One Piece Power Level Discussion Thread

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1. Shanks v Mihawk
2. Hand to hand fighters > Swordsmen
3. Zoro > Luffy
4. Zoro v Sanji
5. Is Smoker a top 30 character?
6. Mihawk's rank within the story
7. Law having CoC currently.
8. Katakuri > Kaido/Luffy/Etc.

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[LaGOAT]

I am saying something like this.

Ya ur saying jack>cat/dog base on what tho.
Also current luffy is Definitely admiral level at the minimum

 

[McNuss]

Ya ur saying jack>cat/dog base on what tho.

ufffff....I think this is the point where this has to stop

Also current luffy is Definitely admiral level at the minimum

I don't think there is an Admiral Tier. Tier names based on ranks will fall apart the further this story continues.

Pre-Skip Admiral Trio has very good vs Whitebeard feats, to the point that Akainu won his confrontation in the long run. In a Cell games like arena, without Akainu falling down a hole, Whitebeard likely would have been able to continue pummeling Akainu, but the wound that took of half his head was lethal. Akainu and Whitebeard essentially was a draw. Kuzan is Akainu's equal, slightly weaker maybe, especially since losing a leg. Kizaru is a bit of an underachiever but he still did not have problems facing Whitebeard the way Luffy has problems facing Kaido.

Fujitora has mostly been teasers, very hard to judge. Ryukugyu...

In addition, none of them rebuted in fighting action since the reveal of any Advanced Haki mechanic though them having aCoA and aCoO was hinted at Marineford, but then there is aCoC and that is a huge game changer. Without confirmation or deconfirmation going into more details seems silly so I just placed them there and that's it. Can't say anything about how large or small the difference to Luffy is due to lack of feats in the current environment.

 

[Pirate Queen]

Come on guys, let's all chiiiiiill. Everyone but Hancock is trash anyway. Let's just all enjoy the ride.

Naw wha I'm saying???

 

[Rmstorm]

ufffff....I think this is the point where this has to stop


I don't think there is an Admiral Tier. Tier names based on ranks will fall apart the further this story continues.

Pre-Skip Admiral Trio has very good vs Whitebeard feats, to the point that Akainu won his confrontation in the long run. In a Cell games like arena, without Akainu falling down a hole, Whitebeard likely would have been able to continue pummeling Akainu, but the wound that took of half his head was lethal. Akainu and Whitebeard essentially was a draw. Kuzan is Akainu's equal, slightly weaker maybe, especially since losing a leg. Kizaru is a bit of an underachiever but he still did not have problems facing Whitebeard the way Luffy has problems facing Kaido.

Fujitora has mostly been teasers, very hard to judge. Ryukugyu...

In addition, none of them rebuted in fighting action since the reveal of any Advanced Haki mechanic though them having aCoA and aCoO was hinted at Marineford, but then there is aCoC and that is a huge game changer. Without confirmation or deconfirmation going into more details seems silly so I just placed them there and that's it. Can't say anything about how large or small the difference to Luffy is due to lack of feats in the current environment.

Luffy has Zero problems facing Kaido. In fact Kaido could never outright overpower Luffy no matter how hard he tried.

And that was Luffy before Awakening his Devil Fruit. And Kaido IS the Strongeat Creature, but he himself was having trouble overpowering Luffy.

That should tell you how strong Luffy is. Luffy even forced Kaido tonuse Future Sight.

Luffy is overpowered right now and he still has not unlocked the final level of CoC haki, the level that allowr Roger and Shanks to face Whitebeard who had CoC Coating+ OP Devil Fruit.

Luffy will also use this level of CoC to defeat Blackbeard without his devil fruit.

 

[baditz]

Luffy has Zero problems facing Kaido. In fact Kaido could never outright overpower Luffy no matter how hard he tried.

And that was Luffy before Awakening his Devil Fruit. And Kaido IS the Strongeat Creature, but he himself was having trouble overpowering Luffy.

That should tell you how strong Luffy is. Luffy even forced Kaido tonuse Future Sight.

Luffy is overpowered right now and he still has not unlocked the final level of CoC haki, the level that allowr Roger and Shanks to face Whitebeard who had CoC Coating+ OP Devil Fruit.

Luffy will also use this level of CoC to defeat Blackbeard without his devil fruit.

What the hell u a talking about, do u forget Kaido already toss Luffy to ocean before? N the last time Luffy did reach his limit, n that atk not even guranted take down Kaido, meanwhile Kaido already on another fight,,

N for jack vs Inu, normal inu < than Jack,,

 

[LaGOAT]

ufffff....I think this is the point where this has to stop


I don't think there is an Admiral Tier. Tier names based on ranks will fall apart the further this story continues.

Pre-Skip Admiral Trio has very good vs Whitebeard feats, to the point that Akainu won his confrontation in the long run. In a Cell games like arena, without Akainu falling down a hole, Whitebeard likely would have been able to continue pummeling Akainu, but the wound that took of half his head was lethal. Akainu and Whitebeard essentially was a draw. Kuzan is Akainu's equal, slightly weaker maybe, especially since losing a leg. Kizaru is a bit of an underachiever but he still did not have problems facing Whitebeard the way Luffy has problems facing Kaido.

Fujitora has mostly been teasers, very hard to judge. Ryukugyu...

In addition, none of them rebuted in fighting action since the reveal of any Advanced Haki mechanic though them having aCoA and aCoO was hinted at Marineford, but then there is aCoC and that is a huge game changer. Without confirmation or deconfirmation going into more details seems silly so I just placed them there and that's it. Can't say anything about how large or small the difference to Luffy is due to lack of feats in the current environment.

Bro ur confusing ur saying that jack>inu even tho inu clearly beat jack in the manga.

2.I don’t think any1 from the admiral can pull off what kaido is currently doing(except akainu)

 

[XXGenesis]

ufffff....I think this is the point where this has to stop
[\QUOTE]

Agreed; my last comment on this because it’s dragging out now.

If you understand that Akainu isn’t that much stronger than Kuzan.

I think you understand others when it comes to Jack vs Cat/Dog. We don’t need to nitpick post & argue semantics….Base Jack isn’t much stronger than Cat/Dog…..Jack had more time to heal than Dog did & is a Zoan so during their last fight, it makes sense for Jack to be portrayed as stronger. Either Way Sulong form is too much for Jack.

I don't think there is an Admiral Tier. Tier names based on ranks will fall apart the further this story continues.

Why do you think that?
Your power scailing list, is that of names listed in order…..it’s not very organized in the sense of, what’s the difference of level besides…This name is just higher up so he’s stronger

 

[TrueRaiKage]

So with the most resent advancements. It's normally Shonen to find some way to handicap the protagonist after a power up to keep them on the level with the rest of thier team or crew or group or fellowship. Luffy was already head and shoulders above his crew. How will they keep up?...or will thier power levels be severely increased. The cake baker and ole 1 eye both just received huge power ups that got them near luffy. Now what will be the power up and what about the rest of the crew?.......this will redefine the Shonen norms for sure.

 

[McNuss]

Why do you think that?
Your power scailing list, is that of names listed in order…..it’s not very organized in the sense of, what’s the difference of level besides…This name is just higher up so he’s stronger

There is no point in setting up tiers before organizing the characters. That's a fallacy that will only result in something like whale=fish since it lives underwater and has fins. Tiers automatically form itself. Once finished I am going to break it up.

Like normal tierlists look like this:


1. GOD Tier: pRimeBeArd prImeRoGa
2. Yonko Tier: Kaido Big Mom, Shanks, Blackbeard
3. Admiral Tier: Akainu Kizaru Kuzan Fujitora Ryukugyu
4. YC1 King Katakuri Marco Ben Beckman Shiryu
3. YC2 Queen Smoothie
YC3 Cracker Jack

That is not a Tierlist. it is remotely organizing characters by their rank, and half of them don't even have feats. there is nothing to be found out here and it is just pointless. Rankings in each organization all work different and shouldn't be generalized as that only creates trouble fitting those in that have no rank.

What I do, it is very easy to rank characters within a certain organization, it is also easy to rank characters within a single story arc. So I started with ranking the current version of the Straw Hats, and then moved over to the groups of Dressrosa arc since that arc is essentially a tournament arc.

That gave me a grid into which I am slowly filling the characters of WCI and Wano arc, which isn't as easy because many don't really have feats (and in case of the Beast Pirates, we even miss many names). Internally they are still easy to rank from various factors like portrayal, rank, genetics, given tasks, etc.

An example would be Smoothie's twins Cinnamon and Citron. They don't have feats but they are the nonidentical twins of a Sweet Commander, are portrayed as confident and look rather strong, much stronger than the Minister of Love Charlotte Cornstarch. But how do you place such a ranking in context to the rest of the story? Well you have to rank those first that have feats, and that narrows it down.

I am always trying to narrow it down by adding more.

Even if there are hints it is sometimes hard. Vice Admiral Maynard for example. Muste be vastly stronger than Gambia, and must be vastly inferior to Bartolomeo. He is probably the measurement stick for the weakest Vice Admirals, an important placement, but since he is so isolated from anyone else I have no idea currently.

There are many characters that have not even rebuted like most of the Marines. In their context, anyone below VA could have been promoted (and usually that was the case with those that rebuted), so kinda bad right now.

When I am done, I will crunch it into tiers that seem logical. For example, right now, everything from Caesar, Monet to X Drake, Who's Who, Smoker, Niwatori looks very close and comparable, or obviously the Civilians at the bottom which I just haven't compiled yet beyond Dressrosa Arc.

 

[really_jonny]

Mcnuss sees a difference between Jack and the Minks Kings because he makes a very extensive list. My Tier method (the most common) uses few rankings. A character is only above another if he can win easily or to the point of literally playing with the opponent, as Zoro did with King. Zoro facing Katakuri currently, the Candy Pirate would be defeated in an instant if the swordsman fought seriously (no irony).

 

[XXGenesis]

@McNuss damn that’s a lot to respond to. I ask because I personally to also started to think Tier list may be inefficient for One Piece after all the shenanigans Oda has pulled in Wano.

I think honestly the best we could do for One Piece, which I never thought was a very satisfying power scailing form but it works with One Piece: Is Stat Chart/diagram
Ex.1-10 in Power, Speed, Durability, Stamina, Skill, Haki…w/e other stats the fandom think should be added

 

[McNuss]

Kaido, Charlotte Linlin (&Prometheus, Hera & Napoleon), Monkey D. Garp, Sakazuki
Kuzan (&Camel)
Borsalino, Issho
Monkey D. Luffy
Roronoa Zoro, Trafalgar D. Water Law, Yamato
Charlotte Katakuri, Marco
Alber
Magellan (new)
Eustass Kid
Killer, Charlotte Smoothie (new)
Jinbe, Capone Bege (&the Firetank Pirates)
Vinsmoke Sanji, Donquixote Doflamingo
Queen
Jack, Dorry (new), Broggy (new)
Charlotte Cracker
Charlotte Perospero
Scratchmen Apoo, Ulti, Inuarashi, Nekomamushi, Ashura Doji, Kawamatsu
Vergo
Pica
X Drake, Who's Who, Smoker, Niwatori
Franky, Basil Hawkins, Black Maria (&Wanyudo)
Nico Robin, Sasaki
Cavendish (&Farul), Pekoms, Pedro, Shishilian
Brook, Sai, Page One
Charlotte Oven, Charlotte Daifuku
Nami (& Zeus), Elizabello II, Kyros
Monet, Caesar Clown, Nola (new)
Inbi, Fuga, Zanki, Jaki, Goki, Rokki, Nangi, Hatcha, Kunyun, Juki, Laboon (new)
Trebol
Bartolomeo
Diamante, Inazuma (new)
Tony Tony Chopper
Dellinger, Gladius, Senor Pink, Lao G
Bellamy
PX-5, PX-7
Hannyabal (new), Sadi (new)
Hajrudin, Ideo, Blue Gilly, Hack, Jean Ango, Surume, Minotarurus (new), Minozebra (new), Minokoala (new), Minorhinoceros (new), Minochihuahua (new)
Baby 5, Stansen, Road, Goldberg, Gerd, Machvise, Kelly Funk (&Bobby Funk)
Usopp, Chinjao, Buffalo, Albion
Sugar
Leo, Orlumbus
Giolla, Perona (new)
Suleiman, Gambia, Boo, Abdullah, Jeet, Dagama, Tank Lepanto, Riku Doldo III, Mummy, Meadows, Damask, Rolling Logan, Acilia, Spartan, Doughty, Gyro, Paulie (new)
Rebecca, Viola, Nefeltari Vivi (&Karoo)
Dalton (new), Kureha (new), Chaka (new), Pell (new), Braham (new), Kamakiri (new), Gan Fall (&Pierre)(new)
Wapol (new), Shoujou (new), Peeply Lulu (new), Tilestone (new), Yokozuna (new), Charlotte Lola (new), Charlotte Chiffon (new),
Kyuin, Igaram (new), Genbo (new), Zambai (new), Iceburg (&Tyrannosaurus) (new)
Kabu, Bian, Raki (new), Mozu (new), Kiwi (new)
Bomba, Ranpo
Inhel, Cotton, Wicca, Baxcon, Daikon, Flapper, Bobomba, Mauji, Nubon, Pellini, Chao, Eikon, Chicory, Tarara
Hatchan, Masira (new), Conis (&Su) (new)
Mont Blanc Cricket (new), Zeff (new)
Hammond, Kasagoba, Harisenbon, Koza (new)
Demaro Black, Curly Dadan (new)
Columbus, Bariete, Miyagi, Tristan, Monjii
Ucy, Agyo, Uhho
Hera, McKinley (new)
Mr. 9 (new), Miss Monday (new), Kiev (new), Tamagon (new), Risky Brothers (new)
Patty, Carne, Boodle (&Chouchou) (new), Farafra (new), Erik (new), Kokoro (new), Dogra (new), Magra (new), Ripper (new)
Charlotte De-Chat (new), Charlotte Wiro (new), Charlotte Wafers(new) , Charlotte Anglais(new), Rokkaku (new)
Johnny, Yosaku, Mounblutain, Genzo (new)
Disco, Gatz, Gancho, Mansherry, Grabar, Esta, Milo, Aremo Ganmi, Mukkashimi Tower, Tegata Ringana, Shin Detamaruka, Shin Jaiya, Manjaro, Chocolat, Drip, Cocoa, Turco, Hody Jones, Dosun, Zeo, Daruma, Ikaros Much, Hyouzou, Charlotte Anana (new), Charlotte Dolce(new), Charlotte Dragée (new) , Charlotte Normande (new), Woop Slap (new), Makino, (new), Rika (new), Poro (new), Gaimon (new), Sarfunkel (new), Piiman (new), Tamanegi (new), Ninjin (new), Kaya (new), Merry (new), Nako (new), Nojiko (new), Chabo (new), Ipponmatsu (new), Ipponume (new), Kinderella (new), Nefertari Cobra (new), Terracotta (new), Maidy (new), Kappa (new), Toto (new), Amazon (new), Pagaya (new), Shandia Chief (new), Aisa (new), Tonjit (&Shelly) (new), Chimney (&Gonbe) (new), Bimine (new), Marumieta (new), Yamenahare (new)
Mario, Nora Gitsune, Matsuge (new), Cocox (new), Usagihebi (new) Lionbuta (new)

I went through the "From the Decks of the World Cover story and placed most of the characters from there, as well as some others, except for a few, where I think placement is not quite possible (Koushiro, Crocus, Wyper, Bentham, Saldeath, Domino)

What I would like to hear is, where would you place Ivankov and PX-0 in my Tierlist?

--- Double Post Merged, Mar 18, 2022, Original Post Date: Mar 16, 2022 ---

Shirahoshi (&Megalo and all the Sea Kings) (new)
Kaido, Charlotte Linlin (&Prometheus, Hera & Napoleon), Monkey D. Garp, Sakazuki, Shanks (new) Marshall D. Teach (new)
Kuzan (&Camel)
Borsalino, Issho
Silvers Rayleigh (new)
Monkey D. Luffy
Roronoa Zoro, Trafalgar D. Water Law, Yamato
Charlotte Katakuri, Marco
Alber
Magellan
Eustass Kid
Killer, Charlotte Smoothie
Jinbe, Capone Bege (&the Firetank Pirates)
Vinsmoke Sanji, Donquixote Doflamingo
Queen, PX-0 (new)
Jack, Dorry, Broggy
Charlotte Cracker
Charlotte Perospero
Scratchmen Apoo, Ulti, Inuarashi, Nekomamushi, Ashura Doji, Kawamatsu
Vergo, Emporio Ivankov (new)
Pica
X Drake, Who's Who, Smoker, Niwatori
Franky, Basil Hawkins, Black Maria (&Wanyudo)
Nico Robin, Sasaki
Cavendish (&Farul), Pekoms, Pedro, Shishilian
Brook, Sai, Page One
Charlotte Oven, Charlotte Daifuku, Aladine (new)
Nami (& Zeus), Elizabello II, Kyros
Monet, Caesar Clown, Nola
Inbi, Fuga, Zanki, Jaki, Goki, Rokki, Nangi, Hatcha, Kunyun, Juki, Laboon
Trebol
Bartolomeo
Diamante, Inazuma
Tony Tony Chopper
Charlotte Opera (new)
Dellinger, Gladius, Senor Pink, Lao G
Bellamy, Charlotte Counter (new), Charlotte Cadenza (new), Charlotte Cabaletta (new), Charlotte Gala (new)
PX-5, PX-7
Hannyabal, Sadi, Charlotte Mont-d'Or (new), Boa Sandersonia (new), Boa Marygold (new)
Hajrudin, Ideo, Blue Gilly, Hack, Jean Ango, Surume, Minotarurus, Minozebra, Minokoala, Minorhinoceros, Minochihuahua, Bobbin (new)
Baby 5, Stansen, Road, Goldberg, Gerd, Machvise, Kelly Funk (&Bobby Funk), Wadatsumi (new)
Usopp, Chinjao, Buffalo, Albion, Fukaboshi (new)
Sugar, Neptune (&Hoe) (new), Vander Decken IX (new)
Leo, Orlumbus, Ryuboshi (new), Manboshi (new)
Giolla, Perona, Ankoro (new)
Suleiman, Gambia, Boo, Abdullah, Jeet, Dagama, Tank Lepanto, Riku Doldo III, Mummy, Meadows, Damask, Rolling Logan, Acilia, Spartan, Doughty, Gyro, Paulie
Rebecca, Viola, Nefeltari Vivi (&Karoo)
Dalton, Kureha, Chaka, Pell, Braham, Kamakiri, Gan Fall (&Pierre)
Wapol, Shoujou, Peeply Lulu, Tilestone, Yokozuna, Charlotte Lola, Charlotte Chiffon,
Kyuin, Igaram, Genbo, Zambai, Iceburg (&Tyrannosaurus)
Kabu, Bian, Raki, Mozu, Kiwi
Bomba, Ranpo
Inhel, Cotton, Wicca, Baxcon, Daikon, Flapper, Bobomba, Mauji, Nubon, Pellini, Chao, Eikon, Chicory, Tarara
Hatchan, Masira, Conis (&Su)
Mont Blanc Cricket, Zeff
Hammond, Kasagoba, Harisenbon, Koza
Demaro Black, Curly Dadan
Columbus, Bariete, Miyagi, Tristan, Monjii
Ucy, Agyo, Uhho
Hera, McKinley, Minister of the Right (new)
Mr. 9, Miss Monday, Kiev, Tamagon, Risky Brothers
Patty, Carne, Boodle (&Chouchou), Farafra, Erik, Kokoro, Dogra, Magra, Ripper, Minister of the Left (new)
Charlotte De-Chat, Charlotte Wiro, Charlotte Wafers, Charlotte Anglais, Rokkaku
Johnny, Yosaku, Mounblutain, Genzo
Disco, Gatz, Gancho, Mansherry, Grabar, Esta, Milo, Aremo Ganmi, Mukkashimi Tower, Tegata Ringana, Shin Detamaruka, Shin Jaiya, Manjaro, Chocolat, Drip, Cocoa, Turco, Hody Jones, Dosun, Zeo, Daruma, Ikaros Much, Hyouzou, Charlotte Anana, Charlotte Dolce, Charlotte Dragée, Charlotte Normande, Woop Slap, Makino, Rika, Poro, Gaimon, Sarfunkel, Piiman, Tamanegi, Ninjin, Kaya, Merry, Nako, Nojiko, Chabo, Ipponmatsu, Ipponume, Kinderella, Nefertari Cobra, Terracotta, Maidy, Kappa, Toto, Amazon, Pagaya, Shandia Chief, Aisa, Tonjit (&Shelly), Chimney (&Gonbe), Bimine, Marumieta, Yamenahare, Shyarly (new), Camie (&Pappag) (new), Ishilly (new), Kairen (new), Hiramera (new), Seira (new), Mero (new), Lulis (new), Adele (new), Fillonce (new), Sora (new), Octopako (new), Ichika (new), Nika (new), Sanka (new), Yonka (new), Yonka Two(new), Junan (new), Den (new), Maria Napole (new)
Mario, Nora Gitsune, Matsuge, Cocox, Usagihebi, Lionbuta

Updated with Fishman Island characters and some others.

@McNuss damn that’s a lot to respond to. I ask because I personally to also started to think Tier list may be inefficient for One Piece after all the shenanigans Oda has pulled in Wano.

I think honestly the best we could do for One Piece, which I never thought was a very satisfying power scailing form but it works with One Piece: Is Stat Chart/diagram
Ex.1-10 in Power, Speed, Durability, Stamina, Skill, Haki…w/e other stats the fandom think should be added

I don't think that''s possible. First of all, no way a 1-100 scala is enough to comprehend this story, also there is the fact that there is no way of objectively translating images into numbers, and lastly not all stats weigh equally. Mr 3. is smart and a master of stealth, he should have top tier stats in these fields, but he is not a top tier character regardless.

The only way to calculate point values is via a versus chart but even that requires qualitative research and reasoning.

 

[grey matter]

Ex.1-10 in Power, Speed, Durability, Stamina, Skill, Haki…w/e other stats the fandom think should be added

The issue is, it's really hard to account for these.

The advantage of tier based ranking is that we can take Oda's portrayal into account.

 

[roggie]

wasn't jack unable to overpower inu and neko in Zou after 10 days? though they were taking turns they were fighting alone each turn. i put jack slightly above regular inu/neko

 

[XXGenesis]

The issue is, it's really hard to account for these.

The advantage of tier based ranking is that we can take Oda's portrayal into account.

I personally going on record to say I always hated these stats for manga..ex Naruto shit didn’t make any sense in terms of Portrayal.

When I was having this idea B.D.A Law from YouTube made a video using stats for Kidd & Law….Law came out with 3points higher on average, something like 48-Kidd 51-Law. Imagine if we did a Zoro Vs Luffy, I haven’t put any. Number in but Luffy should probably be up by 7 or more points.


I think it can & does work for One Piece. IMO Because Portryal in one piece almost always having some type of caveats during fights. It should be easier to judge someone’s stats from portryal line them up against others to really see who is stronger or just how close two combatants actually are.

Ex. Strenght, Speed, Stamina…..Law/Kidd/Zoro/Luffy all will have different or close numbers…Add in a few more stats that are relative, we will find out answer to our questions much more easier…just my take on it

The problem is going to lie with fans disagreeing on on low or high someone’s stat is. But what’s the difference between that and debating whether where on the commander totem pole does characters like Jimbei, or the scabbards rank

 

[Crimson Ice]

I personally going on record to say I always hated these stats for manga..ex Naruto shit didn’t make any sense in terms of Portrayal.

When I was having this idea B.D.A Law from YouTube made a video using stats for Kidd & Law….Law came out with 3points higher on average, something like 48-Kidd 51-Law. Imagine if we did a Zoro Vs Luffy, I haven’t put any. Number in but Luffy should probably be up by 7 or more points.


I think it can & does work for One Piece. IMO Because Portryal in one piece almost always having some type of caveats during fights. It should be easier to judge someone’s stats from portryal line them up against others to really see who is stronger or just how close two combatants actually are.

Ex. Strenght, Speed, Stamina…..Law/Kidd/Zoro/Luffy all will have different or close numbers…Add in a few more stats that are relative, we will find out answer to our questions much more easier…just my take on it

The problem is going to lie with fans disagreeing on on low or high someone’s stat is. But what’s the difference between that and debating whether where on the commander totem pole does characters like Jimbei, or the scabbards rank

Zoro might lose every category using this type of system.

 

[XXGenesis]

Zoro might lose every category using this type of system.

Depends on who you are talking about…?
I’ll post them later but the numbers I did for Zoro got him 43/60 & I did Luffy’s he had a 51/60….

Luffy’s Haki, durability, Speed, power…Are notably much higher than Zoro’s

While their Stamina, Skill are equal or close. Luffy is in a different league from Zoro at the moment. I suspect when Zoro awakens his next couple of feats he’ll start to close the gap again.

 

[grey matter]

I'll just put my numbers as well.

I actually think Zoro hits harder than Luffy, but he's below Luffy in every other category.

Assuming luffy is 10 in every category. Zoro would be:
Attack power : 11
Durability: 8
CQC/defense: 8
Pure Speed: 4
Attack speed/Blitz speed: 9
Stamina: 7

Conqueror's haki: 3
Armament haki: 9
Observation haki: 5

 

[Crimson Ice]

I'll just put my numbers as well.

I actually think Zoro hits harder than Luffy, but he's below Luffy in every other category.

Assuming luffy is 10 in every category. Zoro would be:
Attack power : 11
Durability: 8
CQC/defense: 8
Pure Speed: 4
Attack speed/Blitz speed: 9
Stamina: 7

Conqueror's haki: 3
Armament haki: 9
Observation haki: 5

Cmon now Grey, Zoro does not hit harder Luffy.

 

[grey matter]

Cmon now Grey, Zoro does not hit harder Luffy.

Debatable IMO.

Beginning of rooftop, it seemed to me like Zoro was hitting harder.

So I assume the same could be the case once both got advanced Conqueror's as well.

Now, an argument could be made that Luffy is a better Conqueror than Zoro, hence advanced Conqueror's provides a bigger boost in attack power to Luffy. Which I agree is true. So things aren't quite clear.

There is also Zoro scarring Kaido with his initial burst of advanced Conqueror's haki. Current Zoro with should be able to hit harder

I suppose we can agree that they're close in attack power?