerheade is 4300 years old that's crazy how has she lived for that long? Man so Jenna and Zaneli are 1800 years old surely goddess must be involved for humans to live that long. So there's is a dragon god hopefully we meet it unless Zeldris or Estarossa killed it. Arthur power level is 40K crazy all he needs to do is unlock his magic ability and he be Commandment level like that. Interesting that it's exactly 40K like Galan maybe he will come back and him and Artur will fight each other.

I'm gonna go with she is connected to the sacred tree because she is its guardian and is probably somehow related to gloxinia/ a past lover!

 

[Theforsakensoul]

Is there any more stuff coming out for the fan book?

 

[SpectrumRay16]

Is there any more stuff coming out for the fan book?

The boar har's menu is out!
That's about it for now though!

 

[Yakkun]

Wow Gerheade is 4300 years old that's crazy how has she lived for that long? Man so Jenna and Zaneli are 1800 years old surely goddess must be involved for humans to live that long. So there's is a dragon god hopefully we meet it unless Zeldris or Estarossa killed it. Arthur power level is 40K crazy all he needs to do is unlock his magic ability and he be Commandment level like that. Interesting that it's exactly 40K like Galan maybe he will come back and him and Artur will fight each other.

My take on Gerharde is that she was either Gloxinias sister or his queen and lover. She would have been 1300 during the war and I bet when Gloxinia converted, she sort of became victim of a Commandment's decree and similar to Mel is cursed to live on. That's how she survived the entire timespan of 3000 more years.

 

[Theforsakensoul]

The boar har's menu is out!
That's about it for now though!

Yes I saw that as well but is there a specified length to this book cuz all this info can be hard to keep track of.

 

[SpectrumRay16]

Yes I saw that as well but is there a specified length to this book cuz all this info can be hard to keep track of.

For the most part, i think it consists of pictures as well as details pertaining to the characters!
Other things would include more fan questions Nakaba has not responded to as of yet and probably a couple of games/maybe a side chapter for the series.
Overall i don't think the fanbook will exceed 150 pages and in retrospect it will probably just exceed over 80.

 

[ShadowHeart]

Strange I really thought Arthur would respect Merlin the most.

 

[Bigbootyjudy]

Wow Gerheade is 4300 years old that's crazy how has she lived for that long? Man so Jenna and Zaneli are 1800 years old surely goddess must be involved for humans to live that long. So there's is a dragon god hopefully we meet it unless Zeldris or Estarossa killed it. Arthur power level is 40K crazy all he needs to do is unlock his magic ability and he be Commandment level like that. Interesting that it's exactly 40K like Galan maybe he will come back and him and Artur will fight each other.

As soon as it was stated that Zeldris and Estarossa share a hobby of dragon hunting, I expect to see a demon brothers dragon hunting gaiden. And information about dragons as a race. I don't just expect to see a gaiden, but I crave it.

 

[SpectrumRay16]

As soon as it was stated that Zeldris and Estarossa share a hobby of dragon hunting, I expect to see a demon brothers dragon hunting gaiden. And information about dragons as a race. I don't just expect to see a gaiden, but I crave it.

It would be funny if the dragon god still exists and someone ends up seeking it's help to gain more power... perhaps Hawk can?
But, to be fair... it's likely going to come into the plot in arc 3.
As for the gaiden, i don't even need the gaiden for the... just a chapter in the past where we get to see them doing it!