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First we need to absolutelly make sure that Nika said in Elbaf is the same Nika that the legends tell outside Elbaf, then, if the fruit that Luffy eat in fact is the same of that legends, maybe there's some other circunstances that make Elbaf believe that Nika is other "person"
He is the same😐 There is one Nika the WG fears 🙄 And the giants came to rescue Luffy and took him to Elbaf because they saw Luffy's new poster and acknowledged the resemblance he had with Nika
 

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We don't know where the Nika df is right now. It was just assumed that it'd be on Elbaph. But since I haven't seen who's who or CP agents, the one Shanks took it from, on the island I don't think it's here.
oh you mean IN THIS FLASHBACK,where it was 14 years ago?,,the place where the W.G took it and put it on a CP9 ship?, yeah thats a mistery...i would like to know too..
 

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Whatever the case, it never made sense for Who's-Who to have gone to Elbaf, all the way up to the Castle, and then leave with the fruit only to be carrying it around with him for an entire year, much less for Shanks to take an entire year to get it back ever since the day it was taken from the castle he was in.
 

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Whatever the case, it never made sense for Who's-Who to have gone to Elbaf, all the way up to the Castle, and then leave with the fruit only to be carrying it around with him for an entire year, much less for Shanks to take an entire year to get it back ever since the day it was taken from the castle he was in.
Knowing.. from where the Hell Cp9 got the Nika DF.. it is one of my fav misteries.. always wanted to know that...

Also i guess when Gorosei sayed.. WG in 900 never could get a hold of the fruit.. like if fate or somehow Reality itself got warped and twisted by the same fruit to prevent it; i guess they refer as to Being able to reach Mariejois.. and lock it forever in a basement.. like the Hat... thus cropping away forever the chance some asswipe eat it.. reach G5 and become a treath 4 them.. so just being able to be capture in a Ship, momentarily doesnt count.

Now this is a nice question for you:

Did Shanks knew they were transporting a DF? that Df in particular? or he just attacked the ship.. cause well.. he is a pirate and maybe they were on his territory... and Fate did the rest..

If we GO by the "FATE" and "Own will of the fruit" Path...i would like to think on this timeline:

1)Cp9 got the Nika from god knows where...

2)Shanks Have no freaking clue about that-- just see a CP9 ship attacks, and he realize they got a DF. (maybe not even knowing it is the Nika one) ; i guess not cause in the bar,, he seems to know it as the GOMU GOMU.. or was playing Dumb

3) HE NEVER EXPECTED THE FRUIT TO BE CONSUMED BY SOMEONE,,Like Luffy on that Bar,, (That being FATE / DESTINY/ Own will of the fruit 100% in Play)
 
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Knowing.. from where the Hell Cp9 got the Nika DF.. it is one of my fav misteries.. always wanted to know that...
I been wanting to know too and I think Oda will answer this question. I actually have this prediction where Oda will give the Nika fruit its own flashback. Like the shit that it got to see as it is going through it's WG evading journey. The history and islands and societies that it got to "lived" through the years and such. Live is the keyword here because as we all know, fruits eventually spoil. But not devil fruits. Zoan or not, they seem to be able to go for what seems like an indefinite amount of time without going bad which is a mystery all on its own like they all got the ope ope surgery or something. Another mystery that I hope will be answered by Oda but I think he may leave this one ambiguous...

2)Shanks Have no freaking clue about that-- just see a CP9 ship attacks, and he realize they got a DF. (maybe not even knowing it is the Nika one) ; i guess not cause in the bar,, he seems to know it as the GOMU GOMU.. or was playing Dumb
He might know a thing or two. Given the fact that he was going to be promoted to God's Knight, and also the fact that he was trying to siphon information from Shamrock, it would not be so farfetched to think that at some point he learned of the WG trying to get their hands on this fruit. He might have been dispatched on a mission to get this fruit at some point but did not succeed. So while it could have been a random attack on Who's Who's ship, I do not think it was. Being as resourcesful as he is, and being the type of person who will choose his battles, I think he got intel about the Nika fruit. From who? My best guess is the source that provided CP9 the df.

Provided is a strong word here. Perhaps a better word might be stolen. Also, CP9 may not have been the group that acquired it. I feel like CP0 would be a more probable answer and CP9 is only the ones to transport it. They did not know what they were transporting at all but members of CP0 do. On Wano they said even they were not privy of all the details themselves so that mean they were at least privy to some of the details. Why they would entrust CP9 to transport it is beyond me but it may have something to do with making it seem like a lower value item by having a lesser team do it but CP9 would still be a strong enough team to have people think twice before attacking than say CP4. Few people would attack CP9. Too bad they were on Shank's radar.
 
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If Nika DF wasn’t safe stored for 800y (plot case used for Elbaf legendary fruit) and it still managed to avoid World Government for 800y now I am reaching a point where I almost expect Oda to introduce us with Zoan half-awakening which is that Zoan DFs that haven’t been eaten for centuries can self-awaken their Zoan spirit within themselves instead of an object or person. A Half-awaken zoan DF keeps its DF shape but can partly use the zoan latent powers like the Gomu elasticity power.

Then Oda will explain us that half-awakened Nika DF was able to sense people ready to eat "him" and was bouncing away from them. Just imagine seeing the Nika DF fleeing from someone like a ground-to-air missle (epic chapter scenes). Then somehow after 800y the Nika DF was finally captured by CP who put it in a chest to prevent it from bouncing away - the half-awaken Zoan DF cannot make the chest bouncy which is Nika full awakening power so it was locked and trapped in a chest to be delivered safely to Gorusei. And Shanks the child of destiny saved Nika from WG.
 
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Here goes a hint:
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

I wonder if it‘s Aokiji / Kuzan related or if Loki‘s DF grants him ice based attacks.
 

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Here goes a hint:
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

I wonder if it‘s Aokiji / Kuzan related or if Loki‘s DF grants him ice based attacks.
My guess it's something about the frozen Galleila giants.
 

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My guess it's something about the frozen Galleila giants.
You say.. Loki scape it was related 2 search the frozen Galley La giants?
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

I been wanting to know too and I think Oda will answer this question. I actually have this prediction where Oda will give the Nika fruit its own flashback. Like the shit that it got to see as it is going through it's WG evading journey. The history and islands and societies that it got to "lived" through the years and such. Live is the keyword here because as we all know, fruits eventually spoil. But not devil fruits. Zoan or not, they seem to be able to go for what seems like an indefinite amount of time without going bad which is a mystery all on its own like they all got the ope ope surgery or something. Another mystery that I hope will be answered by Oda but I think he may leave this one ambiguous...



He might know a thing or two. Given the fact that he was going to be promoted to God's Knight, and also the fact that he was trying to siphon information from Shamrock, it would not be so farfetched to think that at some point he learned of the WG trying to get their hands on this fruit. He might have been dispatched on a mission to get this fruit at some point but did not succeed. So while it could have been a random attack on Who's Who's ship, I do not think it was. Being as resourcesful as he is, and being the type of person who will choose his battles, I think he got intel about the Nika fruit. From who? My best guess is the source that provided CP9 the df.

Provided is a strong word here. Perhaps a better word might be stolen. Also, CP9 may not have been the group that acquired it. I feel like CP0 would be a more probable answer and CP9 is only the ones to transport it. They did not know what they were transporting at all but members of CP0 do. On Wano they said even they were not privy of all the details themselves so that mean they were at least privy to some of the details. Why they would entrust CP9 to transport it is beyond me but it may have something to do with making it seem like a lower value item by having a lesser team do it but CP9 would still be a strong enough team to have people think twice before attacking than say CP4. Few people would attack CP9. Too bad they were on Shank's radar.
The fruit by itself knows, that if is taken by the W.G and locked forever in a chest in Mariejois Basement.. it is all over- His cycle of reencarnations Try outs get cut.. and The possibility of someone reaching G5 and beating the WG.. is totally over... destiny and fate doesnt need to be discarded on this Manga.. Imu itself it was worried the G.V destruction could led to new things to bust his nuts and it did, Dragon's Rebel Army, Bb, Shanks.. maybe the sky splitting with a multiple pathway lightning when Xebec's died it was a reference to that.. Imu's can live forever , but that also means that he needs to deal forever with these events and occurrences he cannot control.. they always point towards him and their constant attempts of destroy him.. you can call it the will of D. in a sense.
 

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My guess it's something about the frozen Galleila giants.
Well Loki‘s DF enabling him to create and possibly manipulate ice would explain why his DF was declared as crucial for overthrowing IMU by Xebec. I can picture a mythological aspect to his fruit that allows the revival of frozen lifeforms.
 

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Hmm, if Loki proclaimed himself the Sun God, it would be weird for his fruit to have ice powers. Though, Luffy is supposed to be a Sun God and his powers aren't really heat related, well, maybe except Red Hawk, so who knows.
 

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Definitly a Chilly related chapter.. lot of cold.. lot of ice.. maybe lot of freezing giants too
I saw this more as someone hurting their arm and it potentially being Imu brand related instead of cold
 

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I saw this more as someone hurting their arm and it potentially being Imu brand related instead of cold
i related it to the first hint of someone freezing instantly.. in a bliss.. ( maybe Aokiji will be on it ) but if is still a flashback a super young one
 

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Here goes a hint:
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I wonder if it‘s Aokiji / Kuzan related or if Loki‘s DF grants him ice based attacks.
It's his 1st hint there always about the cover page.
 

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It's his 1st hint there always about the cover page.
IIRC it‘s either the first or the second hint after Redon‘s reaction that is referring to the coverpage.
Any way here goes another one
 

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IIRC it‘s either the first or the second hint after Redon‘s reaction that is referring to the coverpage.
Any way here goes another one
Welp..is not secret..900 years ago.. Giants among lot other Races, were buddys along JoyBoy,,and take part on the War on his favor,, most likely like the Mural despict it... it might be one of the reasons, to keep THAT D.F always inside a Royal Bloodline of Elbaph Kings,, even when none of them were capable of beat RAGNIR the whole concept..is always keep the fruit inside Elbaph,, probably even if one were capable to consume,,, IF posible on his death, force the reeincarnation of the fruit Inside Elbaph...not in some random place in the other side of the world,, this is an aspect of the D.F that it wasnt fully explored , and people like Burguess and the Bb pirates know... so literally you can leave a full bag of fruits at the deathbed of someone diying,,, Even from old Age who is a D.F user and force the fruit to reeincarnate Just Right there when he died.. and the reason is cause that D.F it is super important to Beat Imu,, a concept adopted since the void century i guess, but then again as i say,, no King was able to beat Ragnir to eat it anyway, Until Loki of course.
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

I found something interesting.. spoilers from 2 days ago.. of course i inmediatly tought they are fake..but strangely some stuff is matching with these hints... must be just a coincidence..
 
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Well Loki‘s DF enabling him to create and possibly manipulate ice would explain why his DF was declared as crucial for overthrowing IMU by Xebec. I can picture a mythological aspect to his fruit that allows the revival of frozen lifeforms.
If that's the case, then it's interesting how Loki never found the frozen giants at Punk Hazard after 8 years, while the Straw Hats found them after only a short amount of time in the New World. I wonder how Loki ends up going back there.
 

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If that's the case, then it's interesting how Loki never found the frozen giants at Punk Hazard after 8 years, while the Straw Hats found them after only a short amount of time in the New World. I wonder how Loki ends up going back there.
By plot reasons strawhats will always be on impossible places.. maybe places others chars are looking for centuries or decades ago.. and they didnt have a freaking clue of the importance of it.

I wonder if Kaido even knew Pluton it was always down there..

If at some point nami and chopper start talking they saw some frozen giants once.. to Jarul Loki or anyone in Elbaph aware of them.. they are goin to freaking Snap.. asking where they saw them... But.. this is not the time for it.

All of them must be in the same Tune... like Robin telling Jarul she found pluton in Wano.. he telling her it was built by Galley La giants and they got frozen.. and Nami and chopper in there remembering they saw frozen giants in PH ( cause robin wasnt in that exact moment ) this is stuff.. for the After Battle with Imu..


Oh and if the spoilers i saw were true.. the flashback end on this chapter... it kinda match some of the hints.. and they got posted 2 days ago
 
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