One Piece Mega Convo Thread, the 1st Chapter

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Re: One Piece Mega Convo (Spoilers!)

Haki? More like hachoo! Or achoo! The stuff is not by any means the only means for non-fruit users to fight or anything. If everyone started using it and such, what's the point in learning it when it's nothing special and commonplace? The options in the GL should not be to eat a fruit or 'learn' 'haki'. At least that's what my mom tells me :P
 

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Re: One Piece Mega Convo (Spoilers!)

I wonder is Oda will now scrap the concept of using environmental or other factors to fight a DF user.........EG when Luffy used water/blood to fight croc etc........or do you reckon that Haki will just become the be all to end all for OP fighting
 

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I think that Croc is there specifically so we can gauge how much stronger Luffy has gotten. Luffy will easily take out Croc without water or blood and Croc won't understand why but someone will sense Luffy's usage of Haki.

What I am worried about is the Chief Warden and vice Chief Warden. The warden is a poison man which likely means every time Luffy hits him he will become poisoned. The Vice Chief Warden probably also has an ability but we have never seen what it is. The poison effect still works even though kairoseki bars dispersed the hydra shape. This means that even if Luffy were a master of Haki and could disable the DF powers of his enemy's attacks the poison would still get in contact with him.

He also needs to find some food on 3rd level because on 4th level at least some of the food is poisoned... and we know how much Luffy eats.
 
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Re: One Piece Mega Convo (Spoilers!)

I think Luffy will make a "rubber shield" that works like latex gloves. :)
 

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I think that Croc is there specifically so we can gauge how much stronger Luffy has gotten. Luffy will easily take out Croc without water or blood and Croc won't understand why but someone will sense Luffy's usage of Haki.

What I am worried about is the Chief Warden and vice Chief Warden. The warden is a poison man which likely means every time Luffy hits him he will become poisoned. The Vice Chief Warden probably also has an ability but we have never seen what it is. The poison effect still works even though kairoseki bars dispersed the hydra shape. This means that even if Luffy were a master of Haki and could disable the DF powers of his enemy's attacks the poison would still get in contact with him.

He also needs to find some food on 3rd level because on 4th level at least some of the food is poisoned... and we know how much Luffy eats.
Good stuff Wowzers, i like the first 2 paragraphs but i have to disagree with the third haha :D Luffy is one to eat after a fight not during LOL

I like to add to your theory that Luffy's haki will be somewhat limited in it's perfection so though he may be able to physically hurt mag (who i think is a logia) he won't beable to ocmpletely negate the effects of his DF and as you say be poisoned
 

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Re: One Piece Mega Convo (Spoilers!)

Actually Magellan doesn't melt while creating the Dragon, but was covered with poisen. Yeah, but it is still possible a Logia.
 

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Re: One Piece Mega Convo (Spoilers!)

i dont think its logia, thats what i thought at first but the fruits acts exactly like mr3s fruit. i think it acts the same way. but it could still be no doubt about it logia. if you think about it, theres no more elements you can have so poison would be a good element.
 

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poison logia would be the most overpowered thing in that facility. intangibility, passive attack through poison and active attack too. now just tell me that if not pumped into his body through an injury or a needle Luffy is immune due to his DF...
 

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Re: One Piece Mega Convo (Spoilers!)

I think Luffy will make a "rubber shield" that works like latex gloves. :)
@Akainu
Ever since that quote, I'm beginning to think like you... Luffy is immune to casual contact but if it gets inside him somehow, like an injury, injection, gets in his eyes, nose, mouth, etc... then the poison can affect him.

Yet another Luffy immunity. :)
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LOL!!!!!!!
I just figured out Luffy's immunity to Hancock's Mero Mero no mi ability: Her power acts like an STD... and he is a rubber man!! XD
 
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If Luffy's rubber body could work like gloves and somehow stop poison from entering then technically he'd be dead since he wouldn't be able to sweat and thus his body would overheat.

And he'd be dead.

I know logic and science rarely works with One Piece, but if Oda makes Luffy a talking latex glove then he failed biology. He'd also fail his own reasoning, since Luffy absorbs oxygen through his skin for Gear Second.
 

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thats true bittman. your logic might seem too complicated for one piece but it would contradict the gear second physiologie. and im pretty sure the glove thing wouldnt work doesnt make sense. like even normal human wouldnt get affected by poison through their own skin. like the guy magellan attacked, well it went all over his face and im sure it somehow manage to get in his body. but think about it. if you drop poison on your skin is it gonna kill you? nope! youll lose a couple of skin cells but nothing noticeable. i study in anatomy and physiology at university so i know all about that. so what im trying to say is even if luffy would not be made of rubber, it wouldnt affect him that much. well ok unless his soaked in poison, that might fuck him up a bit but it wont kill him unless he leaves the poison on his skin for like half an hour.

anyway even if hed get soaked in poison he can do fuusen to get it all off. remember poison isnt acid. its completely different. and sorry for the long paragraph i kno some of you guys dont like it.
 

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Why gear second need oxygen? Luffy increase the metabolism and it cause him to apparently being burned.
poison logia would be the most overpowered thing in that facility. intangibility, passive attack through poison and active attack too. now just tell me that if not pumped into his body through an injury or a needle Luffy is immune due to his DF...
Isn't like that to Aokiji, Ace and Enel? You hit them and end up being hurt?
 

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sounds cliche.. but the vice warden looks to me like he has Haki.. maybe the same type as Boa's and Luffy's. Its a rare haki, but he is also a rare character. he is not caught up by her appeal, and his overriding quality seems to be Ambition. It may not be haki, it may not be that type of haki, but the key to his character to me its his ambition. He is the most openly ambitious character in the OP world. I mean, he cant say three words without saying... "My".. with "Warden" or "Prison".


thats true bittman. your logic might seem too complicated for one piece but it would contradict the gear second physiologie. and im pretty sure the glove thing wouldnt work doesnt make sense. like even normal human wouldnt get affected by poison through their own skin. like the guy magellan attacked, well it went all over his face and im sure it somehow manage to get in his body. but think about it. if you drop poison on your skin is it gonna kill you? nope! youll lose a couple of skin cells but nothing noticeable. i study in anatomy and physiology at university so i know all about that. so what im trying to say is even if luffy would not be made of rubber, it wouldnt affect him that much. well ok unless his soaked in poison, that might fuck him up a bit but it wont kill him unless he leaves the poison on his skin for like half an hour.

anyway even if hed get soaked in poison he can do fuusen to get it all off. remember poison isnt acid. its completely different. and sorry for the long paragraph i kno some of you guys dont like it.
if you get bathed in cobra poison or another strong poison.. you would die (completely unrealistic, cause there is no place where you can swim in a cobra poison pool). But pretty sure small quantities absorbed by your skin, and areas such as your month, ears, skin pores would be enough. I would have to ask a specialist for specifics and quantities, but same as you absorb skin lotion.. you'd absorb poison.. no its not acid, but depending on the poison, it can probably kill you if it covered your face in particular (your eyes, or other areas that are more absorbing than your dermis).

(kid's health website :) )

How poisons can get into your body
There are four main ways that poisons can get into the body.

1. Through the mouth and swallowing it.
2. Absorbed through the skin
3. By injection – including bites and stings
4. By breathing in, or inhaling [say in-hay-ling]
 
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Isn't like that to Aokiji, Ace and Enel? You hit them and end up being hurt?
not necessarily. if you hit ice then what? you can break it he will reform himself and as long as there are no sharp edges ther is no problem.
you hit fire? well it won't hurt Ace but it won't burn you especially if it's just one fast punch.
dunno 'bout Enel atm. he could well be not hurting anyone though I only remember Luffy hitting him and that's out of question because he is rubber.
Although you can take another Logia in there: Croc's sand. just hitting him doesn't make you dry out.
With the poison it would be diffrent, but I don't believe he is logia.

Also about rubber being immune to poison, I'm surprised it started a discussion at all. I'm not favouring that idea in any way,, though I have to say it's one possible way of thinking with Oda! after all Luffy has to go through the scorching hell before so maybe that one thing so many people predicted will happen temporarily: Luffy vulcanizes and poison can't hurt him through his skin... :oh
 

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I highly doubt megallan's df is a Logia type. From the time I saw it I thought paramecia. Since when was Poison an element?
But yea, I doubt and hope its not a logia
 

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Poison or not,Logia are still overpowered....actually haki is the only solution,and a lot of us know that,even if there are kids that for everything they see they need a full explanation.....1+1=2 1+x=2 so x =2-1=1

Both Crocodile and Enel defeat were for the sake of the story,can u really say that in a one VS one fight between The Actual Luffy and Croc,Luffy is going to win for sure???
The blood trick was good,but just for the story.....Croco was able to dry all the water in a big area and he couln't dry two drops of blood or water on his body???come on....
And yea,Luffy is rubber so he is isolated from electricity,but seriously,what would happen if a 20/100.000.000 volt hit rubber??it would melt....and is not like having rubber gloves you can touch electricity....
 

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true dat. we already all thought about that. but its good for the story and at least theres a logic behind what oda is writing.
 

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its like MacGiver or Star Trek.. I mean some scientific or rational foundation taken way out of proportion.. Somehow he will probably defeat Mallegan as well.
 

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U guys seem to be forgetting Mizu Luffy, lol.
But anyway, I can't wait for luffy to free Ace and Jimbei so they can rain havok in that damn prison. Rubber, Fire, uhh.....Water dude, total ownship!!!
 

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Re: One Piece Mega Convo (Spoilers!)

yes i think by the end of this arc the WG and ID specifically will be looking a fair bit worse for ware
 
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