One Piece Mega Convo Thread, the 1st Chapter

[project2501]

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actually i was berserk reader, and i must admit it' s really sad that miura has given up on regulary releasing new chapters. no matter what anyone sais, if i have to wait half a year for a 20 page chapter it' sno fun readin' (waiting for) it, even if it' s about such a geat manga like berserk.

however there was one thing that i would like to say to one piece: what i found interesting is the developement of the bounties. do you guys remember that corcodile had "only" 80 mio beli, but was a shitchibukai. and now in the new ark we see a lot of guys that have much higher bounties but not that reputation. retrosectivly it just seems that "wani" was not that powerful at all, which is not true. so what du guys think about that?

 

[Imitorar]

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I think that realistically speaking, Oda had originally marked 100 million as the line, the nearly insurmountable line that divided Yonko from other pirates. But I'm not even too sure of that anymore. In-universe, I would say that Crocodile was asked by the World Government to become a Shichibukai before his bounty got too high. Otherwise, he'd probably be in the mid-200 millions. And before anybody brings up the SBS that says his bounty would have doubled if the World Government had known about Baroque Works and Crocodile had still had an active bounty, that's just for Baroque Works. If he had continued as a pirate, I think his bounty would have been at least 225 million. The World Government saw his potential and his bounty was frozen before he had time to amount to much.

 

[camil222]

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its true. i think his bounty wouldve been around 300 million maybe not as much but close. crocodile was incredibly strong. The same thing happened with blackbeard. They see that hes a threat to the world goverment and a great allie to fight the other pirates so they decided to make him a shichibukai even without a bounty.

 

[Fox666]

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I believe Crocodile must had done something different that doesn't makes him a big threat for government, but yet cause fear in another pirates.
Anyway, it's quite strange when Crocodile compared his bounty with Luffy (the chapters if I am not wrong is in fact called "81 millions vs 30 millions".

 

[weixiaobao]

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I believe Crocodile must had done something different that doesn't makes him a big threat for government, but yet cause fear in another pirates.

hmm.. isn't this obvious... ..

anyway.. maybe WG could ask some of the new supernova to joined them and create another group similar to the shikibukai.. to counter out white beard joining up with red hair..

 

[Imitorar]

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Whitebeard and Shanks haven't joined up. The didn't seem to friendly in chapter 434. The World Government didn't want them to meet, for fear that they might join up or get involved in a battle with each other, but they join up. And even if they did, that's the Shichibukai's job. They don't need to form a new group of Shichibukai from a bunch of rookies. If they want Whitebeard and Shanks separated, (and I think Whitebeard and Shanks are dealing with that on their own) they'll send a Shichibukai or 2. That's kind of why they're there.

 

[Akainu]

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would you call your half brother "hey half brother how are you ?" personally I wouldn't. strength comes through training (by garp) and partly through genes (no one ever denied Ace father being strong - in fact he should be as a "D.").
and for the appearence, I don't really see that but that might just be me.

perhaps they are brothers with the same 2 parents, though imo it would be kinda too much to have Portgas D. Whatshername + Monkey D. Dragon...

 

[weixiaobao]

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Whitebeard and Shanks haven't joined up. The didn't seem to friendly in chapter 434. The World Government didn't want them to meet, for fear that they might join up or get involved in a battle with each other, but they join up. And even if they did, that's the Shichibukai's job. They don't need to form a new group of Shichibukai from a bunch of rookies. If they want Whitebeard and Shanks separated, (and I think Whitebeard and Shanks are dealing with that on their own) they'll send a Shichibukai or 2. That's kind of why they're there.

their are couple of reason why i state what i state..
1. these rookies' bounty is pretty match up with some of shichibukai's former bounty
2. rather make more friends than enemies
3. cp9 almost been wiped out
4. these rookies can be a major threat later on and they don't have time for these things.. since they got to deal with Dragon and Emperors..

and beside Shichibukai only good for scaring weak pirates.. a shichibukai or 2 won't be a match especially moria got his tail kick by one of the shichibukai.. before he met up with luffy..

anyway, I see that your points can be valid too...

 

[camil222]

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ya even if they dont have the same last names they can still be brothers related by blood. i work with a chinese guy and he has his moms last name because he was the oldest of all his brothers and sisters. so his moms obviously portgas something like akainu said. and i dont think she has to be a d cause dragons already a d and if shes a d then dragon is having sex with his cousin. i know its not a fact that d's are from the same family but im sure they are. they all believe in the same principles and thats what genetics are.

ONE PIECE IS THE BEST MANGA BY FAR!!!! narutos good too but its too predictable and they contradict themselves too much.

 

[Imitorar]

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their are couple of reason why i state what i state..
1. these rookies' bounty is pretty match up with some of shichibukai's former bounty
2. rather make more friends than enemies
3. cp9 almost been wiped out
4. these rookies can be a major threat later on and they don't have time for these things.. since they got to deal with Dragon and Emperors..

and beside Shichibukai only good for scaring weak pirates.. a shichibukai or 2 won't be a match especially moria got his tail kick by one of the shichibukai.. before he met up with luffy..

anyway, I see that your points can be valid too...

Wait, you claim that Shichibukai can only scare weak pirates, but need to deal with the Revolutionaries and the Emperors? That's contradictory. Besides, they can scare strong pirates too. Okay, Moria lost to an Emperor, but that was an Emperor. They're the exceptions, not the rule. Shanks lost to Mihawk at least a few times, even if he beat him a few times too. And CP9 may be gone, but... there are still at least 8 other Cipher Pols. Either way, I don't see a need for a squad of "sub-Shichibukai" to be formed from the Super Novae. I mean, 7 Shichibukai (hm, bit redundant there...) should be strong enough between them to patrol the world, even if one is temporarily out of action. I mean, think about Blackbeard, Doflamingo, Mihawk and Kuma. The Super Novae would be totally out of their league. I know their bounties ( at least the ones over 200 million) are Shichibukai-level, but they don't have Shichibukai level strength, sheer fighting power. Apparently, most major players in the New World have Shichibukai-level bounties or higher, but the Shichibukai are stronger, because there came a point where they were made Shichibukai instead of getting a bounty raised, and their bounties were frozen when they were a bit weaker then they are now.

 

[kal-elh]

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Wait, you claim that Shichibukai can only scare weak pirates, but need to deal with the Revolutionaries and the Emperors? That's contradictory. Besides, they can scare strong pirates too. Okay, Moria lost to an Emperor, but that was an Emperor. They're the exceptions, not the rule. Shanks lost to Mihawk at least a few times, even if he beat him a few times too. And CP9 may be gone, but... there are still at least 8 other Cipher Pols. Either way, I don't see a need for a squad of "sub-Shichibukai" to be formed from the Super Novae. I mean, 7 Shichibukai (hm, bit redundant there...) should be strong enough between them to patrol the world, even if one is temporarily out of action. I mean, think about Blackbeard, Doflamingo, Mihawk and Kuma. The Super Novae would be totally out of their league. I know their bounties ( at least the ones over 200 million) are Shichibukai-level, but they don't have Shichibukai level strength, sheer fighting power. Apparently, most major players in the New World have Shichibukai-level bounties or higher, but the Shichibukai are stronger, because there came a point where they were made Shichibukai instead of getting a bounty raised, and their bounties were frozen when they were a bit weaker then they are now.

Just a comment, not all Shichibukai are that strong but they are obviously a force to be recognized as for the remaining Cipher Pols they all suck, that could be said because they are much weaker then the cp9 that has been cast away for some reason.

As for the relationship of Mihawk and Shanks, well it's said that they were rival my guess is that they stopped fighting for the title of strongest swordsman wen shanks lost his arm or it could be because shanks used some oder means for fighting oder then relying on swordsmanship alone ( well that could actually explain why Shanks accept the world to call Mihawk the strongest )

well Mihawk could actually be stronger then shanks the difference could be that Shanks has an incredible crew and Mihawk is a lone wolf.

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would you call your half brother "hey half brother how are you ?" personally I wouldn't. strength comes through training (by garp) and partly through genes (no one ever denied Ace father being strong - in fact he should be as a "D.").
and for the appearence, I don't really see that but that might just be me.

perhaps they are brothers with the same 2 parents, though imo it would be kinda too much to have Portgas D. Whatshername + Monkey D. Dragon...

the reason that I said what I said was because to me if they would be half brother they would be related by the father side ( the difference of personality by the way Dragons seems to be the responsible type doesn't he, so that might be a similarity and if they were not related by blood Oda would have told us by now cuz he likes to give tips on the unfold of the story even if sometimes we don't realize that ) so chill out cuz he'll tell us if he think is relevant so by the time been don't over think this cuz is not really relevant.

 

[OdaForPresident]

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i know its not a fact that d's are from the same family but im sure they are. they all believe in the same principles and thats what genetics are.

Saul the giant was also a D. would be hard for Luffy, Garp, Roger etc. To be related to a giant. Maybe Gol D. Roger was his uncle though.

 

[Pirulito]

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I think it'll be better if Roger and Saul are distant relative of Luffy, Garp, Ace.

 

[camil222]

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ya but what if a d mated with a giant, they could be from the same family, even though its a little farfetched. and ya theyre probably distant relative.

 

[bradz22]

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hahaha!!! you're kidding right? lmao!!!

 

[goldb]

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yeah, I'm still wondering what the connection between all the "D"s are....
maybe it has something to do with the unnamed kingdom prof.clover mentioned in ohara.

 

[Pirulito]

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I think it too.
And I guess Robin have some notion about the D because of this

 

[szhang]

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i wonder if raleigh has some kind of connection to sir walter raleigh from the history books, just liek blackbeard definitely has a relationship with the actual blackbeard, and him being one of the most famous and feared pirates of all time

notes: raleigh was the one who was part of the "el dorado" city of gold thing, and the first english colonization of north america with the island of Raonoke.

I ve noticed through living in Japan that Japanese manga likes to base many things on American, and European history and relgion, so this maybe a connection. I mean how many manga give direct connection to the history of christianity and some of it's angels.

Just a theory

 

[Imitorar]

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Well, Oda's used the names of real pirates for alot of characters. Check here, here, and here for some information about some of the real pirates One Piece characters got their names from. Though most weren't outright confirmed by Oda.

 

[Mische]

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I totally agree with Razh and Vizard5. There is no doubt that fire is Aokjis weakness. It makes no difference how strong he might be if he fights someone else. Of course he would still try some things and through his experiance he wont be easy to beat but there is not one attack he showed that would really work on ace.
Look at the fight enel vs Luffy. In generell Enel would have been unbeatable for any of them. Luffy had his problems with him but in the end Enels weakness decided the fight...