One Piece Ranking System...

[DARK]

I still don't know why Hancock is at Level 8.

You seem to be suggesting that she is at the same league as Mihawk or Blackbeard, that she is able to defeat the likes of Magellan/Enel/Ace in battle (even with Haki).

I assume you placed her this high because of her Mero Mero abilities. It doesn't work on everybody and those that are either battle tested or distracted through pain can resist it. For now, I would say that it's better to put her at Level 7.5.

She was able to defeat Smoker with her Kuja haki, but we haven't seen her fight against the other Shichibukai or even the likes of Magellan and Shiryuu. From what we have seen of her skill, Hancock seems to be inferior to the other Shichibukai. I don't think that she is any more adept in battle than Luffy's other primary allies (i.e. Jinbei, Ivankov) in the war.

We also can't say that just because Hancock has Haoushoku Haki and was able to damage a Logia user, that she is able to defeat some other Logia users in battle (especially Enel). Enel is inexperienced but his abilities are not to be underestimated with.

 

[Fox666]

I don't see any reason to say that Hancock is weaker than the other Shichibukai. And I think you are underestimating her power when you say that it "doesn't work on everyone" or that "someone distracted through pain can resist it".

First, Luffy is probably the only being on earth that can is unaffected by it. It not just works on woman too, but also works on Den Den Mushi, meaning that probably even Chopper would be affected.

Second, it's not that simply to inflict damage to yourself. Momonga is a swordman, so transpassing your hand with a knife is not the most safe strategy. Not to say that you can't just keep using that to espace the effect or you will commit suicide. You got my point.

But I'll drop the argument here, as CrownedClown pleads us to

Agree, sorry for my insistence.

 

[BlackSword]

Okay, so I'll start adding the Supernova's individually and some of the other characters people suggested...

Randoms:
Inazuma - 6.5 You really think Inazuma is on the same level as smoker?
Helmeppo - 2
Hina - 4
Ryuuma - 4.5
Oars - 6.5 (I ranked Oars at 6.5 He was just really big imo.)
Demon Guards - 4.5
Sadi-chan - 4 (She got tied up bondage style after fighting Ivankov... She became the submissive!)
Hannyabal - 4.5 (I agree with that ranking... Luffy eventually knocked him out... Dude was just persistent...)
Wapol - I don't even think he should have a rank... He kinda gets owned without much difficulty...
kuro - 1 <--- How is it that Kuro is above Don Kreig? He only knocked his boss out after Luffy almost beat him to death... And it was a surprise attack...
don kreig - 0.5 <--- Sure...

Supernovas:
Basil Hawkins - 6.5?
XDrake - 6.5?
Kidd - 6.5?
Scratchman Apoo - 6?
Jewelery Bonney - 4.5?
Killer - 5?
Capone Bege - 4.5?
Urouge - 5?

 

[MonsterEnvy]

Okay, so I'll start adding the Supernova's individually and some of the other characters people suggested...

Randoms:
Inazuma - 6.5 You really think Inazuma is on the same level as smoker?
Helmeppo - 2
Hina - 4
Ryuuma - 4.5
Oars - 6.5 (I ranked Oars at 6.5 He was just really big imo.)
Demon Guards - 4.5
Sadi-chan - 4 (She got tied up bondage style after fighting Ivankov... She became the submissive!)
Hannyabal - 4.5 (I agree with that ranking... Luffy eventually knocked him out... Dude was just persistent...)
Wapol - I don't even think he should have a rank... He kinda gets owned without much difficulty...
kuro - 1 <--- How is it that Kuro is above Don Kreig? He only knocked his boss out after Luffy almost beat him to death... And it was a surprise attack...
don kreig - 0.5 <--- Sure...

Supernovas:
Basil Hawkins - 6.5?
XDrake - 6.5?
Kidd - 6.5?
Scratchman Apoo - 6?
Jewelery Bonney - 4.5?
Killer - 5?
Capone Bege - 4.5?
Urouge - 5?

Luffy did not Knock Hyannibel out every time Luffy hit him he got back up BlackBeard Knocked him out

Sadichan was fighting on par with Iva for a while and was said to be Stronger then the 4 demon guards combined same with Hyannibel

Shiki is canon add him too Level 8,9 or inbetween i would put him at

 

[DutchPhoenix]

Déjà vu ..



Where ? I don't remember something like that.

http://www.mangareader.net/103-36562-3/one-piece/chapter-561.html


Mihawk wasnt the worlds greatest swordsman 12 years ago either.
you guys rly think shanks isnt a swordsman? ahaha xD
come on, just coz the guy got amazing haki, doesnt mean he can beat mihawk.

If shanks could, he would have made mihawk being stated as second best swordsman of this world :P

Plus Oda stated him as the worlds best, that should be enough to COUNTER any ''argument'' xD

 

[BlackSword]

Shiki is a Movie character and will not be added to the list... I've stated this several times... Movie/Filler characters will not be added to the list for the reason that there are tons of them and they will most likely not make a reappearance... Therefore there is no purpose in ranking them...

 

[DEATHBOTT]

Why is mihawk, who is a greater swordsman then shanks, 2 ranks below shanks.

Fandomism i think lol


Rankings:
Level 10: (in their prime WhiteBeard, Gol D. Roger)
Level 9.5: (prime Garp , Sengoku) , Mihawk , Rayleigh (in his prime)
Level 9: Akainu, Kizaru, Aokiji & Shanks and other younko
Level 8.5: Garp, Rayleigh , Sengoku
Level 8: Jozu,Marco, Vista Kuma(Not Pacifista), Doflamingo, Hancock, Beckman, BlackBeard, Ivankov, Magellan, Ace
Level 7.5: , Sentoumaru , shiryuu
Level 7: Vice Admirals, Crocodile, Jimbei,
Level 6.5: Smoker, Pacafista, Enel
Level 6: Luffy (Pre-Time Skip), Rob Lucci, T. Law, A. Kidd, Moria , Zoro(pre-time skip)
Level 5: killer, Sanji, Supernova's
Level 4: Daz Bones, Brook, Franky, Robin
Level 3: Taishigi, , Bon Kurea, Nami, Chopper, Usopp,
Level 2: Bellamy & Arlong , coby & helmeppo
Level 1: Duvall, Buggy, Galdino

your fangirlism is blinding you.
ps this is all in the shanks v mihawk thread but anyway

1. shanks may not give a shit about the title.
2. he may not be purly a swordsmen
3. him being a yonkou(1 of the 4 strongest pirates of the new world) may be seen as out waying mihawks title. could go either way.
4. he may have a greater capacity for haki than mihawk. We know he is one of the 1 in a million users of coc haki.

i think its best if they stay where they are. op said that people may be able to beat others within 1 rank of them so its a reasonable gap of 0.5.

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Hannibel is Probley a 5.5 while he could not beat Luffy
Luffy really was not Making any Progross in beating him as the dude would not stay down

Sadi-chan was fighting well with Ivankov and was said to be Stronger then the 4 demon guards combined

Hawkins and Drake are Problley Stronger then Law and should be on the same level as them as they were having no problems in the new world



Actully i think its your Fandonism because there is no way Mihawk is the Strongest Living person in one Piece

he is below Shanks Because Shanks is a Haki Master and he was Probley much worse with Haki 10 years ago the last time he fought Mihawk then now while Mihawk has shown no signs of Haki


Hawkins has the 3rd highest supernova bounty and is Probley stronger then Law

all future Croc debata can go to my Mihawk vs Crocodile Thread

i don't know about hannaybel. he may be resilient but wasnt luffy not even useing gear 2? i can't remember. i dont think he would be able to beat any of the supernovas so i think 5 pretty good for him.

your right didnt remember his bounty. i agree with you drake and hawkins should be on there level of 6. i think that law is stronger though but because of his laid back personality he doesnt have a bigger bounty. he also seems like a planner looking at the bigger picture. thats just my opinion though.

i cant remember it saying she was as strong as the 4 demon gaurds combined. i would put her as a 5.5 or a 6 then.

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he is below Shanks Because Shanks is a Haki Master and he was Probley much worse with Haki 10 years ago the last time he fought Mihawk then now while Mihawk has shown no signs of Haki


Go tell oda that, he stated mihawk as most powerfull swordsman so he is, if you disagree, send a letter to oda, the write of this manga.

ps: mihawk showed great mastery of observation haki.
who knows what else he is capable off

has oda said shanks is a swordsmen? no. so its not set in stone yet.

he showed that he has good eyesight as his nickname implies. maybe has some level of coo haki but since its not confirmed we should just wait.

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i think jozu should be a 7.5 and hancock a 7.

 

[BlackSword]

Furthermore Shanks and Mihawk haven't fought since before the beginning of the One Piece series... And from what we were told Shanks & Mihawk fought on par with one another... We will have to wait and see an reevaluate one we have more information...

 

[Wisshard]

[Shanks] Probley uses a fighting based on Haki

[Shanks] may have a greater capacity for haki than mihawk. We know he is one of the 1 in a million users of coc haki.

Views on Haki obviously varies indevidually at this point, since we have seen rather little of it. But as I have to come to view it, Haki is a suppliment, not a fighting style, and is as much apart of a fighters basic overall combat prowess as physical speed, natural insight or physical attack power (etc.).

I don't see any reason to say that Hancock is weaker than the other Shichibukai.

Personally, I expect Hancock to play her role rather late in the story, and in that perspective, her hype (Sengoku's words, her King's Haki) would suggest that she belongs to the higher echelon of the Shichibuka. Perhaps weaker than Mihawk and Doflamingo, but stronger than/on par with Bartholomew.

And I think you are underestimating her power when you say that it "doesn't work on everyone" or that "someone distracted through pain can resist it".

To be fair, even though Whitebeard was a horny bastard (he did like his nurses young and pretty ), I don't think Hancock would've been able to petrify him with a glance.

The likely explanation is that one can defend against Devil Fruit induced abilities (such as Hancock's petrification) with COA, like how the Admirals defended the execution platform from Whitebeard's quake.

That, of course, doesn't mean that everyone who has CoA are invulnerable to Hancock's petrification, only that they have the tool to defend against it (i.e. a sword can be used to parry Mihawk's attacks, but that doesn't necessarily mean that everyone who has a sword can parry his attacks).

 

[St Michael]

Supernovas:
Basil Hawkins - 6.5?
XDrake - 6.5?
Kidd - 6.5?
Scratchman Apoo - 6?
Jewelery Bonney - 4.5?
Killer - 5?
Capone Bege - 4.5?
Urouge - 5?

Ok I would rank them like this :

Hawkins : 1 fight , 1 loss. But against an admiral. Doesn't look weaker than the 3 "big" (in screentime) supernova. So 6.
Drake : Has the same difficulty against a pacifista that the SH. He seems rather important for the plot (I bet he will eventually) , so he has to be strong. Plus cool fruit. 6 too. 5.5 at least.
Kidd and Law : The plot wants them at the same rank than Luffy.
Killer : same rank than Zoro. 5 if I remember correctly.
Boney : Dunno. Really she is unpredictable. She's weaker than the BB pirates. Ok , as the other SN I guess. I'ld put her at 5 .. but I am not that convinced.
Apoo : Didn't impress me. He took a long time to hit Kizaru. I'ld put him around 4.5.
Urouge : Raw force. Plus even rawer force. 4 at best.
Capone : Alone (without his crew) , from that we have seen. It's the weakest. 3. At best
Beppo : A kung fu adept talking polar bear. In a orange suit. Too awesome to be ranked below 8.

 

[smoker559]

Heres what I think. I rank each character when they were at their strongest point with the exception of Luffy and his sudden burst of power. And before time skip.

Level 10: WhiteBeard, Gol D. Roger, Garp, Sengoku
Level 9.5: Akainu, Kizaru, Aokiji, Shanks, Rayleigh
Level 9: Marco, Beckman, Mihawk
Level 8.5: Doflamingo, Magellan, Enel, Ace
Level 8: Jozu, Kuma, Ivankov, Jimbei, Sentoumaru
Level 7.5: Hancock, Crocodile, Vista, Moria
Level 7: Vice Admirals, Smoker, Pacafista
Level 6.5: Hawkins, Luffy , Kidd, Law, Drake
Level 6: Rob Lucci, Apoo, Killer, Zoro

Ok, Garp and Sengoku should be at 10 because Garp would chase Rogers around and I dont think Garp is foolish enough to chase something he cant catch. Mihawk's title as world strongest swordsman should have some meaning. He fought evenly with Shanks 10 years ago and it wouldnt be fair to say only Shanks get stronger. The next big jump i did was Enel and Magellan. Their DF is too powerful. I dont want to add BB and his crew just yet. Too unpredictable. And I dont want to do level 5 and below. Its too tedious.

 

[Wisshard]

I realize that my ranking is quite different from the majority here, but I figured I'd put it out there... Anyhow, here's how I'd rank their overall combat prowess;

Level 10: Gol D. Roger (and Prime Whitebeard)
Level 9.5: Whitebeard
Level 9: Akainu, Aokiji, Kizaru, Mihawk, Marco, Shanks
Level 8.7: Rayleigh, Garp, Sengoku, Beckman
Level 8.4: Jozu, Vista, Doflamingo
Level 8: Strongest Vice Admirals, Bartholomew, Blackbeard, Hancock,
Level 7.5: Magellan, Shiryuu
Level 7: Ace, Sentoumaru
Level 6.5: Average Vice Admirals, Jinbei, Ivankov
Level 5.5: Pacifista’s, Moria, Enel, Kidd, Law
Level 5: Weakest Vice Admirals, X.Drake, Hawkins,
Level 4.5: Luffy, Smoker, Crocodile

Post-time skip Luffy, Kidd and Law is probably at level 7 or 7.5. I rank the more prominent Supernovas higher than Luffy pre-time skip because I think Luffy should have had a bigger growth during the time skip (since he received intense training from the late Pirate King’s “Partner” himself) and I think Kidd and Law (at least) will be comparable in strength to Luffy after the time skip.

 

[MonsterEnvy]

http://www.mangareader.net/103-36562-3/one-piece/chapter-561.html


Mihawk wasnt the worlds greatest swordsman 12 years ago either.
you guys rly think shanks isnt a swordsman? ahaha xD
come on, just coz the guy got amazing haki, doesnt mean he can beat mihawk.

If shanks could, he would have made mihawk being stated as second best swordsman of this world :P

Plus Oda stated him as the worlds best, that should be enough to COUNTER any ''argument'' xD

nothing said that Shanks is a swords men and they fought on par 12 years ago and shanks may relly on Haki for fights so your wrong

Shiki is a Movie character and will not be added to the list... I've stated this several times... Movie/Filler characters will not be added to the list for the reason that there are tons of them and they will most likely not make a reappearance... Therefore there is no purpose in ranking them...

Shiki is a canon character who appeared in the Manga Oda was going to have an arc with him but dicided to use him for the movie when he was asked to write the script for the 10th movie

he is the only Movie character then anyone would care about anyway

your fangirlism is blinding you.
ps this is all in the shanks v mihawk thread but anyway

1. shanks may not give a shit about the title.
2. he may not be purly a swordsmen
3. him being a yonkou(1 of the 4 strongest pirates of the new world) may be seen as out waying mihawks title. could go either way.
4. he may have a greater capacity for haki than mihawk. We know he is one of the 1 in a million users of coc haki.

i think its best if they stay where they are. op said that people may be able to beat others within 1 rank of them so its a reasonable gap of 0.5.
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i don't know about hannaybel. he may be resilient but wasnt luffy not even useing gear 2? i can't remember. i dont think he would be able to beat any of the supernovas so i think 5 pretty good for him.

your right didnt remember his bounty. i agree with you drake and hawkins should be on there level of 6. i think that law is stronger though but because of his laid back personality he doesnt have a bigger bounty. he also seems like a planner looking at the bigger picture. thats just my opinion though.

i cant remember it saying she was as strong as the 4 demon gaurds combined. i would put her as a 5.5 or a 6 then.
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has oda said shanks is a swordsmen? no. so its not set in stone yet.

he showed that he has good eyesight as his nickname implies. maybe has some level of coo haki but since its not confirmed we should just wait.
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i think jozu should be a 7.5 and hancock a 7.

Luffy needed Gear 2 to overpower Hyannibel and Hyannibel was showing no signs of going down until Black beard fell on him and he was also said to be stronger then the 4 demon guards combined same as sadi-chan

I realize that my ranking is quite different from the majority here, but I figured I'd put it out there... Anyhow, here's how I'd rank their overall combat prowess;

Level 10: Gol D. Roger (and Prime Whitebeard)
Level 9.5: Whitebeard
Level 9: Akainu, Aokiji, Kizaru, Mihawk, Marco, Shanks
Level 8.7: Rayleigh, Garp, Sengoku, Beckman
Level 8.4: Jozu, Vista, Doflamingo
Level 8: Strongest Vice Admirals, Bartholomew, Blackbeard, Hancock,
Level 7.5: Magellan, Shiryuu
Level 7: Ace, Sentoumaru
Level 6.5: Average Vice Admirals, Jinbei, Ivankov
Level 5.5: Pacifista’s, Moria, Enel, Kidd, Law
Level 5: Weakest Vice Admirals, X.Drake, Hawkins,
Level 4.5: Luffy, Smoker, Crocodile

Post-time skip Luffy, Kidd and Law is probably at level 7 or 7.5. I rank the more prominent Supernovas higher than Luffy pre-time skip because I think Luffy should have had a bigger growth during the time skip (since he received intense training from the late Pirate King’s “Partner” himself) and I think Kidd and Law (at least) will be comparable in strength to Luffy after the time skip.

okay Garp and Sengoku are stronger then Mihawk and the admirals and Kuma is stronger then Mihawk

Crocodile is is on level 8 or 8.4 because he is way stronger then everyone you named that was above him on the list

Croc can just use Sables no one has been show to be able to dodge Sables or Over power Spada luffy can only just dodge Spada and if Croc felt like spaming it you will die sorry for bring up Crocodile again but that just made me mad

 

[beastboy]

To the Mihawk>Shanks I guess there is a good quote that goes in those lines:
"Owning a Sword does not make you a swordsman!"

So stop saying Shanks is a Swordsman... and even if he is (wich I think he is) its not like he would go hunting Mihawk for the title... he has enough name as a Yonkou! And he does not care about titles... !

But while not being stronger than Mihawk, I think he is clearly above Crocodile, he owned Zoro with a necklace, while Crocodile couldn't beat Luffy in the third fight (do you really think that after three fights Zoro would have lost?)

 

[Schabrak]

And there I was thinking that One Piece would never fall down the path of DBZ power levels. That's one of the most annoying and childish things about manga/anime IHMO. It should have stayed there, since we got official data from Toriyama back than.

Haven't we all learned from 600 chapters, that strength and skill alone wont ensure one's victory. It's about endurance, DF dis-/advantages, ones will to fight.

Please don't repeat the whole Shanks/Mihawk talk in here, while he we have dozens of pages worth of dicussion in their own thread. They competed with swords in the past, shouldn't it be obvious that both are swordsman now too. Oda never gave a hint that Haki would ever be more than a supplementary skill. I also have to disagree about putting all vice-admirals on one level, since we've already seen that they aren't all equal in strength/power and ability.

 

[zelllogan]

Crocodile is like Hitsugaya Toushiro: a fan & author favourite. This kind of character is very hard to rank because always evolving (and often without logic ...).

And there I was thinking that One Piece would never fall down the path of DBZ power levels. That's one of the most annoying and childish things about manga/anime IHMO. It should have stayed there, since we got official data from Toriyama back than.

Still fun to discuss ...

 

[MonsterEnvy]

To the Mihawk>Shanks I guess there is a good quote that goes in those lines:
"Owning a Sword does not make you a swordsman!"

So stop saying Shanks is a Swordsman... and even if he is (wich I think he is) its not like he would go hunting Mihawk for the title... he has enough name as a Yonkou! And he does not care about titles... !

But while not being stronger than Mihawk, I think he is clearly above Crocodile, he owned Zoro with a necklace, while Crocodile couldn't beat Luffy in the third fight (do you really think that after three fights Zoro would have lost?)

Croc did not use his powers in the 3rd fight and Croc owned Luffy in the 1st fight just as badly as Mihawk owned Zoro and Luffy was stronger then Mihawk fight Zoro at Alabasta so Croc's victory has more substance

also enough Croc discution just go to the Croc vs Mihawk thread to debate it

 

[ocajavati]

Why is Ace ranked higher than Vista? Vista was at least on par with Mihawk, to an extend, and was amongst the two commanders to launch an immediate strike against Akainu.

I doubt Ace would fair as well against Mihawk.

Jozu isn't really weaker than Admirals. He was fighting on equal grounds until Marco was down.

Oh, and Shiki is a terrible character. Still not sure how someone who was once considered to hold similar standing with WB & Roger got beaten by Luffy (weak).

 

[beastboy]

Wow, I'm sorry, I had 2 Tabs open, and that post was meant to be in the Crocodile vs Mihawk, not here!

 

[MonsterEnvy]

Why is Ace ranked higher than Vista? Vista was at least on par with Mihawk, to an extend, and was amongst the two commanders to launch an immediate strike against Akainu.

I doubt Ace would fair as well against Mihawk.

Jozu isn't really weaker than Admirals. He was fighting on equal grounds until Marco was down.

Oh, and Shiki is a terrible character. Still not sure how someone who was once considered to hold similar standing with WB & Roger got beaten by Luffy (weak).

Ace might fair as well agenist Mihawk if he can't use CoA haki hell he would probley beat him

Shiki if the only reason you don't like Shiki is because he lost to Luffy thats kind of stupid

it took both Sengoku and Garb (in their Primes) and a whole lot of damage to marineford to put him in impel down were he was the first one to escape he fought to a draw with Rodger and he was supposed to be name dropped by Shanks and Whitebeard during there meeting

Shiki also domminated Luffy in the fight ifact if Luffy did not have Billy he would not not have been able to touch Shiki

Shiki lost do to lack of foresight he had Luffy on the ropes and and could have just put him in water orb when ever he wanted (hell that would beat any devil fruit user) but released him and wanted to taunt him more even though he could have won there

he could have taken luffy down again when he put his leg in the cloud or avoided it but thought the lighting was going to kill Luffy. if he had know that Luffy was uneffected by Lightning he could have just put him back in the water orb till he died this time

Shiki is strong and should go on level 8 9 or inbettween

Croc should also be a level 8 he can just use the verson of sables that drain water and Break steel as no one can avoid sables and that would take anyone out