One Piece Power Level Discussion Thread

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1. Shanks v Mihawk
2. Hand to hand fighters > Swordsmen
3. Zoro > Luffy
4. Zoro v Sanji
5. Is Smoker a top 30 character?
6. Mihawk's rank within the story
7. Law having CoC currently.
8. Katakuri > Kaido/Luffy/Etc.

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[Ricko]

Luffy didn't need saving most moments except when G4 time limit which make sense. Luffy can fight on his own as shown in this chapter.

So G4 limit make sense... But Tanking a double attack of Yonkou is not... Or you have bad faith or you like to troll (or the 2 )

Zoro help Luffy first time

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A second time

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And third time

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Without counting the 2 times were Luffy was out after G4...

You can't give argument against Zoro without taking the whole fight, and just choose moment as it please you.
That not a discussion it's just blind talk.

For me the Supernova comparison is stupid, Law, Kidd and Zoro are on egal ground at the moment, Luffy is above for the moment undoubtly.
Even if Kidd have shown less for the moment, he got high potential who will release during his fight against Big Mom (I hope).
Zoro have shown most power and effective attack at the moment, he still have a new gap to grow with CoC.
Law is the best support, but his best feat are not in 1v1 situation... For the moment he's just an annoying hindrance for Kaido, not an even an opponent...

For Jimbei, I doubt he's on YC1 level... He got really nice feat against Big mom, but everyone did the same...
He's on the peak of his strong, I see more the rivalty about him and Sanji (in Sanji mind) than against Zoro.
The latter had surpassed the fishman in this chapter, they can't be see in equal ground !
Jimbei couldn't touch Akainu... Zoro wounded a Yonkou... You can't compare them...

 

[M3J]

Lol no.

wow what a compelling argument, really won me over

shame manga would show differently though

 

[Hibari Kyoya]

I mean team fight doesn't mean he can solo Kaido and just stating situation at hand about what is going on. We saw Enma being highlight within his Ashura. You doubting it's not playing a role at all when Big Mom and Kaido talks about it and Zoro even stats on it's own abilities? It's not headcannon when you see it there.

Headcannon to say Law has COC too? The same guy who injured Kaido and got Big Mom out away from battlefield. The man who has 'D,' in his name isn't an COC user? Of all talks to say is 'headcannon' my statement, this got be one of most illogical I ever hear if you think Law is not worthy or doesn't have COC himself when he been pushed as he is and being major rival wo Luffy and Kidd who are also COC users too.

Hibari, try again when you want to go after someone on their talk. Of anything you could go on, this is most illogical statement I hear especially doubting Law doesn't have COC at all. There been evidence, but of course your one of the few to ignore that out of having favorite character that you want make him better than even those who were doing work in this chapter like Law saving Zoro twice. I have feeling you even believe Zoro over Luffy just because too.

So if you have a .D in your name that means you have CoC? Of the five living members, there is one with CoC (Luffy). And if you include deceased members that goes up to three out of ten. I grant you, it's higher than what I would expect in the general population, but it is still massive headcannon to say "Initial D = CoC". You are just making assumptions. Just like you're making assumptions about what characters I like. Zoro isn't my favourite character, and I think Luffy would edge out Zoro in a fight due to his more advanced CoO & CoC...so, try again?

 

[King Moe]

So G4 limit make sense... But Tanking a double attack of Yonkou is not... Or you have bad faith or you like to troll (or the 2 )

Zoro help Luffy first time

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A second time

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And third time

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Without counting the 2 times were Luffy was out after G4...

You can't give argument against Zoro without taking the whole fight, and just choose moment as it please you.
That not a discussion it's just blind talk.

For me the Supernova comparison is stupid, Law, Kidd and Zoro are on egal ground at the moment, Luffy is above for the moment undoubtly.
Even if Kidd have shown less for the moment, he got high potential who will release during his fight against Big Mom (I hope).
Zoro have shown most power and effective attack at the moment, he still have a new gap to grow with CoC.
Law is the best support, but his best feat are not in 1v1 situation... For the moment he's just an annoying hindrance for Kaido, not an even an opponent...

For Jimbei, I doubt he's on YC1 level... He got really nice feat against Big mom, but everyone did the same...
He's on the peak of his strong, I see more the rivalty about him and Sanji (in Sanji mind) than against Zoro.
The latter had surpassed the fishman in this chapter, they can't be see in equal ground !
Jimbei couldn't touch Akainu... Zoro wounded a Yonkou... You can't compare them...

Only time I can give you is when G4 on it's time limit. Though rest is more Zoro doing it without Luffy really being concern as he is capable of dodging and blocking attacks on his own especially he wasn't much worry on Homies coming at him.

Nothing blind or biased, just stating the truth to you. It's blind to say no one else like Kidd and Law can't harm Zoro or haven't shown feats better than him just like Luffy.

Nah, Kidd and Law are active while Zoro is inactive. Zoro is close, but there is a gap between them as much there is a gap with Luffy. Plus your ignoring also factor that they are still around with Kidd and Killer fighting Big Mom and Law can come back up there to continue fighting. That give them more on why they are stronger despite what they been through and even tanking attacks from Yonkos.

Zoro's attack wouldn't say is most powerful when I seen others that actually harm Yonko more being Kidd able to repel Big Mom with ease and send her flying and Law did attack Kaido in recent chapter and made him bleed to cough up blood. You shouldn't underestimate them thinking they haven't been doing work as much or more than Zoro. Also honestly they all support each other in the fight, no one was better, but maybe Luffy with bit more on his side on doing a bit more damage.

Sanji and Jimbei are YC lvl, them fighting with Big Mom prior shows that they would have give support same way as the rest would do. There is no rivalry between compare to rivalry between Zoro and Sanji. Now your forcing something that isn't there. I don't mind to think Zoro can be stronger than Jimbei, but it's not really huge gap as there still very close to one another and Sanji too.

What you using past arc on Jimbei? He gotten stronger since then and was able to fight off Big Mom. Also Zoro isn't only one to get through Kaido's scales like rest did. I wouldn't use that as evidence there. They can compare especially certain rest could come up there to support Luffy given he will need another break when fighting Kaido. I can see Sanji and Jimbei to come up to fight as one of the certain rest to come up there.

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So if you have a .D in your name that means you have CoC? Of the five living members, there is one with CoC (Luffy). And if you include deceased members that goes up to three out of ten. I grant you, it's higher than what I would expect in the general population, but it is still massive headcannon to say "Initial D = CoC". You are just making assumptions. Just like you're making assumptions about what characters I like. Zoro isn't my favourite character, and I think Luffy would edge out Zoro in a fight due to his more advanced CoO & CoC...so, try again?

Imagine being a 'D'. and you don't think one will have COC on them after what Law been through that it make most sense on him having it especially him wanting to be Pirate King. What you mean by that? You don't think Garp, Dragon, and Blackbeard as well won't have COC either? Lmao if you really believe that then you don't really know what and who COC really fits on. It already been stated Dragon has it or heavily implied given Luffy's COC is expected from being Dragon's son. Garp has it on him for sure as you can't fight with Roger, Whitebeard, Shiki, etc.. and not expected to have COC when they do especially now learning COC add more to your attacks. Blackbeard is kinda a given for him given what he is becoming. Thinking he isn't COC user either, just doesn't make sense at all and given he be fighting Luffy in the future, they will be clashes of their respective COC.

It's no headcannon, it is one of the most guarantee traits to know who has COC as many of them whether active or inactive have gotten COC in their bodies. If you don't want to believe it, that is up to you. Though thinking neither of ones like I mention above don't have it in them already not going to workout with you in future when we see how they fight more.

I mean Luffy got huge gap over Zoro. He doesn't have power like Luffy does who is able to hurt Kaido just in his Base Form. The huge gap still theirs as it's still Luffy the 'Yonko' while Zoro, Sanji, and Jimbei are his Yonko Commanders.

 

[Lord Traffy Law]

Interesting enough laws new attack implies it might have been armament haki , law might have a technique similar to what the admirals did at marineford
And his injection shot is much much stronger seeing as it hurt kaido and the effect is much more explosive than when he used it against doflamingo


And he’s still conscious and probably still able to fight and Br

 

[King Moe]

Interesting enough laws new attack implies it might have been armament haki , law might have a technique similar to what the admirals did at marineford
And his injection shot is much much stronger seeing as it hurt kaido and the effect is much more explosive than when he used it against doflamingo


And he’s still conscious and probably still able to fight and Br

Do you think Law has COC btw?

 

[Hibari Kyoya]

Do you think Law has COC btw?

There's a huge difference between "I think he might have it... just a hunch" and "I know he has it because he's a D". You have no evidence, not even the most small hints...you're just making assumptions, based on weak theories and correlations.

EDIT, oh, and show me where it's stated that Law's goal is to become Pirate King? As far as I know his goal was to defeat Doflamingo and defeat Kaidou. That's all that's been stated.

 

[albertwv]

Thank you at least you don't say Zoro over Luffy because he is when he isn't. Kidd and Law are above him as it is feat to able to make Kaido bleed and stab through his neck like that by Law and Kidd tanking on Big Mom's punch and then repelling her while still being active. That are big feats over Zoro who got first hit by Kaido and didn't tank it and got knockout. He actually got hit with Law with same attack and Law still tank it and is active too. Huge gap between Luffy and Zoro while not really with Sanji and Jimbei as yes Sanji and Jimbei would be support just like Zoro in fighting Yonkos. They blocked and tank Big Mom's attack early. They shouldn't be underestimated and Both have means to harm Kaido given fire and water they can use on him.

He got one-shot and would have die from that attack from Yonkos if it wasn't from Law again being so fast he got everyone away from there. I give credit on him attempting, but it doesn't remove he would have die if he stood there. Zoro is standing due to being saved before being knockout though. That attack or Kaido's attack would have knock him out regardless. Law took same attack and still tank it though. On physical strength we can debate on that, but overall Kidd and Law are more over Zoro. That is a fact.

Of course now Zoro can beat Doflamingo, but we stating Zoro from back then would lose. he wasn't beating Zoro.

Apoo show many feats and even tanked attacks in 2 vs 1 especially Hybrid Drake and Enma Zoro using his Shison son and still back to fighting. Apoo deserve to be YC lvl when he is still fighting even now. Plus his sound DF still gave trouble to Luffy and Zoro. Not to say they can't beat him (Well still debatable if Zoro can on his own), but he is not someone to underestimate when we haven't seen his full power yet at all.

But Kid or Law have not blocked (even if its for 1 second) an attack like the Combo attack nor have they scarred Kaido or BM. If anything I will agree Zolo is on the same level of Kid and Law but higher than Sanji. Yes Zolo would have died from the attack, I acknowledge that but it still is a great feat better than any other feat in Wano. aside from Luffy's.

Apoo was able to block both Zolo and Drake's swords only once but soon after Zolo one-shotted him. There was a theory going on that thanks Marcos healing ability/fire Marco healed Apoo after getting sliced by Zolo. Either way Apoo is no challenge to Zolo.

I hate how you use your headcannon to justify that Law has COC. There is a huge possibility that he might given his circumstances. I dont doubt Law may develop it in the future but as of Chapter 1010 there is no physical proof that from Oda that Law has COC so STOP saying he does.
That goes for Dragon and Garp as well. Yes they are extremely powerful foes but UNTIL Oda mentions that they have it do NOT claim they do.
I also believe they might have it 99% sure but im not going to claim it as a fact until proven.

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There's a huge difference between "I think he might have it... just a hunch" and "I know he has it because he's a D". You have no evidence, not even the most small hints...you're just making assumptions, based on weak theories and correlations.

THANK YOU!!!!

 

[hokageji]

what are the chances that the injection shot was more than just damage... Law is a doctor, so could he have inflicted some sort of drug or poison into Kaido?

The easiest explanation would be Kaido hallucinating, since there's no way Zoro could get CoC, let alone put it in the swords.... (baiting zorofans).....

But seriously, why would he call that an injection shot?

 

[neomaster121]

To the guy arguing sanji = zoro sounds like you're still on arlong park arc.

Zoro saved Luffy 3 times plus kept him alive for 10mins while Luffy recovered his haki
Cut kaido multiple times
Blocked and delayed the strongest attack ever seen in one piece history.
Took on big mum attack head on


If zoro hadn't done these things Luffy law Kidd and killer would be dead.

Luffy + Zoro (full strength) could 1v1 kaido

 

[Pirate Queen]

Post Panties seeing Brook > Broken Bones Zoro

Accurate or nah?

 

[King Moe]

To the guy arguing sanji = zoro sounds like you're still on arlong park arc.

Zoro saved Luffy 3 times plus kept him alive for 10mins while Luffy recovered his haki
Cut kaido multiple times
Blocked and delayed the strongest attack ever seen in one piece history.
Took on big mum attack head on


If zoro hadn't done these things Luffy law Kidd and killer would be dead.

Luffy + Zoro (full strength) could 1v1 kaido

Nah, arguing from Wano on what I see especially to know team fights doesn't mean you can beat someone in solo fight. Zoro won't beat Kaido in one on one fight especially given how Law was helping him in dodging and getting near him as he lack other stats.

I would say Luffy as well won't until seeing now he has Adv. COC now, so I can start to see him 1 on 1 Kaido more, but wouldn't say same on Zoro. Gap is too big there.

I mean damaging Full Zoan Kaido is not much feat given Scabbards cut Kaido and still got defeated. I can give Hybrid, but we know cut was cause Enma can get into the scales.

You don't block something in second and need to be saved. That is bad logic there to use that and Yonkos wasn't even using full power in that attack.

I mean not really her trying given she has yet to go all out.

Zoro is YC lvl, but he isn't on level to figth off Yonkos on 1 on 1. That is true. You can give credit, but don't overhype him to another level he isn't.

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There's a huge difference between "I think he might have it... just a hunch" and "I know he has it because he's a D". You have no evidence, not even the most small hints...you're just making assumptions, based on weak theories and correlations.

EDIT, oh, and show me where it's stated that Law's goal is to become Pirate King? As far as I know his goal was to defeat Doflamingo and defeat Kaidou. That's all that's been stated.

He going to have it as much as Garp, Dragon, and Blackbeard will have it. Just because it hasn't been shown or announced, it's not hard to look at heavily implied to know who has COC. Law have traits to be COC user and he does want to be PK. His crew vouched that on him just because he was on revenge goal on Doflamingo doesn't mean he doesn't want to be PK. Why else would he compete with Luffy and Kidd from what we seen. You got learn to understand what Oda set on than them verbally stating they will use 'COC' to know who has it or not.

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But Kid or Law have not blocked (even if its for 1 second) an attack like the Combo attack nor have they scarred Kaido or BM. If anything I will agree Zolo is on the same level of Kid and Law but higher than Sanji. Yes Zolo would have died from the attack, I acknowledge that but it still is a great feat better than any other feat in Wano. aside from Luffy's.

Apoo was able to block both Zolo and Drake's swords only once but soon after Zolo one-shotted him. There was a theory going on that thanks Marcos healing ability/fire Marco healed Apoo after getting sliced by Zolo. Either way Apoo is no challenge to Zolo.

I hate how you use your headcannon to justify that Law has COC. There is a huge possibility that he might given his circumstances. I dont doubt Law may develop it in the future but as of Chapter 1010 there is no physical proof that from Oda that Law has COC so STOP saying he does.
That goes for Dragon and Garp as well. Yes they are extremely powerful foes but UNTIL Oda mentions that they have it do NOT claim they do.
I also believe they might have it 99% sure but im not going to claim it as a fact until proven.

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THANK YOU!!!!

You don't block if it was going to kill you and you had to be saved being by Law who stated his condition and Zoro responded on 'Barely' after being saved. Thinking Zoro could tank or survive the attack if he stood there is headcannon, not canon. Also Zoro with Enma never scarred Big Mom. When did he? I congratz he got it with Kaido, but we can see how much he tanked it and defeated Zoro easily afterwards while Law got hit by same attack and tank it. Also 'scar excuse' doesn't hold up as by that logic, it means Luffy has done thing to Kaido given he didn't scar him, but does that mean he isn't hurting him more though? No and same can be said for certain others like Kidd and Law. Idk if they will scar Kaido or not, but doesn't mean they haven't been doing damage to him either when they are. Also Kidd and Law I will say are stronger than Sanji, but Zoro is still in same tier as with him along with Jimbei and Killer.

Not once, many times as it was back and forth he was blocking them and at same type. It was 2 vs 1 in that fight, not 1 on 1. That isn't much a feat on Zoro getting hit on when someone is hold down by Hybrid Drake. Plus Apoo tanked Shison son and came back fighting like damage didn't do anything to him in next page. Macro didn't heal Apoo at all. Macro know where to aimed his flames and no one on enemy side got flames on them at all. That is headcannon, Apoo tanked the attack and was fine. That is big feat to tank one of Zoro's best attacks.

After what Law been through, you doubt he won't get COC because you few think so? Logic and hints are there. It's dumb to not acknowledge him not having it when he proven himself why he will get it. He could already have it on him already just like Kidd who we haven't seen his COC, but it's stated he does have it. Could make sense why their attacks could be affecting the Yonkos like his Injection Shot did onto Kaido who coughed up blood after that.

You don't need someone to hold your hand to say 'Oh I am going to use COC' to know they have COC. They are either stated another way to know or you see heavily implied hints to. Thinking also Dragon and Garp won't have it doesn't make sense given their hype and what stated about them by many characters. Got put pieces together than have someone do it for you which is obvious on it.

 

[Lord Traffy Law]

To the guy arguing sanji = zoro sounds like you're still on arlong park arc.

Zoro saved Luffy 3 times plus kept him alive for 10mins while Luffy recovered his haki
Cut kaido multiple times
Blocked and delayed the strongest attack ever seen in one piece history.
Took on big mum attack head on


If zoro hadn't done these things Luffy law Kidd and killer would be dead.

Luffy + Zoro (full strength) could 1v1 kaido

Luffy and Zoro full strength cannot one v one kaido
He’s literally beaten them both in this fight and they got bailed out by law and each other
As well as kidd law and the scabbards doing damage
Like he’s flat out knocked out luffy and Zoro
He’s still stronger than them
They are full strength and entered this fight even fresher than kaido


And nah I’m with moe I don’t think Zoro is stronger than law or kidd necessarily
We gonna see how kidd and killer perform against big mum

this idea that laws only role has been support is HILARIOUS, they've ALL been fighting and trading blows with the yonkou , get the image of dressora law outta ya heads , he's way stronger than he was then and can defeat doffy now , law is almost the Deuteragonist of the new world , after luffy the story focus has been on him , as a foilto luffy , and now the focus is gonna up again as he is the one that will full on tackle the mystery of the D.clan along with robin, law is dumb strong and tough, his issue more so has been dealing damage and as we can see he can hurt the yonkou now and block their attacks and be fine ( the kanji of the curtain is similar to armamnet so he's using his fruit+haki even more)

heck he's still conscious and fine after taking a thunder bagau and would have got up and continued fighting but luffy said he's got this , zoro is out foe the count but he's done more than enough

 

[LaGOAT]

Luffy and Zoro full strength cannot one v one kaido
He’s literally beaten them both in this fight and they got bailed out by law and each other
As well as kidd law and the scabbards doing damage
Like he’s flat out knocked out luffy and Zoro
He’s still stronger than them
They are full strength and entered this fight even fresher than kaido


And nah I’m with moe I don’t think Zoro is stronger than law or kidd necessarily
We gonna see how kidd and killer perform against big mum

The problem isn’t that might be true but we are talking about as for RIGHT NOW as of chapter 1010 zoro feats has been more impressive than kidd and law.

 

[Lord Traffy Law]

The problem isn’t that might be true but we are talking about as for RIGHT NOW as of chapter 1010 zoro feats has been more impressive than kidd and law.

Zoro has gone all out and used up all his strength
He’s done
Kidd and law are still okay and still have plenty more to give
I would say his feats are amazing but you can’t oh Zoro is stronger when the former two haven’t displayed their full powers and best attacks yet , especially kidd ( it’s like saying the scabbards had proven superiority because they gave it their all and slashed kaido before Zoro started going all out , kidd and law haven’t yet shown their best best moves and attacks )

 

[Nie Li]

Zoro has gone all out and used up all his strength
He’s done
Kidd and law are still okay and still have plenty more to give
I would say his feats are amazing but you can’t oh Zoro is stronger when the former two haven’t displayed their full powers and best attacks yet , especially kidd ( it’s like saying the scabbards had proven superiority because they gave it their all and slashed kaido before Zoro started going all out , kidd and law haven’t yet shown their best best moves and attacks )

Its not that Kid hasn't yet matched Zoro 's Asura' s feat. He still hasn't matched Zoro' s tatsumaki's feat.

 

[albertwv]

Im done arguing with Moe, he's exactly like Nik but also the opposite.

For the record, no one here thinks that Zolo can 1v1 any Yonko. Kid and Law didnt face that attack head on, as we can see Zolo manage to block the attack but was still severely damaged by it. Kid or Law have not gotten close to what Zolo has done to Kaido. Law got him good with Injection Shot, but Kaido just said his DF was tricky while he praised Zolo's final attack saying he was going to be scarred.

I dont understand how people are downplaying Zolo after he scarred Kaido, while Oden was the only to scar Kaido before. Before anyone says its thanks to Enma that Zolo has gotten this far, then should also downplay Oden when he wielded Enma and scarred Kaido? It wasnt Oden who scarred Kaido but rather thanks to Enma. You see how stupid that sounds.

 

[Ramen]

Whether it be here or Worstgen, Moe vs the world literally

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I would say his feats are amazing but you can’t oh Zoro is stronger when the former two haven’t displayed their full powers and best attacks yet , especially kidd ( it’s like saying the scabbards had proven superiority because they gave it their all and slashed kaido before Zoro started going all out , kidd and law haven’t yet shown their best best moves and attacks )

Kidd and Law have nothing compared to Zoro. It's been 10 chapters, if they did, Oda would've shown it.

 

[I Am Atomic]

t seriously, why would he call that an injection shot?

It's basically a pin point targeted attack really. I believe the piercing power would be high with that technique.

It's possible he could have injected something, but as a Law fan I don't want him to use any cheap tricks.

Hail Law for PK!

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Whether it be here or Worstgen, Moe vs the world literally

I find it impressive that he holds on. It's fun to read Moe Vs Everyone else

 

[Hibari Kyoya]

He going to have it as much as Garp, Dragon, and Blackbeard will have it. Just because it hasn't been shown or announced, it's not hard to look at heavily implied to know who has COC. Law have traits to be COC user and he does want to be PK. His crew vouched that on him just because he was on revenge goal on Doflamingo doesn't mean he doesn't want to be PK. Why else would he compete with Luffy and Kidd from what we seen. You got learn to understand what Oda set on than them verbally stating they will use 'COC' to know who has it or not.

I'm glad you agree that you have no evidence and just assumptions. Jaguar D Saul had CoC too by your logic, right? And Portgas D Rouge? And every D that has ever lived? Everyone praise King Moe for identifying the first CoC Giant user of the series.

Also I'm still waiting for a single panel of the manga that even hints that Law cares about becoming Pirate King? As I said, his stated goal was to take down Doflamingo and then when he survived that (against his expectation) he wanted to take down Kaidou.