One Piece Mega Convo Thread, the 1st Chapter

[Imitorar]

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The wings are just an accessory, I think, since the Shandorans wore them too, even before the Knock-Up Stream launched them onto Skypiea. But although it makes SENSE to say that One Piece is in a post-apocalyptic world, it doesn't seem to fit with what we know of the One Piece world and how it works, and of Oda's style. The One Piece world is it's own world, and it's in general a happy, but dangerous world, not a post-apocalyptic one. It seems to fit better being it's own adventure-dream world.

 

[MDLatqp]

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Oh I'm in complete agreement. Though there are plenty of unanswered questions about how things works and the like, and though I've discussed at length possible ways to explain some of the remarkable phenomena in the OP universe using our own rationales and scientific models, I've never believed radiation was part of the cause, lol.

But while we're on the topic of wings, I'm curious. Did we ever see any Shandorans or Skypieans who didn't have them? I can't recall, but if I had to, I'd guess no. What an odd accessory though...for a whole society too! Then again, lotsa people in our societies wear clothes, and to outsiders, that might seem pretty whacky too, haha. In the end I suppose it doesn't really matter much, but it is interesting.

 

[Imitorar]

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Well, in light of Enel's Great Space Operation volume 35, which is the cover page to chapter 470 and can be seen here, I would say that humans in the One Piece world originally came from the moon, and thus they wore weird things. Then, they went down to Skypiea, then some went down to Jaya and populated the rest of the world. But they all forgot that they'd come from the moon, and the ones on Skypiea and the Blue Seas forgot each about each other's existence, except in old legends. I've had that theory ever since I saw that cover page, to be honest.

 

[Absolutio]

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Yea.. I thought so the same.. The skypea people are actually aliens!!

And the post-apocalyptic world sounds too much like 666-satan, and I believe that Oda said something like "A manga world has its own rules, there isn't supposed to always be a connection/explanation from the real world" or sort of like that in one of his answers in the SBS. (Imitorar, if you're bored you're free to look for something like that... )

 

[Impel Down]

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Didn't he just say that OP was a world where anything and everything can happen except for flying and magic?

Although, we already saw a lot of flying, so...not so much with that one.

And I highly doubt OP will ever turn into a Post-Apocalypse manga. The world is for the most part pretty happy-go-lucky, except for the odd-pirate invasions, and the New World, of course.

 

[Imitorar]

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It's a serious sort of happy-go-lucky, though. Oda once said that this is a "man's world". But whatever type of world it is, I love it. And there hasn't really been flying. Geppou and Bird Devil Fruits aren't people flying on their own. I think he meant like in Dragon Ball, where everyone could just fly in and of themselves. In One Piece, you need some other power to do it.

 

[Impel Down]

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Thousand Sunny flew, in a way, but yeah, there's no just "super-power-flying".

I suppose comparing it to DBZ was a better way to explain it. But to the "manly happy-go-lucky", the East Blue Saga was EXTREMELY happy-go-lucky, even the Arlong arc wasn't the darkest it could be, but mostly because the "crew" stood around the courts of Arlong Park and got into a few odd fights the whole major battle, and everyone watched and cheered on Luffy beating Arlong, which happened in just about every arc in the East Blue Saga.

 

[Absolutio]

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Oda once said that this is a "man's world".

For a "Men's world", he sure does pay alot of attention to the "details" of the world's females..
Pervy old Oda-sensei..

 

[Imitorar]

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Manly and happy-go-lucky aren't mutually exclusive. Luffy himself personifies this. Tell me he isn't manly when he's serious. Not in looks, but in thoughts and deeds, which are what counts. And Absulutio... Those are OTHER people who kept asking him for Nami and Robin's three sizes in the SBS, as well as other fun questions like "Do Califa's breasts jiggle when she uses Tekkai?"

 

[Absolutio]

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Well.. They kept asking him for a reason.. If you get what I mean.. It is quite fascinating..

 

[kestrel_78]

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Even if I was right and people did have a major war and lose their technology, that dosent mean that they couldn't rebuild and make a happy-go-lucky world afterwords. And the devil fruits could come from man's attempts to make super-soldiers or whatever. I just thought that "the true history of the world" that talked about all these weapons that could destroy the world if they were ever used again sounded post-apocalyptic. How do we know that these weapons will destroy the world if they are used? What happened the first time they were used? Maby they don't come from this world, but if that is the case then don't you think something really bad must have happened for all those weapons and technology to have disappeared?

 

[Absolutio]

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The post-apocalyptic thingie is way too much overused, in so many mangas/animes.. I don't think that Oda, with his super creativity needs something as "dull" as that to explain whatever needs explaining.. He also might explain those things in just "that's the way it is.."

 

[illestsaini]

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Who's the strongest Shicibuaki..... =D

 

[Imitorar]

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^We don't really know. People like to say Mihawk, because he's an extremely cool character, and also, he's the greatest swordsman in the world, and Zoro's ultimate opponent, so all that points to him being an extremely powerful person, even by Shichibukai standards. However, going by the bounties, Doflamingo has the highest former bounty of the known Shichibukai, at 340,000,000. However, we don't know the former bounties for Mihawk, Jimbei, or the 7th Shichibukai, so we can't say for sure from the bounties.

 

[illestsaini]

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i hope the merman island saga is much more different than the arlong one... it would suck to see them both simalar....

 

[Freakzin]

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i didn`t understand this page... http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-100/page001.html why is it Gold Roger there? are the words said before, the words the said one time? or is it that i know Impel,Imirotar and Absolutio will say i`m crazy but or this is a bad translation or that is Gold Roger. LOL i know he is dead, even if he is logia, the cuffs are kairoseki so he`d die anyway. But think about this possibility, Garp changes the cuffs for normal ones. He pretends to die, all that assuming he has a logia type DF. And then starts to plan how he`ll get the WG. I love luffy`s dad so mysterious, i`m more curious about his tatoo than his power. Where did it come from, i don`t think it`s just a regular tatoo.Wow so many thoughts =D i`m done

 

[Absolutio]

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This is dragon, and he said those stuffs, if I'm not mistaken. maybe check the anime ver. for that.

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I correct myself. It might be dragon's thoughts, or the commentor speaking. But the part with gold roger is a bad trans. I read it in another ver. and it said something else..

 

[Impel Down]

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I'm pretty sure it's just a general narration, with Roger's words ringing in the background.

But that was a pretty bad translation, since Roger's REAL speech is:

Inherited Will, The Destiny of an Age and the Dreams of its People
As long as its People continue to pursue the meaning of freedom
These People will not Die and this Age:

WILL NEVER CEASE TO BE!



*ahem* I apologize for that.

 

[Absolutio]

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Good job. So that what it meant, and that's why there's this speach in the anime.
Wow, the translation is so off.. =D

 

[Impel Down]

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I hope to one day give that speech to a villain as I'm saving the world in front of the World.