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[Federicoxxx]

I think imu's could be the fire one !?.. he uses a lot of flames..

 

[Imfamux]

I think imu's could be the fire one !?.. he uses a lot of flames..

Yeah.. would make a lot of sense, and maybe that is his trump card. And if he goes out much time away of his red serpent of fire and blood, that thing will awaken once one more time

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Imu rode Ningdong.

Joyboy rode Zenusha.

Could be.. or the fire serpent - and the betray of zunesha is maybe related to this ? In the right time he didn't get in time thre to f9ght alongside JoyBoy and instead took Imu into the top of the red line !

 

[kkck]

She probably could if she ever trained and mastered her abilities.

Jimbei can manipulate water and call up whale sharks. She can call up sea kings, so it seems logical that she should have the power to manipulate water at sea king to whale shark scale.

It’s honestly kind of frustrating that Fishman Island didn’t spend all their time training her after finding out she was Poseidon. She has so much potential but Fishman Island just decided not to tap into it. They shouldn’t need to be relying on the protection of a Yonko, or begging the WG to let them join. Pirates passing through should be paying them a toll, and the WG should be begging them to join and reopen shipping lines that she can easily close.

What? How does manipulating sea kings have anything to do with manipulating water?

 

[baditz]

I feel like this doesn't really answer to anything I said. My post was very much about the OP setting/metaplot.

Yes, but what i mean the basic understand Oda use can be from japan lore itself, Oda can mix everything, that include concept god how japan believe, of curse he still can take it whereever he want to do, we still dont know exactly the concept of god in OP, but if u say a devil n god cannot be the same, it can if follow japan tradition.

 

[Tonix]

What? How does manipulating sea kings have anything to do with manipulating water?

Because manipulating sea creatures and manipulating water are both Fishman abilities. Being able to manipulate the highest tier of sea creatures makes it seem reasonable that she should also be able to manipulate water at the highest level.

 

[baditz]

uh... if you're talking about shinto, "super power spirit being" isn't the phrase that comes to mind lol. kami in shinto are pretty much gods of *anything*.

also i think it should go without saying that oda isn't just drawing on local religion (though there is a bunch of that peppered throughout). the Harley mythology is borrowing from a lot of different stuff all at once.

Well its Oda universe he can mix all lore, up to this point we dont know exactly concept god in OP, i just try to open all possibility.

 

[Sr.Enissay]

I believe Imu isn't a god. He may in fact be the natural enemy of gods: a devil.

 

[AmyRose]

Considering the very personal way Imu talks about Nidhogg and Nika I'm fairly certain they're all entangled.

Though Imu- their silhouette form at least- is personally entangled with Joyboy.

tinfoil: I'm starting to think that zoans carry haki AND maki of their previous users, which "paint" the hagaromo in awakening of the current user as light or dark. But Imu seems to have fully merged with their devil?? Or something??

Luffy using the maki of Nika would be really interesting

Yeah, it's fully possible their stories are tangled together. Also interesting theory, it seems possible too. Maybe that's why Lucci had black scarf instead of white like Luffy. Btw, I didn't think Luffy have that maki thing or at least very little of it. His form is almost purely white and his aura seem very possitive which may mean there's nothing or almost nothing evil in him. At least that's how I understand it.

 

[Federicoxxx]

1182 Unconfirmed Spoilers #3

This can't be real... where the hell are this people ?

Spoiler

There are many god like Sun/Fire God, Rain/Water God, Earth God, Fire god and what not.

Imu is also a god, and luffy could be another as a Sun god. We are getting identities of the gods in this chapter

Well... if Luffy truly is sun god Nika.. for sure we can say is not like they are hiding out there.. IN PERSON.. if not as devil fruit powers...

Similar to Sengoku...buddah.. and not expect to find them as an individual.. lets say like Gan Fall.. waiting on a cloud.

 

[kkck]

Because manipulating sea creatures and manipulating water are both Fishman abilities. Being able to manipulate the highest tier of sea creatures makes it seem reasonable that she should also be able to manipulate water at the highest level.

So far there's no reason to think there's any overlap between fishman karate and controlling any variety of sea creatures. If anything it's entirely possible that fishman karate is not even fish/mer-man exclusive considering koala is a fishman karate instructor and robin has learned some of it as well (though we have yet to see a human use techniques involving water).

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Yes, but what i mean the basic understand Oda use can be from japan lore itself, Oda can mix everything, that include concept god how japan believe, of curse he still can take it whereever he want to do, we still dont know exactly the concept of god in OP, but if u say a devil n god cannot be the same, it can if follow japan tradition.

I mean, it's clear that "god" here doesn't refer to an actual pantheon or otherwise omnipotent beings. Even at skypeia "god" was just what they called their ruler (enel obviously disagreed). What you say is not at odds with my suggestion that imu probably isn't one of the four gods in question.

 

[baditz]

So far there's no reason to think there's any overlap between fishman karate and controlling any variety of sea creatures. If anything it's entirely possible that fishman karate is not even fish/mer-man exclusive considering koala is a fishman karate instructor and robin has learned some of it as well (though we have yet to see a human use techniques involving water).

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I mean, it's clear that "god" here doesn't refer to an actual pantheon or otherwise omnipotent beings. Even at skypeia "god" was just what they called their ruler (enel obviously disagreed). What you say is not at odds with my suggestion that imu probably isn't one of the four gods in question.

Yes, ur theory actually not denied my statment either,,

Actually my theory Imu are above 4 gods, Imu are the real god who give power to other by using DF, i even have slightly idea the 4 gods are originally system like gorosei from Imu, but 4 gods betray Imu (thats why we see joyboy talk to imu), well its just theory, cannot wait this week chapter.

 

[Trip_LLL]

There comes a time in Jump series when there's just a villain who becomes the MVP narratively, because of how much the villain gives for the rest of the characters, regardless of the villain's own performance in battles or charisma.

In Naruto, Kabuto facilitates closure for a bunch of characters.
In MHA, All For One allows a lot of people to have their moments to shine against him while he is an immortal punching bag.
And now, in One Piece, Imu divulges lore without being asked to. He's just handing this out, all the secrets of the world, that would likely get people killed. I feel like we will get to a point where we have learned more lore from Imu's rambling than we will from Robin reading poneglyphs.

 

[Federicoxxx]

I honestly was expecting a Rematch .. on Kilingham vs Sanji since he is the one who crushed his head..such an embarassement for a GK... and now that he is Buffed.. taken revenge on him... but if the Spoilers are true, it is Zoro the one taking on Him.

my dream of seeing both he and Summer's fighting in C.q.B ( Close quarters battle ) in a way similar to Gunko, might come true... cause without the Buff.. i think Killingham is not made for that... he was eaaaasily beated and chopped.. super embarassing... he have the ability to cause chaos in a massive scale,.. but hardly anyone to fend for himself in a 1 vs 1 , i hope that change now.

Or maybe it was xause the MMAs were scattered all over..and not fighting along him..

still no haki blocks!? No rokoushiki? no super speed? he let himself get crushed by a Sanji's kick

 

[kkck]

Yes, ur theory actually not denied my statment either,,

Actually my theory Imu are above 4 gods, Imu are the real god who give power to other by using DF, i even have slightly idea the 4 gods are originally system like gorosei from Imu, but 4 gods betray Imu (thats why we see joyboy talk to imu), well its just theory, cannot wait this week chapter.

The issue here is that there are two viable candidates for who the sea god is. The first is shirahoshi. And the second one would be davy jones with whom imu had a deal/covenant(?). Shirahoshi does not have a devil fruit and imu identified xebec as davy jones in spite of him lacking a devil fruit. That said, it is entirely possible that davy jones' original power was imu's devil fruit.

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Of course, there's the option that the sea god was a third still unknown character but that's probably not the most likely scenario.

 

[Federicoxxx]

I always tought. if Davy is inmortal and he really living under the sea until today ..the access to stuff he have it is INSANE... starting by literally walking over the 900 years old world ruins...phoneglyphs.. any kind of treasure or anything dropping to sea bed... unrecheable for any DF user.. being only fishman ppl or things like Wadatsumi capable....

and of course 99% hidden for the rest of the world..

 

[baditz]

The issue here is that there are two viable candidates for who the sea god is. The first is shirahoshi. And the second one would be davy jones with whom imu had a deal/covenant(?). Shirahoshi does not have a devil fruit and imu identified xebec as davy jones in spite of him lacking a devil fruit. That said, it is entirely possible that davy jones' original power was imu's devil fruit.

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Of course, there's the option that the sea god was a third still unknown character but that's probably not the most likely scenario.

I will not take Shirahoshi, her status are ancient weapon i doubt she will also as God,,
When in skypie they mention god sea/rain, i dont know i read right translation, but if it rain god, Dragon glimpse power more close to god of rain,,

 

[Federicoxxx]

I will not take Shirahoshi, her status are ancient weapon i doubt she will also as God,,
When in skypie they mention god sea/rain, i dont know i read right translation, but if it rain god, Dragon glimpse power more close to god of rain,,

lol.. i consider more Godlike Jimbei water control... than her Lame Aquaman look a like telepathy

 

[baditz]

lol.. i consider more Godlike Jimbei water control... than her Lame Aquaman look a like telepathy

Right now i do not see her point as weapon, but if she will control all sea king in calm belt, it sure a something.

 

[kkck]

I will not take Shirahoshi, her status are ancient weapon i doubt she will also as God,,
When in skypie they mention god sea/rain, i dont know i read right translation, but if it rain god, Dragon glimpse power more close to god of rain,,

I mean, her moniker as an ancient weapon is poseidon and she belong's to the neptune family. It's by far the most natural interpretation we have of the information available (of course, oda can flip this in a second). I think the spoilers suggest there's a rain god and a sea god.

 

[Federicoxxx]

Right now i do not see her point as weapon, but if she will control all sea king in calm belt, it sure a something.

Lets Consider she can only control the Sea Kings... thats not Small thing.. but it have Limits.. theeee beeessst scenario i can think of.. it is control the sea routes Exactly what the R.A it was doing to Mariejois... to starve them to death....Siege an island.. attack enemy ships... but as long i remember the Marine Ships got Kairoseki under it that make them invisible to the Sea Kings ; so unless they literally pop up to the surface to scout them like a scope on a Submarine.. i dont see how.