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[Josef]

 

[grey matter]

Finally, the bounties !! Hope it's there actually

 

[Nie Li]

 

[Vanshrimp]

if confirmed, then the "here we go again GIF" somehow makes sense now, we have to live with bounties, everyone here think they should be higher

 

[Fox666]

It would make sense if their bounties is not that high, Ace's bounty was only 550 million...

However, what does "not very high" means here? Some fans would get offended if Zoro bounty was below 2 billion... I think these bounties may actually end up being very high in-universe.

 

[Organizized]

Said this elsewhere and in the bounty prediction thread, but:

King and Queen's bounties were less than a third of Kaido's. Katakuri's bounty was about a fourth of Big Mom's.

And those are the highest (known) bounty commanders under the highest bounty Yonkou. Oda has said Yonkou's crew are commonly raised in tandem with their captains.

Even if Sanji and Zoro were raised in the same kind of parallel with their captain as the ones they beat, that would land Sanji at around 858M and Zoro at 904M. I can imagine they'll get a bit lower than that though, especially if these hints are true.

 

[Bandit99]

I’ve lowered my expectations now. If Zoro/Sanji/Jinbe all get bounties over 750M I’ll be good

 

[Zehahaha]

If Zoro doesn’t break the 1b mark, Oda can just fuck off tbh

 

[Lord Traffy Law]

Told yall captains are the ones with the big bounty
Sabo was 600m and he was second in command to the most dangerous man in the world
People forget king and queen were 20 year vets same with cracker and kat
I’d say they’re around 500-800m

 

[grey matter]

Said this elsewhere and in the bounty prediction thread, but:

King and Queen's bounties were less than a third of Kaido's. Katakuri's bounty was about a fourth of Big Mom's.

And those are the highest (known) bounty commanders under the highest bounty Yonkou. Oda has said Yonkou's crew are commonly raised in tandem with their captains.

Even if Sanji and Zoro were raised in the same kind of parallel with their captain as the ones they beat, that would land Sanji at around 858M and Zoro at 904M. I can imagine they'll get a bit lower than that though, especially if these hints are true.

There is bit of a difference here.
Zoro and Sanji are closer in power level and infamy to their captain, than King/Queen or Katakuri/Smoothie are to their captains.

If there is any comparison to be made, it would be to Shanks' or Roger's crew, since Luffy inherited their will, and parallels are drawn between these.
Shanks' 3 crewmates were specifically named as infamous in their own right.

Plus, there is also the pattern of Zoro always surpassing Luffy's previous bounty 60-120-320

 

[Organizized]

There is bit of a difference here.
Zoro and Sanji are closer in power level and infamy to their captain, than King/Queen or Katakuri/Smoothie are to their captains.

If there is any comparison to be made, it would be to Shanks' or Roger's crew, since Luffy inherited their will, and parallels are drawn between these.
Shanks' 3 crewmates were specifically named as infamous in their own right.

Plus, there is also the pattern of Zoro always surpassing Luffy's previous bounty 60-120-320

Yeah I know, which is why my initial prediction for Zoro and Sanji was 1,520,000,000 and 1,330,000,000 respectively. I'm just trying to rationalize the thought of them not getting that high, lol.

Also you have to consider that they're still like a "rookie Yonkou" crew, the other commanders with really huge bounties had been Yonkou Commanders for years, their bounties being raised along with their captains all the while.

But the Shanks point is why I said "known" bounty specifically, because I can imagine at least Beckmann being much closer to his captain bounty-wise than any other commander.

 

[Fox666]

There is bit of a difference here.
Zoro and Sanji are closer in power level and infamy to their captain, than King/Queen or Katakuri/Smoothie are to their captains.

I disagree, Luffy, Zoro and Sanji were around the level of their opponents

 

[grey matter]

I disagree, both Luffy, Zoro and Sanji were around the level of their opponents

Wrong.

Sanji dominated Queen after getting his powerup, it ended up being extreme diff only because of injuries Sanji got prior to powerup. Sanji wins Mid diff if they both start fresh.
Zoro had some trouble even after getting his powerup. But regardless, Zoro is clearly a cut above King now. Zoro wins high diff if they both start fresh.

Luffy vs Kaido is still debatable, with Kaido going through a heavy gauntlet. General opinion I've see is that Kaido wins extreme diff against Luffy, when both arr at thier full power..

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

All wanted participants in Dressrosa incident got a minimum 50m bounty raise. We can assume that the participation in the defeat of a Yonko should give a higher minimum raise than against Doflamingo, so let’s say 100m. We can assume the minimum raise for taking down 2 Yonko should be higher than taking down 1 Yonko so let’s say a minimum raise of 150m for involvement in Onigashima.

That would make Jinbe at a minimum of 438+150=588m, adding a minimum +50m extra for taking down a Tobi Roppo = minimum 638m bounty. Assuming Oda wants to maintain Monster Trio and that is the sole reason he delayed Jinbe’s recruitment, Zoro and Sanji bounties should be both at least of 648m, and that would be a minimum raise of 318m instead of 150m since Sanji is at 330m and Zoro at 320m (+150m extra for taking down an All-Star).

So SH bounties should be at a minimum of

• Zoro 660m (+150m extra for All-Star and +10m vs. Sanji)
• Sanji 650m (+150m extra for All-Star and +10m vs. Jinbe)
• Jinbe 638m (+50m extra for Tobi Roppo)
• Ussop 350m
• Robin 320m (+50m extra for Tobi Roppo)
• Franky 294m (+50m extra for Tobi Roppo)
• Brook 233m
• Nami 216m
• Chopper 200m (+50m extra for Dressrosa catch-up since they know he is the Doctor)

That would not be that much shocking considering the recap of bounties we had during the 1 month break that showed that there aren’t that much bounties above the 500m threshold even within Yonko crew established for decades with a long list of unpunished actions and destructions.

As for captains, Oda decides to give at least the defeated captain bounties divided by the captain leaders. The 500m billion bounty of Dressrosa was only due to 1B/2 for Luffy and Law’s alliance (Doflamingo being valued at 1B by the Marines since his bounty was frozen) the same way that Luffy’s 3B is due to 9B/3 (BM and Kaido = 9B) for Luffy, Law and Kid’s alliance.

 

[thedude]

Still weird to me that people get angry about the bounties...get a grip people!

 

[Idkwhatanameis]

Wrong.

Sanji dominated Queen after getting his powerup, it ended up being extreme diff only because of injuries Sanji got prior to powerup. Sanji wins Mid diff if they both start fresh.
Zoro had some trouble even after getting his powerup. But regardless, Zoro is clearly a cut above King now. Zoro wins high diff if they both start fresh.

Luffy vs Kaido is still debatable, with Kaido going through a heavy gauntlet. General opinion I've see is that Kaido wins extreme diff against Luffy, when both arr at thier full power..

Believe it or not but physically I think Kaido was at 100 percent durability wise even till the end. But what Luffy hit him with could of been just that much more. I believe luffy combined kings and armament to hit him which i believe was the deciding blow so i still give it to Luffy.

 

[Vizard]

 

[CaptainMarvel]

Oooo buster call?

 

[LJkAze]

Still weird to me that people get angry about the bounties...get a grip people!

People can fight about Bounties all they want, so as long as Vivi gets one too I could care less.

--- Double Post Merged, Aug 22, 2022, Original Post Date: Aug 22, 2022 ---

Alabasta maybe getting Busta Called? But regardless as long we see Alabasta getting Busta Called then cut back to Luffy holding Vivi wanted Poster to end the chapter I'm a happy camper for next couple week if we are going break

 

[kkck]

Yeah I know, which is why my initial prediction for Zoro and Sanji was 1,520,000,000 and 1,330,000,000 respectively. I'm just trying to rationalize the thought of them not getting that high, lol.

Also you have to consider that they're still like a "rookie Yonkou" crew, the other commanders with really huge bounties had been Yonkou Commanders for years, their bounties being raised along with their captains all the while.

But the Shanks point is why I said "known" bounty specifically, because I can imagine at least Beckmann being much closer to his captain bounty-wise than any other commander.

Maybe limited government intel and even luffy's not being that high? Zoro's is usually a fraction luffy's and we are at a point at which the WG is less generous when assigning them. While a 1.5 billion bounty for zoro would be fair it's probably too much when his boss is worth merely 3 billion. I suppose with a 3 billion bounty zoro's bounty would make sense between the 700-1000 million range... And sanji even lower of course. And even that is quite the jump from being worth 320 billion.