One Piece Mega Convo Thread, the 2nd Chapter

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^ Alright ... Alright :tem

Hey, just a question ... does someone like Brook's sense of humor? xD I like the poor guy, but come on, panties ... panties and always panties + the Skull Jokes :grin
I guess he has that stupid sense of humor because he went mad after so many years alone on his ship. :tem
i think the funniest thing about brook is that he makes luffy burst out laughing with the dummest jokes. which i happen to find hilarious :P
luffys sense of humor = best
 

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Hey, just a question ... does someone like Brook's sense of humor? xD I like the poor guy, but come on, panties ... panties and always panties + the Skull Jokes :grin
I guess he has that stupid sense of humor because he went mad after so many years alone on his ship. :tem
Plus he's 88 years old. BTW, in the German anime the panty jokes have been censored to ... silken ankle socks. You want to switch to that kind of "jokes"? ;)

I actually like the panty jokes :nosebleed but am a bit disappointed in those skull jokes since they're a bit too obvious like Luffy asking some strange person whether or not he/she/it can poop. :sarc Hopefully the current events put an end to the latter jokes.
 
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Personally I like the Skull Jokes :amuse
 

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its not HAHAHAH funny, but they are amusing.
 
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Theory: Since haki is the power to neglect devil fruit powers, advanced haki users can neglect their devil fruit power to be able to swim.

Discuss.
 

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I dont think so either. It goes against the entire DF concept.

P.S. you two have the SIMILAR avatars, hehehehe
 

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Maybe it's just me, but I never thought haki "nullifies" the DF ability. It can counter it, meaning a haki-imbued punch works on a logia body like a normal punch would work on a normal one.

Blackbeard is the only one who can actually nullify DF powers, make them inactive.

So no, since logia users can't nullify others' powers with haki, they can't do it to their own either. But again, I might have gotten the wrong impression of the whole thing.
 

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Re: One Piece 574 Discussion / 575 Prediction

If luffy faints i will stop reading one piece.

900% chance he will go beserk like no one has ever seen.
i don`t really think he`s gone go beserk , he is too weak for the others , ofcourse he lost much energy during the impel prison and here also but , also if would have is energy he wouldnt have a chance against akainu or the others admirals , he is still to weak , i think this chapter is too show luffy he cann not save anyone if he doesent evolve , ofcourse luffy has haki but if he doesnt know how to use it , it will only costs his life , i mean if he could control his haki he wouldnt lose 10 years of his life in Impel down .
Luffy has to evolve if he wanna be the king of the pirates . no doubt about that .
 

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Theory: Since haki is the power to neglect devil fruit powers, advanced haki users can neglect their devil fruit power to be able to swim.

Discuss.
for the sake of swiming it would be a great idea but if you said counter the effect of kairoseki cuffs it would not be great but reasonable .
 

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Theory: Since haki is the power to neglect devil fruit powers, advanced haki users can neglect their devil fruit power to be able to swim.

Discuss.
Maybe a devilfruit-user as a choice when using haki. Maybe devilfruit-user can't use Haki without canceling its own powers... And so it would live devil-haki users with a choice: devil power fruit or haki...
 

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>Yeah, you're right... I didn't remember that fight... Sorry...
 

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Maybe, but in ch.19 P.12 they was talking about leaving the Roger crew and 2nd thing if Buggy was with Roger crew till the end he will know about Skypiea and he will not waste his time searching for Captain John's treasure.
Good find, but I guess it's pretty obvious that they were talking about their future I mean when they are ready Remember Rayleigh's word (they were just apprentices) as for Skypiea Buggy could have joined the crew after Roger's trip there.
 

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Re: One Piece 575 Discussion / 576 Prediction

wow , saying that mihawk couldnt take down jozu means that they actually fought . one ineffective slash doesnt indicate anything but saying who's close to who i'd say shanks is close to mihawk
Look people. I also think Mihawk is a cool character, but the denial is getting a bit heavy here. Mihawk was shown outright as almost exactly equal to WB captain #5, Vista, and the rankings definitely seem to indicate overall fighting ability, i.e. originally two steps lower than Joz.

He also stated that he wanted to test just how vast a power gap there is between himself and WB when doing that "world's strongest slash", i.e. not holding back and considerably lower than either Whitebeard or Shanks, and yes, beyond being ranked higher than Vista, Joz really did appear as more than a match for him there. Even if the power of Mihawk's full-power swings should vary from time to time like for everyone else, this is all that we really have to go on.

From this arc we know that Kizaru is either equal to or superior to Marco; who seems roughly equal to Akainu; who is stronger than Ace; who is equal to Aokiji; who is stronger than Joz; who is stronger than Mihawk; who is equal to Vista. Jinbei either equal or slightly below Ace, and Blackbeard a little stronger than Ace. With Whitebeard stronger than all of them, and Shanks the only guy we've seen almost able to match him, but Garp may be up there as well. All of which depends on who they are fighting of course, but we're still given some rough gauges to go on. Just take them for what they are and move on.

If you wish you could simply see Mihawk as one of the world's most skilled swordsmen, along with Vista and Shiryuu, but that some other characters may outpower him sufficiently to get beyond that, or have logia abilities he has a hard time to counter, or similar.
 
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Re: One Piece 575 Discussion / 576 Prediction

with all my respects to you but thats Superficial reading the clash doesnt mean anything againg you make a statement like they actually fought , shanks is a sworsman it was clear since he had been dueling with mihawk who is also a sworsman , however if hawkeyes is called the best then its probably true .
I never said Mihawk wasnt the strongest swordsman. Being the strongest Swordsman doesnt mean he is stronger than Shanks just because Shanks uses a sword. How does that clash between WB and Shanks mean nothing? Shanks and WB clashed weapons and the sky was physically split because they were dead even and Shanks has the disadvantage of using a single arm. Shanks is so strong that most of Whitebeards gets KOed in his presence, I've never seen Mihawk pull something like this off.


http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/434/05/

If Shanks just uses a sword he would probably lose (due to having one arm mostly as Hawkeyes said) but how do you know he ain't got a devilfruit or cant just Haki stomp Mihawk? I'm going to say Shanks takes this via powerscaling. He'll be making an appearance soon and you'll see why he has the Yonkou status like Whitebeard has.

Look people. I also think Mihawk is a cool character, but the denial is getting a bit heavy here. Mihawk was shown outright as almost exactly equal to WB captain #5, Vista, and the rankings definitely seem to indicate overall fighting ability, i.e. two (originally three) steps lower than Joz.
Yeah, the denial is getting deep. I'd say Mihawk has some work to do if he wants to be Yonkou level. Theres a reason why there are only four...well three Yonkou now assuming WB kicks the bucket in the next few chapters.
 
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Re: One Piece 575 Discussion / 576 Prediction

Oh so now one or two exchanges (meant or not) determine who is stronger than who?

Well that should please Mr.1, he was stronger than Mihawk during one page.

And I guess Akainu was stronger than Whitebeard until the last chapter and since Kizaru also shot him but without taking damages, he is stronger than him but wait I have a trap card called "he is an admiral and since Whitebeard kicked one he is no match".

God, Luffy was able to dodge Mihawk so he must be stronger AND at what Oda call "shichibukai level" but... didn't he also beat Moria who was on par with Kaidou? So he must ALSO be at what Oda as stated "yonkou level".

Hell yeah! :beer
 

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Re: One Piece 575 Discussion / 576 Prediction

Look, we're shown outright that Vista is almost exactly equal to Mihawk. They had a quite lengthy off-page confrontation that ended in a draw. We also know that Vista is ranked lower than Joz in the WB pirates internal power scale, and that Mihawk's personal test of his power against the "world's strongest man" didn't even scratch Joz, which is a very large shown disadvantage regardless of confrontation length.

Does this mean that Mihawk wouldn't be better suited against, say opponents that need more speed and precision than Joz can provide, and attack from a long distance? No definitely not. That different abilities match differently against each other is pretty obvious, but anything beyond what we've been shown outright as a _general_ gauge (i.e. Mihawk has a clear disadvantage against Joz, and likely much more so against WB himself) is heavy speculation, favourism, and denial territory.

As for Moria, he was much fitter and less lazy in his early days, and he was defeated, and his crew annihilated by Kaidou. In fact he was even left traumatised by the event. Not exactly an even battle going by his own words rather than his reputation. Luffy was also clearly outmatched against Mihawk, as a single attack might kill him, but was swift enough to dodge, which is impressive in itself.

I also came to think of a Haki question. Joz was able to hit Crocodile as a normal opponent, so he seems to be a haki user just like Marco and Vista, but how does that work for distanced attacks like Mihawk's or Whitebeards's air-gash swings? Can haki-users only affect logias through direct body attacks?
 
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Re: One Piece 575 Discussion / 576 Prediction

Look ... but Garp may be up there as well. All of which depends on who they are fighting of course, but we're still given some rough gauges to go on. Just take them for what they are and move on.
.... similar.
That one bold comment made all your long argument fail.
Firstly there is a difference between a sword slash shockwave and a real encounter with sword vs sword. Oda showing Mihawk in his neutral attitude, not really caring about the either side, should have showed you, that he has not gone on 100% all the time. His negligible comment about Vista has not really mentioned him being totally equal, just that he is a good swordsman. Here: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/562/11/ he hints to his next step, finishing of Vista because he has to take a postion between the shafot and the WB pirates, that he has to end the play. Or does it seem like something different?
His simple slash trying to cut Luffy with his sword split the whole iceberg. http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/561/06-07/

All I'm trying to say, that Mihawk is not < Vista, but one of the top 3 or 5 swords fighters of the world. Garp is clearly as strong as any of the admirals or else Oda would not have shown him as such in the Strong World chapter. How can you even judge their power based on max 10. panels... ? We would have to see them fight more than once, against different characters to be able to do it right.

PS: THERE ARE NO CLEAR POWER LEVELS IN ONE PIECE!
 

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Re: One Piece 575 Discussion / 576 Prediction

Oh so now one or two exchanges (meant or not) determine who is stronger than who?

Well that should please Mr.1, he was stronger than Mihawk during one page.

And I guess Akainu was stronger than Whitebeard until the last chapter and since Kizaru also shot him but without taking damages, he is stronger than him but wait I have a trap card called "he is an admiral and since Whitebeard kicked one he is no match".

God, Luffy was able to dodge Mihawk so he must be stronger AND at what Oda call "shichibukai level" but... didn't he also beat Moria who was on par with Kaidou? So he must ALSO be at what Oda as stated "yonkou level".

Hell yeah! :beer
Moria also lost his entire crew to Kaidou eventually so fighting evenly with him still wasnt enough. Current Kaidou would stomp Moria badly just because of the yonkou factor.
 
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