One Piece Mega Convo Thread, the 1st Chapter

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Re: One Piece Mega Convo (Spoilers!)

wow! never knew about that zeff difference.. i guess i'll start reading from chapter 1 after my finals..

thanks for info..
If you've already watched the anime, then it's not really worth it to read the manga, unless you're really dedicated. Basically nothing was changed, and precious little added, although for the sake of purism, it's always best to check out the original. It's your decision whether or not you wanna go that far, but I think I should warn you that you aren't really missing much except for the nerdy pleasure of having read the creator's own, unadapted work.
 

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Oda has less influence in the Anime and since the Manga is directly from him, it's "more" canon. About the slicing scene, well the anime probably skipped that cause it may had a bad influence on kids or sth.. idk lol
Yeah that's true there are lots of censorship nowadays. I guess Luffy really looks like a real badass with that scar, huh. LOL!! Other badass pirate would probably ask him: "Hey! where you get that nasty scar?"
Luffy:"Oh, this? I did it myself."
Pirates:"HUH?!" LOL!!


They also changed things on Baratie so that instead of Zeff eating his own leg, his leg is torn off when he rescues Sanji,
eww!...That's hardcore man. I can't believe Oda actually tell that story for kids. I'm gonna have to find that chapter and see with my own eyes. But I actually perfer him losing his leg for sanji. It make Sanji's departure @ the end of Baratie arc a lot more emotional.
 

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I can't believe Oda actually tell that story for kids. I'm gonna have to find that chapter and see with my own eyes. But I actually perfer him losing his leg for sanji. It make Sanji's departure @ the end of Baratie arc a lot more emotional.
The anime version is pure nonsense. With the anime, Zeff is being told to have lost his leg for sanji but if he had not cut himself his leg, he would have died from drowning. Whereas with the manga, the sacrifice is valorous as he did not have to eat his leg to survive : he just had to take the food for himself ; but he decided to give all the food to Sanji.
Do you the difference in the two cases ? One is pitiful, the other is wonderful.
 

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this is directed to Imitorar. i think that reading the manga is always important with any series. sure watching the anime is fun and all but i think that one cant truly connect with a series until you read the manga, and thats for all/every/any series. i personally always read and then watch, because you get a better understanding through the manga and then the anime can jus reinforce everything.
 

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eww!...That's hardcore man. I can't believe Oda actually tell that story for kids. I'm gonna have to find that chapter and see with my own eyes. But I actually perfer him losing his leg for sanji. It make Sanji's departure @ the end of Baratie arc a lot more emotional.
I might be reading this wrong, and if I am I apologize and disregard the following.

Either way the story goes (meaning the anime version or the manga version) Zeff lost his leg for Sanji. In the manga he gives all the food to Sanji so that he will survive and cut's off and proceeds to eat his own leg b/c he gave all the food to Sanji (speaking of which, is it considered cannibalism to eat yourself :p). So, imo, Sanji's departure is equally dramatic for both the anime and manga.
 

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I might be reading this wrong, and if I am I apologize and disregard the following.

Either way the story goes (meaning the anime version or the manga version) Zeff lost his leg for Sanji. In the manga he gives all the food to Sanji so that he will survive and cut's off and proceeds to eat his own leg b/c he gave all the food to Sanji (speaking of which, is it considered cannibalism to eat yourself :p). So, imo, Sanji's departure is equally dramatic for both the anime and manga.
In his defense, I don't think that he KNEW that Zeff ate his leg because he gave Sanji the food. I didn't mention WHY Zeff ate his leg, and I don't think he's read the manga for that part, just watched the anime. So I think it was ignorance more than forgetfulness.

@ Gcat88: Oh yes, I agree that should always read the manga. But that's because I'm a purist, and I believe in reading the original source material for the most "authentic" experience. But not everyone is so particular about things like that, and some people are perfectly happy with consuming an (almost completely) faithful adaptation. Hey, if it works for them, fine, but I would never do it. Unless the anime came before the manga, because I've noticed that manga based on anime tend to be pretty bad. With me, it's about which came first, which was the original and not the adaptation of the other. I don't think that there's anything inherently better about the medium of manga than there is about the medium of anime, it's just the manga is almost always the source material.
 

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A perfect example of what Imitorar said would be Full Metal Alchemist where the anime deviated from the manga very early on, and truly had it's own seperate storyline after 20 episodes.

The first anime production came to a close with the OVA.
The manga is still unfinished, though nearing it's end.
The second anime production will aim to follow the manga, though deviation is still likely.

All of the above are worth reading/watching. On the other hand, One Piece (and most mainstream Shonen) manga to anime conversions vex me. The pace is completely ruined, what often seems dramatic is lost in poor voice acting or drawn out chapters.

Hopefully Japan will do the Hollywood thing of the moment and remake hits with a more modern take, though I doubt many things will.
 

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I guess both of you are right. its better to see/read whichever one came first. the original idea is the best one, most of the time.

Back to OP. i have a feeling that at some point in the series either the WG will fall or the Shichibukai will fall and the revolution will become one of the three great powers. OR there will be the great four powers. which one do you think is more feasible, if any??
 

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Sorry to interrupt, but it seems that OP is now officially the best selling Manga of All-time!!!!

Congrats to all OP fans out there for making this so special and thank you Oda for creating this fantabulous manga that has taken up so much of our social lives ...you truly are legendary:worship2

Kanpai everyone!!!
:beer

Here's the image from Xmuradx on AP:



And the original link:
http://www.geocities.jp/wj_log/rank/rank0.html

It would be interesting to know what it says on the link above, any translators feel up to the job??? please....
 

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Is it world wide, or not?
 

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I think this is just for Japan, but it's the only place where the sales really matter anyway...
 

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Finally, it's the best seller. And very well deserving of that title, it is! Kanpai! :beer Dragon Ball still has more sold per volume, though, and I doubt that will change, but HELL YEAH, go One Piece! :tem
 

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it is obvious that this would happen. remember op is this famous and its HALF WAY DONE!!!!!!!!!! way to deviate from the topic or my question btw.
 

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Hopefully Japan will do the Hollywood thing of the moment and remake hits with a more modern take, though I doubt many things will.
First of all, I doubt that Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood will deviate from the manga, because odds are that it won't catch up before Fullmetal Alchemist ends in... about 6 months. But aside from that, I don't think that they've ever remade a "series", an anime with an actual story to follow. I mean, Doraemon and Yatterman and things like that have had remakes and/or multiple series's, but they're the sort of series's where you can just take the characters and put them in a new situation, so there's a chance to have new material in the remake as well.

The only series that's ever been remade to be more concise and fitting with the manga is Dragonball Z, and that probably won't happen again. First of all, it was for the 20th anniversary. Second of all, it was Dragon Ball. They were practically assured good ratings. Even One Piece may not get that, due to sheer volume. DBZ had about 200 episodes worth of filler to remove, so there was a lot of streamlining, plus the fact that they put something animated in the early-mid '90s into HD. One Piece has been in HD for the last 4 years or so, and will be much longer than DBZ, without all that filler that they can just ignore. It probably won't happen. Animation companies would rather crank out new stuff than perfect the old. Unlike Hollywood movie studios, they aren't quite bankrupt for ideas yet.

And as to One Piece being the best selling manga now... I don't know why you're all surprised. We've known that this would eventually happen for years. I'm just surprised that it happened already, I thought it might take another year or two. But One Piece will probably be best selling, Kochikame second, and Dragon Ball third, since the first two are SO FLAMING LONG (and in One Piece's case, popular. Remember that Kochikame is about 3 times One Piece's length, and 4 times Dragon Ball's). I'm more annoyed that Bleach has reached the length where it can outsell classic '80s series's. I really hope that it ends before it can reach JoJo, although it will probably end up right below Naruto, someday. Unless they're counting JoJo after volume 63...
 

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i have a question if luffy haki is 1 in a million how populated is the one piece world if its populated as ours i mean every one luffy crew could have that kind of haki i am not saying that they do so please don't make any complains to me and sorry if this is a little of topic I'm new after all
 

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i have a question if luffy haki is 1 in a million how populated is the one piece world if its populated as ours i mean every one luffy crew could have that kind of haki i am not saying that they do so please don't make any complains to me and sorry if this is a little of topic I'm new after all
I had been thinking the same thing for a while but chose to ignore it because i didnt want to believe that Luffy's haki was so common. Though having just read your post i rethought about it.

Think about it like this - Take any world class sport, tennis, say. Now think about how many people have the potential to be the "best in the world". I'd say around one in a million, if you take an average of the whole worlds population, has the "potential" talent. So of the 7 billion population, that would make around 7000 potential candidates. But now we have to think; How many of them actually want to be tennis players? How many of them have the resources available? Also, just because they have the potential to do something, its just a potential at the end of the day and without hard work and training it will just go to waste.

If there are others like Luffy (and there are) only a handful will actually be able to use their haki properly. Even Luffy doesn't know how to, yet. So don't worry about it too much. As another comparison, say Luffy met some other dude who happened to have the exact same DF power, Luffy would still destroy him. Same is applicable to haki, though currently Luffy is pretty useless with it - Boa > Luffy :P haha
 
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I had been thinking the same thing for a while but chose to ignore it because i didnt want to believe that Luffy's haki was so common. Though having just read your post i rethought about it.

Think about it like this - Take any world class sport, tennis, say. Now think about how many people have the potential to be the "best in the world". I'd say around one in a million, if you take an average of the whole worlds population, has the "potential" talent. So of the 7 billion population, that would make around 7000 potential candidates. But now we have to think; How many of them actually want to be tennis players? How many of them have the resources available? Also, just because they have the potential to do something, its just a potential at the end of the day and without hard work and training it will just go to waste.

If there are others like Luffy (and there are) only a handful will actually be able to use their haki properly. Even Luffy doesn't know how to, yet. So don't worry about it too much. As another comparison, say Luffy met some other dude who happened to have the exact same DF power, Luffy would still destroy him. Same is applicable to haki, though currently Luffy is pretty useless with it - Boa > Luffy :P haha

As for prediction, I agree with most that Shiryuu will end up with BB one way or another. But I think BB's main reason for being there has got to do with the bounty poster Don Flamingo was looking at while they were all eating together. You can see BB's eyes overlooking the poster. Assuming it's Luffys, with some mega bounty, post hitting the tenryubito, then BB is there for Luffy - rumour spread he was in ID.

Note: For those thinking Ace is already at Marinefold because they were at a set of gates - there are 3 gates, one at each vertex of the triangle. They were just about to enter the current which will take them to headquarters.

We shall see soon enough
Ever since I started reading the one piece forums, many people have been talking about Haki a lot. I really don't remember it being mentioned much.

I know that Reliegh used it and everybody was all "WTF".
Then Luffy used it against the 2 sisters and people seemed to be surprised.

But aside for that, I don't ever remember any conversations about it or any other references. You guys (again, since I've been coming to the OP board...which has been less than a year) seem to be bringing it up as if it was identified in the story as something useful for Luffy later on.

Can anyone direct me in the correct direction?


Actually, forget about it. Found a wiki of sorts that gave chapter numbers.

damn, this author really likes to take things slowly. He'll slowly put "power-ups" in the manga and slowly incorporate them. Only time I've seen an instant power up was at enies lobby, in which Luffy, out of nowhere did level 2 and level 3. It truly came out of nowhere since he never mentioned it nor we never saw him practicing it.
 
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Haki has certainly been discussed a lot in this forum. In particular when he was in Juka island. But since it is off topic, I suggest you read the thread which is dedicated to it in the tree of knowledge.
And yes everyone thinks it will be usefull for Luffy. Especially after his defeat against kuma. Luffy need a power up and he have something only one person in a million have. Do you really think Oda can miss that ?
 

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he will find a way to make haki work for him and transform it into a move. after seeing all these new ppl it makes me wonder, has luffy tapped into even half of his DF power???
 

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Well, I certainly don't know what the full potential of his ability is. I would of thought that the gears would be it but knowing Oda he's probably got something up his sleeves with Luffy; but it could also be that he's just going to incorporate his haki with his DF power like the women on Amazon Lily
 
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