Spoiler One Piece Spoiler Hints Discussion

[SupremeMod]

redon posted a (3) 200 gif, (4) rufy nika posing in front of the moon, (1) peak fiction, (2) expanded mythology, and (5) atlantis: the hints don't say anything at all this time :,c

Like the cover of 200? lol Haven't seen Luffy referred to as Rufy in a while.

Atlantis is a reference to the AK.

Man, who's ready for Awakened Enel to show back up? lol

 

[ShishiSonson]

Like the cover of 200? lol Haven't seen Luffy referred to as Rufy in a while.

Atlantis is a reference to the AK.

Man, who's ready for Awakened Enel to show back up? lol

With the fact that his story after Skypia is connected to the main story is sick. He will be back, maybe he is also from an extenguished race.

 

[SupremeMod]

With the fact that his story after Skypia is connected to the main story is sick. He will be back, maybe he is also from an extenguished race.

I had Smashing Pumpkins "Tonight, Tonight" vibes seeing him fly off.

Enel was a Skypean, wasn't he? I always assumed he lost the wings or intentionally forced them into that crap he has on his back after eating his DF.

 

[korwinkrulpolski]

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Another hints by Redon

Actually Luffy is pronounced Ruffy in Japanese, it's correct in some way (like Light was more Raito in Death Note) and if I'm not mistaken in espanol latino dub he's pronounced as Ruffy and in Brazilian Portuguese (such beautiful language) as well.

 

[catagon87]

Man, who's ready for Awakened Enel to show back up? lol

Vegapunk’s dream for infinite power: The enemies we made along the way.

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I remember a ton of us being pretty sure Egghead was going to be a "breather" of an arc like Zou between Wano and Elbaf (including myself). Now Idk what to believe lol I've always figured Elbaf would have to be a massive arc to mirror Wano (complete with a mirror to the Roger flashback for Joyboy), but there was that one hint by Oda that he "probably could avoid the crew going to "that place", but the fans want them to", which I always figured was in reference to Elbaf, sooooo. Hm.

I'm not even sure what the point would be to visiting Lodestar (though I'd like to see it either way). It was described as a place to "learn about the road poneglyphs" somehow, and that Luffy had basically skipped that step.

I honestly don’t remember how I felt about Egghead beyond thinking it’d be something crazy since Vegapunk is there.

My interest in Lodestar is mostly that IIRC Inurashi told them to keep going the way they are, and Lodestar would be along the way. I mostly think it’d be cool to have some adventuring instead of going place to place with clear goals.

 

[meikiyou]

redon latest gif is a cloud being cut and stretched, probably the cloud has paved the way for the thousand sunny

 

[SupremeMod]

Raftel being the AK and with Looney Tunes aspects throughout; which is why it's called Laugh Tale. Roger and his crew couldn't help but laugh. We're getting hints of it, I think with how the giants can't help but laugh at Luffy.

Didn't Oda say he originally wanted his story to be more cartoonish(Looney Tunes/Gear 5)? I think he's building up for that sort of reveal.

 

[Hannibal Psyche]

Raftel being the AK

Laughtale can't be the Ancient Kingdom, it was destroyed by the WG.

Laughtale is an Island no one has ever been on for 800 years until Roger sailed there 25 years ago.

More so, if Laughtale was the Ancient Kingdom, the world government would know where it was and the Real (Rio due to Japanese phonetics) Poneglyph would be in the hands of the WG.

 

[Core D. Roy]

My interest in Lodestar is mostly that IIRC Inurashi told them to keep going the way they are, and Lodestar would be along the way. I mostly think it’d be cool to have some adventuring instead of going place to place with clear goals.

Yeah I've wanted regular adventures for forever now but Oda's had to "rush" through things in a way that doesn't really give time for all the fun adventure stuff. I really wish he'd just do a few pages of montages between arcs like he had with Roger/Oden's journey

 

[Bandit99]

Yeah I've wanted regular adventures for forever now but Oda's had to "rush" through things in a way that doesn't really give time for all the fun adventure stuff. I really wish he'd just do a few pages of montages between arcs like he had with Roger/Oden's journey

This would be great

 

[ShishiSonson]

Laughtale can't be the Ancient Kingdom, it was destroyed by the WG.

Laughtale is an Island no one has ever been on for 800 years until Roger sailed there 25 years ago.

More so, if Laughtale was the Ancient Kingdom, the world government would know where it was and the Real (Rio due to Japanese phonetics) Poneglyph would be in the hands of the WG.

I think everything is connected.
Roger said they were too early. I think he needed Poseidon and Pluton for the One Piece. It is also why Vegapunk says the ancient weapons are important.

In order to acces-activate or anything you wish about One Piece he needs many things, like many things to be in one place, many things together, many things to be one, many things to be One Piece.

I think history is repeating. Like with Rocks and Roger, now Teach and Luffy. At that time, it was probably a similar thing, a battle of ideas which lend to this chaotic world.

 

[Battle Wolf]

Laught Tale may be a high mountain from AK that the ppl from AK put something very special (based on the last spoiler that the world flooded about 200m)

 

[SupremeMod]

Laughtale can't be the Ancient Kingdom, it was destroyed by the WG.

Laughtale is an Island no one has ever been on for 800 years until Roger sailed there 25 years ago.

More so, if Laughtale was the Ancient Kingdom, the world government would know where it was and the Real (Rio due to Japanese phonetics) Poneglyph would be in the hands of the WG.

I'm not gonna go back and read all of your posts but I saw a discussion about Nika and whatnot.

Hasn't it been implied that the DFs come from one's desire/imagination? Assuming Joyboy is from Elbaf and Nika was a God to them wouldn't it make sense that Joyboy would desire/imagine his powers?

The AK was the birthplace of DFs, right? So JB travels to the AK as "the first pirate." Has the same good nature/energy of GR and Luffy. Makes friends and they grant him that ability as a gift.

Also, the whole Eblaf being the land of the giants, that's probably where Zunesha came from too. Oh damn what if they were able to make a fruit for Zunesha and their desire was to grow large?

Hmm what if those exceptionally large beings are also part of the AK?

I'm feeling that Raftel is the AK.

Why wouldn't the WG government in 800 years actually find the RPs and go for themselves? Maybe the AK didn't really "lose" as much as just say "screw you all, we'll chill over here, leave us alone, and we'll leave you alone."

 

[meikiyou]

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Another hints by Redon

Actually Luffy is pronounced Ruffy in Japanese, it's correct in some way (like Light was more Raito in Death Note) and if I'm not mistaken in espanol latino dub he's pronounced as Ruffy and in Brazilian Portuguese (such beautiful language) as well.

it is written in katakana the same way as rafi, rafuteru is raftel if i'm not mistaken, both names recalling the word laugh, or rafu in katakana.

 

[Hannibal Psyche]

Hasn't it been implied that the DFs come from one's desire/imagination? Assuming Joyboy is from Elbaf and Nika was a God to them wouldn't it make sense that Joyboy would desire/imagine his powers?

Joyboy is from the Ancient Kingdom.

Nika is a symbol of god in Elbaph culturally the way Zeus is a god from Greek mytholoy.

When VP said theories, he meant people don't need to theorise about gods existing because when he told SHs Luffy was a god, they said he's an idiot and not a god. VP said they didn't have to theorise if gods exist. DFs do come from hope.

The desire of DFs is not about a specific person desiring a DF. if the world desires the fruit will exist. Anyone can come across the DF and eat. Eating it doesn't mean you wished for it, being able to acquire a DF just means people have desired that power.

Joyboy didn't imagine the power anymore than Luffy desired to be the Nika Nika no Mi user, or Brook desired being the revive revive user.

Buggy's the user of the Bara Bara no Mi and never wanted a DF, so Joyboy being the Nika Nika no Mi doesn't mean he desired it, he found it and ate it like everyone. Most people don't even know what power the DF they're eating does until the power manifests.

The AK was the birthplace of DFs, right?

That has never been stated, DFs come from desire. Not from the Ancient Kingdom.

I'm feeling that Raftel is the AK.

Definitely isn't because Dr. Clover told us the Ancient Kingdom was already destroyed. Laughtale also exists, so it definitely can't be the Ancient Kingdom.

Why wouldn't the WG government in 800 years actually find the RPs and go for themselves?

They can't find it which is why they banned people from studying Poneglyphs.

If people gather the 4 Road Poneglyphs, they'll get the coordinates to Laughtale which is where the entire documentation of the Void Century exists.

Since the WG can't gather the Road Poneglyphs to collect the Poneglyphs with the Void Century for themselves, they don't want anyone studying the Poneglyphs so they have no chance to find it.

Furthermore, this is why the WG like balance between Yonko, Shichibukai and WG. Big Mom had a Poneglyph, Kaido had one too... balance means no Emperor is defeated and everyone is holding on to 1 Poneglyph. If they're all holding Poneglyphs individually, then no one can put all the Road Poneglyphs together.

 

[SupremeMod]

Joyboy is from the Ancient Kingdom.

Nika is a symbol of god in Elbaph culturally the way Zeus is a god from Greek mytholoy.

When VP said theories, he meant people don't need to theorise about gods existing because when he told SHs Luffy was a god, they said he's an idiot and not a god. VP said they didn't have to theorise if gods exist. DFs do come from hope.

The desire of DFs is not about a specific person desiring a DF. if the world desires the fruit will exist. Anyone can come across the DF and eat. Eating it doesn't mean you wished for it, being able to acquire a DF just means people have desired that power.

Joyboy didn't imagine the power anymore than Luffy desired to be the Nika Nika no Mi user, or Brook desired being the revive revive user.

Buggy's the user of the Bara Bara no Mi and never wanted a DF, so Joyboy being the Nika Nika no Mi doesn't mean he desired it, he found it and ate it like everyone. Most people don't even know what power the DF they're eating does until the power manifests.



That has never been stated, DFs come from desire. Not from the Ancient Kingdom.



Definitely isn't because Dr. Clover told us the Ancient Kingdom was already destroyed. Laughtale also exists, so it definitely can't be the Ancient Kingdom.



They can't find it which is why they banned people from studying Poneglyphs.

If people gather the 4 Road Poneglyphs, they'll get the coordinates to Laughtale which is where the entire documentation of the Void Century exists.

Since the WG can't gather the Road Poneglyphs to collect the Poneglyphs with the Void Century for themselves, they don't want anyone studying the Poneglyphs so they have no chance to find it.

Furthermore, this is why the WG like balance between Yonko, Shichibukai and WG. Big Mom had a Poneglyph, Kaido had one too... balance means no Emperor is defeated and everyone is holding on to 1 Poneglyph. If they're all holding Poneglyphs individually, then no one can put all the Road Poneglyphs together.

Just because you state something doesn't make it true. lol You claim JB is from the AK?

I think the giant straw hat at MJ says differently.

Dude yes Nika was a God in Elbaf, which would make sense for the origin of JB.

What the hell do you mean they can't find it? That's literally why I said if they had 800 years I'm pretty sure they could have found the 4 RPs.

I mean Roger did it in what? He set sail at I'm guessing 16 with Rayleigh and then got executed in his 40s? So 24 years give or take a few. You're trying to tell me that with all the power we're seeing from the Elders that they couldn't have just done it themselves? I don't think Roger had to deal with them.

It doesn't make sense unless like I said there was some type of agreement between the AK and the rest of the World(WG) to just leave each other alone.

 

[Hannibal Psyche]

Just because you state something doesn't make it true. lol You claim JB is from the AK?

Not doing that, it's just a fact.

Vegapunk just said it in the last chapter, so no idea what you're talking about.

Instead of calling people liars, maybe check the facgts first. Literally stating what the Manga said.

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I think the giant straw hat at MJ says differently.

Sadly, the hat doesn't prove anything and you're misinformed.

We don't know where the hat comes from, we don't know who it belongs to, the Manga never said who it belonged to. You're just assuming it belongs to Joyboy which could be the case, but you're speculating which is ironic of you calling people out for stating things like facts.

Dude yes Nika was a God in Elbaf, which would make sense for the origin of JB.

Sure.

What the hell do you mean they can't find it? That's literally why I said if they had 800 years I'm pretty sure they could have found the 4 RPs.

Imu literally told us the reason they couldn't find the Poneglyphs 800 years ago was because Nefeltari Lili tricked/betrayed them and the Poneglyhs were spread to places they couldn't locate them.

Won't bother, try reading the Manga or keep making up your own story, lol.

 

[SupremeMod]

VP will definitely not tell us everything we need to know, he doesn't know a lot. He at best knows a thing or 2, and things we already know which the people of One Piece don't know.

I agree, VP doesn't know a lot.

You can't both use him as confirmation while also stating that he doesn't know.

Dude, you can highlight crap all you want but all my points remain.

 

[Hannibal Psyche]

I agree, VP doesn't know a lot.

You can't both use him as confirmation while also stating that he doesn't know.

Dude, you can highlight crap all you want but all my points remain.

They don't, Joyboy is from the Ancient Kingdom.
And the WG can't get hands on the Poneglyph because they can't find it.

You can delude yourself all you want, there's really nothing to debate. But yeah, keep arguing over nothing, lol.

 

[SupremeMod]

They don't, Joyboy is from the Ancient Kingdom.
And the WG can't get hands on the Poneglyph because they can't find it.

You can delude yourself all you want, there's really nothing to debate. But yeah, keep arguing over nothing, lol.

Hey man, I don't mind taking the L.

I was pretty drunk and high when I was posting last time. lol

Everything we're seeing confirms that JB was born in the AK.