Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1196 Spoiler Discussion

[Rein Avara]

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[armycat23]

The moment Kuma saw Sanji prepared to kill himself to subs Zoro, Kuma already knew Sanji issue and Kamabaka is the best place for Sanji, the guru guru boy.

That doesn't make sense to me bc Zorro was willing to make the exact same sacrifice BEFORE Sanji did.

You can make an argument just as legitimate, if not more so, that Kuma sent Sanji to Kamabaka bc he has a similar fighting style to Iva and many other citizens there.

This would be in-vein of why Kuma sent everybody else where they got sent to.....to places that were likely to help them fight according to their style.

I think you're "reaching" too hard.

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Sanjis power ups were kinda lame not gonna lie. A hidden genetic trait which activated at the right time and a mental barrier which kept his potential at bay.

Luffy's gear 2,3, and 4 are much more of a butt-pull at the right time than sanji's. Specifically gear 2, luffy saw a certain type of move by his enemies and instantly adapted it into his own without any practice or training on scene in the middle of a battle.....and did it perfectly and knew what the results would be before he even tried it. .

 

[AmyRose]

Spoilers confirm I'm correct - it's his self worth - not that he's coming out as Okama...

Why would he even be okama? Back then he was just manipulated to THINK he's supposed to be okama. He snaped out of it immedietly after learning about Luffys tragedy which clearly meant being okama isn't natural for him. Some people really want him to be confirmed as gay or something. Don't get me wrong, queer people are fine but but Sanji clearly wasn't one of them at any point. But yeah, Sanji lack confidence and self worth which makes him hold back because somewhere on the back of his mind there's a thought that he deserve to suffer for some reason. And I (well, probably all of us) blame for this Judge and his hell spawns of sons. So since they all survived and are even free to roam around they better be useful for something by the end of the story. And well, since his probably very ridiculous looking fusion "fell apart" and Sanji is firing up his cigaret I can tell that Killingham is a goner. Aaaaand it seems like Imu really may have to back off because he will lose two Knights in a row/at the same time. Good, I want him gone.

 

[chess4]

Its just so disappointing that the other strawhats(outside of zoro and Sanji) get little focus. I mean if all if the Strawhts jumped Luffy, they are still losing.

Chopper, brook, and usopp are literally the same strength as the timeskip

 

[AmyRose]

That doesn't make sense to me bc Zorro was willing to make the exact same sacrifice BEFORE Sanji did.

No, no, no Zoro didn't wanted to die. Sure, he was ready to if it turns out he's not strong enough to survive Luffys damage but he didn't planed to die. Sanji on other hand basicaly wanted to "surrender his life" because he felt like that's what he's good for. Kuma deffinetly noticed this and that's why he sended Zoro to Mihawk and Sanji to Kamabaka Queendom. Because since "okama way" seem to be more about self acceptance and self love than just being trans then who else is better to teach someone about self worth.