One Piece Mega Convo Thread, the 2nd Chapter

[Katz]

So you think that Dadan is one "five elder stars" IE the Gorousei?, wow wouldn't that be a huge shocker, but hey nothing is ever planned with Oda, great predict tho.

 

[Black Lagoon]

the dalailama is Dadan (xD)

 

[Razh]

I also seem to remember a picture of Dadan where his face was hidden from some time ago. Can't remember when it was though. He was wearing a suit.

That was Garp.

That's the only reason why someone first said that Dadan could be one of Gorosei. The suit and the beard. Which belong to Garp as it turns out.

I think Dadan should be a woman and I'll be very much surprised if it turns out to be a man. It's obviously someone who doesn't travel much, or at least didn't travel for around 10 years, otherwise there would be no one to watch the kids.

 

[chess4]

whoever dadan is, im sure he/she has some fighting ability, since they taught ace and luffy. he/she has to be a former pirate. i cant see garp trusting such a secret with a marine, and if he/marine then they must be somewhere around the age of garp.

i still think that dadan was the guy with the shades on the ship with roger in chapter 0. rayleigh said he was lost at sea when hacchi rescued him. maybe he was on his way to get ace from garp, but was thought to be dead, so garp let him go with dadan. kinda farfetched i know.

 

[Bugzee]

I really want to see the flashback moment when BB gave Shanks that scar! Dammit, its so mysterious-like when Shanks explained to WB how no other injury/scar hurts more then the one BB gave him!

I wonder what BB's parents were like hahaha !

 

[Fox666]

Actually it would make sense to Dadan being a pirate. Not just that there have been already pirates in Luffy's hometown such as Shanks, but you cannot let a Marine along a boy called "Gol D. Ace"...

 

[bittman]

Why not? Roger entrusted only Garp with the task of saving Gol D Ace. Garp the marine. Not Rayleigh the pirate. Not Shanks the pirate. Not Whitebeard the pirate. Garp the marine.

Not all marines are sell outs.

On the flip side of the coin, if you can imagine that a marine can't be trusted with the son of Roger, how can you not imagine a pirate being trusted with the grandson of Garp?

I expect Dadan to be some sort of neutral being. If he is part of some faction, he'll be like Garp and be a person who is slack on the rules.

 

[Black Lagoon]

Why not? Roger entrusted only Garp with the task of saving Gol D Ace. Garp the marine. Not Rayleigh the pirate. Not Shanks the pirate. Not Whitebeard the pirate. Garp the marine.

Maybe because he couldn't contact Rayleigh or the other pirates, although he could have told them before the sad goodbye, but as I've said before, the WG is well aware of the existence of the Jolly Roger Pirates and he might pursue them and capture them, hence Ace and his identity would be in danger, So Roger trusted Ace to Garp because he knows that the WG wouldn't suspect him and the most important thing is he knew that Garp will take care of the little Ace (because even if they are enemies, their fight/battles made them like brothers)

I expect Dadan to be some sort of neutral being. If he is part of some faction, he'll be like Garp and be a person who is slack on the rules.

Same here, or just a normal civilian xD.

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

I've got it. Dadan is an old friend of Garp that was in the marine and that retired before Garp took care of Ace. As we all expect Dadan to be strong, he was a unique man among the marines : marine Dadan alias Admiral Fleet " Kong ". That's why we have seen the shadow of Kong and him talking to Garp in chapter 0. Sounds good ?

 

[chess4]

I've got it. Dadan is an old friend of Garp that was in the marine and that retired before Garp took care of Ace. As we all expect Dadan to be strong, he was a unique man among the marines : marine Dadan alias Admiral Fleet " Kong ". That's why we have seen the shadow of Kong and him talking to Garp in chapter 0. Sounds good ?

oh snap.................could be possible. it sounds good to me. i mean garp wanted ace and luffy to become strong marines, so who better to look after them than a retired fleet admiral. it also explains why/how he taught them how to fight, and why garp and dadan are good friends

 

[Razh]

Yeah, it sounds awesome. Former fleet admiral gets bored with commanding greatest army in the world and decides to try how he fares as a babysitter.
Dadan is a former fleet admiral? Really?

What's with all the hype about Dadan? First he's Gorosei, then it's supposed to be a fleet admiral?

Oh, I know! It's the richest most powerful Tenryuunito!

Dadan is a God?

If you discount the ridiculous possibilities, like top Marine or WG officials, what does it leave?
Former Roger pirate? Nope. They were vigorously hunted by WG and Marines. Leaving Ace with such a person would be dangerous. It's most likely an old friend of Garp's, maybe even his old girlfriend or something.
In any case, it probably isn't a Roger pirate or a high ranking Marine.

 

[chess4]

it really makes sense at dadan is fleet admiral kong. would explain why ace ace and luffy were so well hidden.

 

[Black Lagoon]

I've got it. Dadan is an old friend of Garp that was in the marine and that retired before Garp took care of Ace. As we all expect Dadan to be strong, he was a unique man among the marines : marine Dadan alias Admiral Fleet " Kong ". That's why we have seen the shadow of Kong and him talking to Garp in chapter 0. Sounds good ?

Sounds Awesome

Yeah, it sounds awesome. Former fleet admiral gets bored with commanding greatest army in the world and decides to try how he fares as a babysitter.
Dadan is a former fleet admiral? Really?

What's with all the hype about Dadan? First he's Gorosei, then it's supposed to be a fleet admiral?

Oh, I know! It's the richest most powerful Tenryuunito!

Dadan is a God?

LMAO xD

If you discount the ridiculous possibilities, like top Marine or WG officials, what does it leave?
Former Roger pirate? Nope. They were vigorously hunted by WG and Marines. Leaving Ace with such a person would be dangerous. It's most likely an old friend of Garp's, maybe even his old girlfriend or something.
In any case, it probably isn't a Roger pirate or a high ranking Marine.

Fully agree, Finally someone said it the way I wanted, look at my last 3 posts here, I was trying to say the same thing but you nailed my thoughts ^_^

 

[Bugzee]

That would be cool if Fleet Admiral Kong turns out to be Dadan! Nice Lord Rayleigh!!!

 

[OunknownO]

I know that this is completly other subject but with sanji, he will learn hq newkama kenpo but he will make some modifications because he dosen't use hands during the combat... what are you thinking about that?

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

Yeah, it sounds awesome. Former fleet admiral gets bored with commanding greatest army in the world and decides to try how he fares as a babysitter.
Dadan is a former fleet admiral? Really?

What's with all the hype about Dadan? First he's Gorosei, then it's supposed to be a fleet admiral?

Oh, I know! It's the richest most powerful Tenryuunito!

Dadan is a God?

If you discount the ridiculous possibilities, like top Marine or WG officials, what does it leave?
Former Roger pirate? Nope. They were vigorously hunted by WG and Marines. Leaving Ace with such a person would be dangerous.
It's most likely an old friend of Garp's, maybe even his old girlfriend or something. In any case, it probably isn't a Roger pirate or a high ranking Marine.

I don't find the idea that Dadan used to be an important man working for the " justice side " ridiculous. And I find that it sounds awesome to say Dadan is the former Fleet Admiral : a man whose name has been decided to be introduced in the OP world and whose face was shown only as a shadow. Oda did not need to reveal his existence - he could have only shown/said that Garp refused another time to be an Admiral - but he did it, he did it.
Making fun of the idea Dadan was an important man working for justice by saying Dadan is a tenryubito or a God is not very smart of you. I hope you did not really mean that my idea is as ridiculous as the possibility that Dadan is a tenryubito ?
After all, Garp's will was to make of Ace and Luffy top rank marines, and he explained Luffy's dream by the bad influence Red Hair had on him ; a bad influence that came in a perfect education/environment handled by Dadan and the fact Fushia Town is in East Blue (an example of peace). That's obviously (and only) means Dadan was in favour of the justice side. Nevertheless, the fact that the mayor wondered if Dadan knew about what Luffy was becoming and doing makes me think that if Dadan knew it, he would likely react and settle that. For Dadan to do that, he should be strong and able to set sail : a strong guy on the justice side => a famous marine and not an old girlfriend of Garp.
Besides Dadan is not in Fushia Town anymore because of these questions of the mayor : does Dadan know that Luffy is a pirate and does bad things ? : everyone in Fushia Town know about Luffy's piracy. Then, would an old basic woman leave the place where she lived for many years (with two boys she raised) and start a new life elsewhere ? No, only a strong person (that knows the sea/world) would. Dadan could have left Fushia Town after the last of his protected boys (Luffy) became able to live by himself or after he learnt Ace became a famous pirate (that definitely refused to be good : Shichibukai offer rejected)

 

[bittman]

Sanji using his hands would be like Zoro using five swords. Kind of ruin the last 500 chapters of an evolving battle style Oda has provided for them. I mean, there's really nothing stopping them from doing it, but it's not a part of their character.

On Dadan being...well anyone: Doubt it. If he was a someone there would be somebodies coming to visit him. If it was "Kong" in retirement, even if he didn't want to be bugged, there would still be a ton of somebodies looking for him. Whether it's old friends, old rivals, new fleet admirals asking for advice, etc. Someone with a status like that would not be able to remain hidden to take care of two babies with dangerously famous fathers.

 

[Wowzers]

Whoever Dadan was, he would have to be an old friend of Garp, and would also have to be a skilled fighter. Dadan's first job would be to protect the kids. If anyone discovered the identity of their fathers, Dadan would have had to be the first line of defense. He would have to be strong. Probably vice-admiral level or better. Later, he would train them when they are old enough, but at first he was just their protector. I have a hard time believing that Garp would pick a non-marine for the job, as he wanted to train the kids to be strong marines.

I was all on the Gorosei bandwagon, but now the suggestion that it was Fleet Admiral Kong brought a smile to my face. Oda even hid Kong's face, so we know Kong will show up in future chapters sometime.

As for someone recognizing him, Raleigh has lived next door to fleet headquarters for 20 years and has managed to avoid attention all that time. He even kept the same name! If Kong is actually Dadan, he changed his name and went into obscurity in East Blue, where the marine presence is minimal and it would be fairly easy to avoid much attention. Your typical East Blue marines are pretty low on the totem pole so wouldn't be hobnobbing with the Admiralty. This means they would be unlikely to recognize Fleet Admiral Kong. He would likely just look like an old man with a couple of kids in a obscure little village.

 

[Bugzee]

I wonder whether Garp was trained by Dadan! It would be cool if he was like Garp's teacher or something!?

I want to see more of Woop Slap's outbursts!! haha especially, when it comes to celebrating the SH's bounties! haha Kanpai!!

 

[Kanzen Shinkiro]

I bet Roger's bounty that Dadan is just an elder villager who's known Garp for a long time and who Garp entrusted with taking care of Luffy and Ace, and is no one of notable power or status. If he is related to anyone, someone of power, or status, he's probably of a different era and is now just an old fella enjoying his peace. I doubt Dadan will be seen anytime soon if at all in the future.