One Piece Mega Convo Thread, the 2nd Chapter

[goldb]

I think there's something more to the Moby Dick than just the awesome figurehead but like blackhair said, every ship is unique and looking at Icey Bay's ship I'm guessing there's more to come in the NW with more awesome ships to compare to the Sunny-go.

 

[toxun]

Well, I think Sunny itself still need a lot more improvement. At first I imagine it will be just like an Ironclad, and it turn to be customized Sloop. Franky surely will do something from Barjimoa.

 

[gesgift]

ah', learned sth new here. I personally don't believe WB's ship has some kind of Franky like weapon. The Sunny-go is unique. And I guess WB himself is a much more frightening weapon than the Goan weapon, so is no real need for a weapon like that. ^^

Ofcoars WB could use a weapon like that, just to back him up. We should either under-or overestimate WB, But for now I think he and Sengoku ar just keeping an eye on each other, waiting for the next move (by Sengoku).

 

[ANBU4U]

I think there's something more to the Moby Dick than just the awesome figurehead but like blackhair said, every ship is unique and looking at Icey Bay's ship I'm guessing there's more to come in the NW with more awesome ships to compare to the Sunny-go.

I feel like Icy Bay was referring to her Devil Fruit powers more than her ship when she said "My ship can go anywhere". I think she has a paramecia ability that allows her to control ice.

 

[Gecko Moria]

I feel like Icy Bay was referring to her Devil Fruit powers more than her ship when she said "My ship can go anywhere". I think she has a paramecia ability that allows her to control ice.

That ability is too close to Aokiji's ice logia. Aokiji's Devil Fruit not only allows him to turn himself into ice but also grants the power to control ice and to freeze things so a paramecia that allows someone to control ice is unnecessary. Icy Bay probably just has an extremely powerful ship that can crash through all sorts of obstacles.

 

[ANBU4U]

That ability is too close to Aokiji's ice logia. Aokiji's Devil Fruit not only allows him to turn himself into ice but also grants the power to control ice and to freeze things so a paramecia that allows someone to control ice is unnecessary. Icy Bay probably just has an extremely powerful ship that can crash through all sorts of obstacles.

I dont see why their wouldn't be paramecia that allow contol over an element. In fact im sure there are.

Ace is fire. That doesn't mean there isn't a guy out there than can shoot fireballs from his mouth.

Same for Whitey Bay and Akoiji. Maybe she can manipulate ice, but not create it, or create ice but not control it. Any number of possible paramecia combinations are out there.

Furthermore her Epitaph is "Ice Witch" just kinda seems like a bit much for someone whos only ice related ability is a ship with a hard pointed hull (Icebreaker)

$$EDIT$$

No I was wrong, sorry. She does use an Ice Breaker. She must spend a lot of time around ice to earn a nickname like Ice Witch.....I'd say she hangs around the north, but isn't the grandline on the equator??? At any rate, she probably doesn't have an Ice DF, my apologies.

 

[Razh]

I say she hangs around the north, but inst the grandline on the equator???

One Piece has a little different planet than ours. The closeness to the equator doesn't seem to determine the temperature of an island. Each island has it's own meteorological regime.

 

[ANBU4U]

One Piece has a little different planet than ours. The closeness to the equator doesn't seem to determine the temperature of an island. Each island has it's own meteorological regime.

Right, but those conditions change drastically from island to island. It just seems strange that she would spend so much time at a specific winter island when in the grandline you are forced to move linearly....especially during the times when you would be making a name for yourself.

Then again, I suppose its likely that she got the epithet before she entered the grandline. Maybe North Blue?

 

[MeramEranomi]

well i think it's possible that white bay has some sort of water related abilities. after all, ace has the fire power, but akainu still had the magma power, and those two are so DAMN similar. the case is probably similar here. white bay doesn't have a ice power, but maybe some aqua DF that with the combination of something else allows her to freeze things.

 

[Poneglyph420]

From what we have seen of Whitey, I think she has a massive Ice Breaker.. She could be from North Blue...or a bad ass NW Winter Isle. She seems confident in the ability of her ship. But has only said little as of yet....

I'd like to know what happened to Mr. 1.. ??

 

[Black Lagoon]

from AP

According to Oda the Portrait of Pirates artist has passed away.

The news of modeler Mr. Kuroiwa passing was leaked early last week due to Hobby Japan magazine issue.
POP Kuma is apparantly his last work.
It's too bad, he was one of the best sculptor for One Piece figures.

Oda's comments

P･O･Pシリーズの造形師の１
人黒岩さんが亡くなられた。
最期に深い感謝を。(栄一郎)

He's not the only one doing POP series, but still.

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

Re: One Piece 559 Discussion/560 Predictions

The best One Piece Time-Lapse Theory I've ever read was over at AP forums....it was based on the phases of the moon as we see it in the sky every once in a while in the manga. Based on how many times we had seen it full, we could tell how many months had passed.....

The best analysis I have seen was a french one, based on the days they spent on the different islands, the days of boating (that Oda said), and speculation about some time that was not directly said but who uses distances, streams, remarks about some SHs/narrator etc ...
And the conclusion is that from the beginning of the manga to MHQ, 3 months have gone.
You can read it there but it is in french.

 

[Bugzee]

Re: One Piece 559 Discussion/560 Predictions

The best analysis I have seen was a french one, based on the days they spent on the different islands, the days of boating (that Oda said), and speculation about some time that was not directly said but who uses distances, streams, remarks about some SHs/narrator etc ...
And the conclusion is that from the beginning of the manga to MHQ, 3 months have gone.
You can read it there but it is in french.

WTF 3 months!!!!!! No! I personally think its been much longer! I think its been at least a year in the OP world!

BTW: Dim - you've posted the same post twice lol!

 

[Black Lagoon]

Re: One Piece 559 Discussion/560 Predictions

The best analysis I have seen was a french one, based on the days they spent on the different islands, the days of boating (that Oda said), and speculation about some time that was not directly said but who uses distances, streams, remarks about some SHs/narrator etc ...
And the conclusion is that from the beginning of the manga to MHQ, 3 months have gone.
You can read it there but it is in french.

It seems logical and very likely, but I think they spend more time in water (not water seven, but the sea in general ).
IMO it's a bit more ... I dunno ... maybe 5 month

 

[MeramEranomi]

Re: One Piece 559 Discussion/560 Predictions

i'm guessing somewhere around 7/8 months. it's definitely less than a year, but 3 months is really pushing it in my opinion...

 

[OdaisaGod]

Personally I tend to judge that there has been somewhere between 3 and 6 months since Luffy first started sailing.

I am sure it seems longer but if you pay attention during Jaya/Sky Island you will notice that no more than a week at most passed by from the time the ship fell out of the sky until the SHs floated down on the octopus. Thriller Bark on the other hand could not have lasted more than about 8 to 10 hours from when they landed on TB until Zoro took Kuma's shot.

I make special note of those two specifically because both of them lasted around a year (TB) to almost 2 years (Jaya/SI) in terms of real world publishing time.

Another point to consider is that if it had been over a year since they started sailing then Luffy probably would have beaten Crocodile at least 6 months ago. If that was the case the WG would have surely found a replacement Shichibukai in less than 5+ months time.

The final and most decisive pointer to how long since Luffy started sailing is that in chapter 234 Rockstar meets with Whitebeard on behalf of Shanks. After Rockstar is rejected by Whitebeard Shanks decides he needs to meet WB personally. Whereas in chapter 434 Shanks meets with Whitebeard. I have to say that I truly doubt that it would have taken Shanks much longer than a month at the absolute most to travel from where he was until he got to Whitebeard.

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

Re: One Piece 559 Discussion/560 Predictions

It seems logical and very likely, but I think they spend more time in water (not water seven, but the sea in general ).
IMO it's a bit more ... I dunno ... maybe 5 month

The time of the travel between the different islands is calculated too. For me, it seems fine.

Just some examples of the analysis about the time on the sea :
- Travel to the Baratie : 2 days (said that the flag has been put two days ago)
- Travel to Arlong Park : 4 days (the Blue Data Files shows that the distance between Baratie/Arlong Park is twice the distance between Syrup/Baratie)
- Travel to Logue Town : 6 days (Blue Data Files distances)
- Travel to Drum : 2 days (Dr Kureha said that the illness lasts 5 days and that she still have 2 days : that means she was on his third day)
- Travel to Alabasta : 5 days (said in the manga)
- Travel to Water Seven : 3 days (said in the manga)
- Travel to Thriller Back : 5 days (distances)
- Travel to Shabondy Islands : 4 days (it is said a few days in the manga)
- Travel to Amazon Lily : 1 day - a daytime and a night - (Nyon said that the tenryubito incident happened two days ago)
- Travel to Impel Down : 4,5 days (said in the manga)

 

[Black Lagoon]

Re: One Piece 559 Discussion/560 Predictions

The time of the travel between the different islands is calculated too. For me, it seems fine.

Just some examples of the analysis about the time on the sea :
- Travel to the Baratie : 2 days (said that the flag has been put two days ago)
- Travel to Arlong Park : 4 days (the Blue Data Files shows that the distance between Baratie/Arlong Park is twice the distance between Syrup/Baratie)
- Travel to Logue Town : 6 days (Blue Data Files distances)
- Travel to Drum : 2 days (Dr Kureha said that the illness lasts 5 days and that she still have 2 days : that means she was on his third day)
- Travel to Alabasta : 5 days (said in the manga)
- Travel to Water Seven : 3 days (said in the manga)
- Travel to Thriller Back : 5 days (distances)
- Travel to Shabondy Islands : 4 days (it is said a few days in the manga)
- Travel to Amazon Lily : 1 day - a daytime and a night - (Nyon said that the tenryubito incident happened two days ago)
- Travel to Impel Down : 4,5 days (said in the manga)

Agree, it's just hard to believe that's since August 4, 1997 till now ... only been three or four months

 

[elitefox]

Re: One Piece 559 Discussion/560 Predictions

Agree, it's just hard to believe that's since August 4, 1997 till now ... only been three or four months

how bout the sea travel, seems to me its don't take just hours but days to get from on island to another

 

[Black Lagoon]

Re: One Piece 559 Discussion/560 Predictions

how bout the sea travel, seems to me its don't take just hours but days to get from on island to another

I know, that's what I said above, @ Lord Rayleigh's analysis says it's been 90,5 days (3 month) and I find it very likely, although IMO some days are missing, so 4 month is may last answer.