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Another Saijō Ōwazamono? Or or perhaps just a black blade.
Edit: it's not a Saijō Ōwazamono since Ryumma didn't have one.
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I think this mean joyboy haki level or smtg like that
Another Saijō Ōwazamono? Or or perhaps just a black blade.
Edit: it's not a Saijō Ōwazamono since Ryumma didn't have one.
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JoyBoy Lore..(flashback?).and like Madara and the First Hokage..they were friends it seems?

New sword? Griphon maybe?
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Some more unconfirmed Spoilers

There is a little lore drop between the fight scenes as Imu/Loki exchanges blows they exchange talks as well.

Imu and joyboy were friends – sorta confirmed but wait for more confirmation.

Imu talks about Joyboy during his fight with Loki. (unconfirmed)

I keep hearing that the last page will feed the fandom for the weeks.
 

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Another Saijō Ōwazamono? Or or perhaps just a black blade.
Edit: it's not a Saijō Ōwazamono since Ryumma didn't have one.
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Wtf could have beem wrong between they? Davy D. Jones maybe ?
 

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Wtf could have beem wrong between they? Davy D. Jones maybe ?
In GV Imu mentioned Davey was the past "King of the world" he also mentioned he didnt even consider him not even by 1 second Worthy..

Maybe he was Jelly...then he get rid of him.. took his seat; and J.B got pissed.. a triangle of friendship, totally ruined by Greed , ambition, and Jelousy.

They might be dead.. physically.. but as if it were a curse, for 900 years Fate keep pushing their descendants, (Jb and Davey ones) towards imu.. Over and Over Again, a fate not even him or death can stop,.. thats why he mentioned it When he reach elbaph some chaps ago.. on "Why they keep punishing him "

and How easy things could be for him.. if things like Loki and Luffy Werent there...

" how much Hardships could have been avoided if Loki werent in Elbaph"

Loki's probably not a D or Jb or Davey Related..but for sure 900 years ago Giants fight along Jb.. against the 20 Kingdoms so in a sense..by Destiny.. he need to oppose Imu's
 
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In GV Imu mentioned Davey was the past "King of the world" he also mentioned he didnt even consider him not even by 1 second Worthy..

Maybe he was Jelly...then he get rid of him.. took his seat; and J.B got pissed.. a triangle of friendship, totally ruined by Greed , ambition, and Jelousy.

They might be dead.. physically.. but as if it were a curse, for 900 years Fate keep pushing their descendants, (Jb and Davey ones) towards imu.. Over and Over Again, a fate not even him or death can stop,.. thats why he mentioned it When he reach elbaph some chaps ago.. on "Why they keep punishing him "

and How easy things could be for him.. if things like Loki and Luffy Werent there...

" how much Hardships could have been avoided if Loki werent in Elbaph"

Loki's probably not a D or Jb or Davey Related..but for sure 900 years ago Giants fight along Jb.. against the 20 Kingdoms so in a sense..by Destiny.. he need to oppose Imu's
Man, I feel like to understand Joyboy, one just needs to look at Luffy and Roger and then prepare themselves for Joyboy having their worst traits. Fact of the matter is that Luffy and Roger value freedom almost to a fault. They're just very irresponsible people. And that observation applies to Garp, to a degree.

They're not malicious, but man, they could cause a lot of heartache with how focused on their fixation they are.

For Joyboy, I can totally imagine a scenario where the guy was mostly happy all the time, and was happy to leave things to the future generations, while everyone that lived had to hold out and survive the ages in their lonesome, without Joyboy's eternally joyous brain. So, if Joyboy would have any effect on people, it's probably that he left a lot of people grieving without properly considering them.
Everyone can make arguments for Roger, too, in that sense, in how many people he left grieving or confused with the choices he made and the secrets he kept in the final chapter of his life.
Honestly, having a freedom-addicted D as a friend might be one of the single most stress-inducing friendships of your life.
 

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In GV Imu mentioned Davey was the past "King of the world" he also mentioned he didnt even consider him not even by 1 second Worthy..

Maybe he was Jelly...then he get rid of him.. took his seat; and J.B got pissed.. a triangle of friendship, totally ruined by Greed , ambition, and Jelousy.

They might be dead.. physically.. but as if it were a curse, for 900 years Fate keep pushing their descendants, (Jb and Davey ones) towards imu.. Over and Over Again, a fate not even him or death can stop,.. thats why he mentioned it When he reach elbaph some chaps ago.. on "Why they keep punishing him "

and How easy things could be for him.. if things like Loki and Luffy Werent there...

" how much Hardships could have been avoided if Loki werent in Elbaph"

Loki's probably not a D or Jb or Davey Related..but for sure 900 years ago Giants fight along Jb.. against the 20 Kingdoms so in a sense..by Destiny.. he need to oppose Imu's

That could be, but I think Loki is a 'D'. Because if Elbaf is a 'D', what does that say about the royal family? And another thing: Dayve was the 'King of the World', but did his title mean the exact same thing as what Imu is now? We know that Emeth wanted to make Joy Boy king—but king of the world? Or something else? My theory is that those three people and their groups are chasing something far beyond simply ruling over territory. They are after something that could make a real king in the Void Century start feeling greedy and join this arms race that led to the world flooding.

I don't think the 'end goal' was to be King of the World, because for me it's looks like even Davey D. Jones being already the so-called "King of the World" at that time didn't made him step away from that war of the Void Century so - I think that, much like how Luffy's true dream ISN'T just to become the Pirate King, it's something that, at the bare minimum, requires him to become the Pirate King first in order to accomplish it - it was the same for this peoploe in the V.C - maybe they are in a run to be the king of something else - and even a former King of the World was trying to do it so, just like Luffy has his true dream and the world he wants to create, the same goes for Imu. I don't think that currently being 'King of the World' means Imu's dream has been fulfilled. After all, the war isn't over yet, and Imu's ideal world is not yet complete.
 

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Another Saijō Ōwazamono? Or or perhaps just a black blade.
Edit: it's not a Saijō Ōwazamono since Ryumma didn't have one.
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You just had to show guts and griffin. 🥺🥺🥺.
 

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That could be, but I think Loki is a 'D'. Because if Elbaf is a 'D', what does that say about the royal family? And another thing: Dayve was the 'King of the World', but did his title mean the exact same thing as what Imu is now? We know that Emeth wanted to make Joy Boy king—but king of the world? Or something else? My theory is that those three people and their groups are chasing something far beyond simply ruling over territory. They are after something that could make a real king in the Void Century start feeling greedy and join this arms race that led to the world flooding.

I don't think the 'end goal' was to be King of the World, because for me it's looks like even Davey D. Jones being already the so-called "King of the World" at that time didn't made him step away from that war of the Void Century so - I think that, much like how Luffy's true dream ISN'T just to become the Pirate King, it's something that, at the bare minimum, requires him to become the Pirate King first in order to accomplish it - it was the same for this peoploe in the V.C - maybe they are in a run to be the king of something else - and even a former King of the World was trying to do it so, just like Luffy has his true dream and the world he wants to create, the same goes for Imu. I don't think that currently being 'King of the World' means Imu's dream has been fulfilled. After all, the war isn't over yet, and Imu's ideal world is not yet complete.
I say it before,,living forever have a price and one of those prices is being chased forever by the D's - JoyBoy's Will inherited by some people and Even Davey descendants.. he is absolutly SICK OF IT, his reason for being in Elbaf now, is not only Getting his Army,, or Get rid of Jarul, He need to Kill,, all those people anything than keep hindering his path,, Loki, Luffy, B.B, even Shiraoshi,,, (I dont know why he want Vivi's alive duh) considering she came from a Family who never joined, the W.G and whats worse, Related to Lily,, someone he despice with all his might,, due to his "Little accident" scattering the Phoneglyphs,, i guess at that time, the "D" were a real problem for him, they were like freaking traitors and spys, even somes inside the goverment, and even some being queens and Kings,, if they task LILY with something so important as the phoneglyphs is cause they simply didnt know she was a "D" that was goin to fuck them over.
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You just had to show guts and griffin. 🥺🥺🥺.
how coincidence,,, Shank's unnamed sworf is Named "Griphon"

i dont need to be a genius to know in the future (maybe even on this chap) it could be that,, sword is a TOTALLY MYSTICAL LEGENDARY sword,,,, that was never mentioned before...

oh forget it.. i forgot it was a Meito...
 

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JoyBoy Lore..(flashback?).and like Madara and the First Hokage..they were friends it seems?

New sword? Griphon maybe?
--- Double Post Merged, ---

@AmyRose

Some more unconfirmed Spoilers

There is a little lore drop between the fight scenes as Imu/Loki exchanges blows they exchange talks as well.

Imu and joyboy were friends – sorta confirmed but wait for more confirmation.

Imu talks about Joyboy during his fight with Loki. (unconfirmed)

I keep hearing that the last page will feed the fandom for the weeks.
Ok, I understand most of this but honestly why would Imu explain his relation to Joyboy to Loki? Unless, despit fact that Luffy isn't mentioned just yet he is somehow part of this fight. Also yeah, theories about Imu being friends with Joyboy were floating around the internet for quite some time but I bet it worked like this: Imu and Joyboy were friends but it all came to end after Imu told Joyboy that he want to take over the world and tried to make him join in. Joyboy refused and standed against Imu, then he lost despit epic battle depicted on Harley painting and got almost ereased from history. AND on top of that Imu felt REALLY betrayed because Joyboy refused him and just couldn't stand what Imu tried to do. That would bit sappy if you ask me but would explain Imus obsesion with Joyboy and everything he stands for.
 
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We're all kind of assuming that Imu and Joyboy we're friends but this is Loki vs Imu so maybe it was Imu and Nidhogg that were friends.
 

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We're all kind of assuming that Imu and Joyboy we're friends but this is Loki vs Imu so maybe it was Imu and Nidhogg that were friends.
Well.. at some point the past Nidhogg Giant User.. fight against Nika.... i still wonder the reasons for such a thing...maybe at that time he was an ally of Imu's.. still im unsure if that "Nika" was joyboy in G5... or something even older like the Actual Manifestation of Nika as A GOD.. before becoming a D.F somehow..

Info is way too scarce yet.. like for take conclusions about that..

When did it happen ?.. 900 years ago? 3000 years ago?..
 

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Well.. at some point the past Nidhogg Giant User.. fight against Nika.... i still wonder the reasons for such a thing...maybe at that time he was an ally of Imu's.. still im unsure if that "Nika" was joyboy in G5... or something even older like the Actual Manifestation of Nika as A GOD.. before becoming a D.F somehow..

Info is way too scarce yet.. like for take conclusions about that..

When did it happen ?.. 900 years ago? 3000 years ago?..
I was talking about the Nidhogg user.
I imagine the reason why they fought will come up during this fight.
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I was talking about the Nidhogg user.
I imagine the reason why they fought will come up during this fight.
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Choppers fruit was mushroom shaped. Reference maybe?
 

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That's it. Luffy talk no jutsu Imu into final Strawhat!
 

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Hmm, so Imu and Joyboy might have been friends, I wonder were Lili fits into this :3c
 

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A legendary Black Blade called Nemesis
Hope this is Imu‘s blade, after all the name is really befitting for Imu since he apparently was Davy‘s and Joyboy‘s Nemesis.
 

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A legendary Black Blade called Nemesis
Hope this is Imu‘s blade, after all the name is really befitting for Imu since he apparently was Davy‘s and Joyboy‘s Nemesis.
Between Roger's blade Ace and Rocks's blade Eclipse, I feel like named blades are direct references to the swordsman's "inherited will". I won't blab about Mihawk and Yoru right now because it's a bit more abstract but if this is Imu's blade's name I actually wonder if there's another enemy in this political history we're learning about between Imu/Joyboy/Davy.

Also there's a non-zero chance that Wado Ichimonji will become a black blade and Nemesis is an attack name Zoro will use.
 
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