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Scopper is the lover of Gerd and Sanji/Erosennin/Meliodas/Mineta type character.

I really hope not, I hate that trope. But makes sense in Luffy/Zoro/Sanji with Roger/Rayleigh/Scopper parallel.
Its pretty fair, every one of them got their dream. Roger got OP, Rayleigh no.1 swordsman, Scopper got what he loves.
 

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My first thoughts on seeing this is it's a very Sanji line and that it might be about Loki talking about Lola.

That's probably something to do with Shank family.
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Just a heads up Oda making us dessert after such a fine cookout then he's going to go on well earned break.
 
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Glad to see scopper take the stage... And him having a child is quite a development. It's basically another demon child for the WG to worry about. I have to wonder how scopper compares to roger and rayleigh considering everything suggests rayleigh was capable of fighting yonko in his prime... To me it does look like things are heading towards the strawhats having 3 yonko level fighters in their crew.
 

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Glad to see scopper take the stage... And him having a child is quite a development. It's basically another demon child for the WG to worry about. I have to wonder how scopper compares to roger and rayleigh considering everything suggests rayleigh was capable of fighting yonko in his prime... To me it does look like things are heading towards the strawhats having 3 yonko level fighters in their crew.
I always felt that to be the case. Sanji really isn't that far behind Zoro and Zoro is already on the cusp of being Yonko level
 

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So scopper Might look like Old Master Roshi.. Wouldn’t be surprised since Oda loves DB and basing an OP character off on his favourite show’s character would be reasonable
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Two axes being shown
Gabban confirmed!!!!
 

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How does any pirate crew actually beat the straw hats currently?like kuzan isn’t beating zoro plus sanji atm. Luffy vs bb doesn’t seem a good match up for bb. And that leaves the straw hats to deal with the 9 other titanic captains? Red hair pirates I guess could maybe
 

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How does any pirate crew actually beat the straw hats currently?like kuzan isn’t beating zoro plus sanji atm. Luffy vs bb doesn’t seem a good match up for bb. And that leaves the straw hats to deal with the 9 other titanic captains? Red hair pirates I guess could maybe
The real answer is nobody beats the Straw Hat Crew due to plot.

The more logical answer is that Blackbeard has gravity to bring his opponents to him, and nullify their ability. It seems to not work to the extent sea-stone does (where sea-stone weakens them beyond power nullification).

Kuzan fought Akainu for 10 days straight and while he ended up losing, he isn't weak. I don't really see Kuzan being a good match up for any of the SHP, so I'm thinking either Luffy defeats him as a prerequisite to the arc where Blackbeard is ultimately defeated, or Kuzan isn't involved in the final showdown at all.

Seems like the match ups will be:
Luffy vs Blackbeard
Zoro vs Shiryuu
Brook vs Lafitte
Jinbe vs Burgess
Chopper vs Doc Q
Usopp vs Van Auger
Nami vs Catarina Devon
Robin vs Avalo
Franky vs San Juan Wolf
Sanji vs ??

Maybe Sanji could fight Kuzan, but I feel like that battle is way more personal for Luffy than it would be for Sanji seeing as how Kuzan spared Luffy, but captured Garp. Kuzan was enough to scare the hell out of the entire Black Beard Crew and have Blackbeard apologizing for their transgressions.
 

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The real answer is nobody beats the Straw Hat Crew due to plot.

The more logical answer is that Blackbeard has gravity to bring his opponents to him, and nullify their ability. It seems to not work to the extent sea-stone does (where sea-stone weakens them beyond power nullification).

Kuzan fought Akainu for 10 days straight and while he ended up losing, he isn't weak. I don't really see Kuzan being a good match up for any of the SHP, so I'm thinking either Luffy defeats him as a prerequisite to the arc where Blackbeard is ultimately defeated, or Kuzan isn't involved in the final showdown at all.

Seems like the match ups will be:
Luffy vs Blackbeard
Zoro vs Shiryuu
Brook vs Lafitte
Jinbe vs Burgess
Chopper vs Doc Q
Usopp vs Van Auger
Nami vs Catarina Devon
Robin vs Avalo
Franky vs San Juan Wolf
Sanji vs ??

Maybe Sanji could fight Kuzan, but I feel like that battle is way more personal for Luffy than it would be for Sanji seeing as how Kuzan spared Luffy, but captured Garp. Kuzan was enough to scare the hell out of the entire Black Beard Crew and have Blackbeard apologizing for their transgressions.
Kuzan might be yonko level but fighting against zoro and sanji this late into the game is a tall order even for yonko tiers
 

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Scopper is the lover of Gerd and Sanji/Erosennin/Meliodas/Mineta type character.

I really hope not, I hate that trope. But makes sense in Luffy/Zoro/Sanji with Roger/Rayleigh/Scopper parallel.
Do you mean the lover of Ripley?
Seems likely at this point. Given the aging of giants in comparison to humans, whoever Colon's dad is is likely quite a bit older. Colon looks pretty similar in build to 18 year old Hajrudin.
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Kuzan might be yonko level but fighting against zoro and sanji this late into the game is a tall order even for yonko tiers
I'm less thinking it because of any power level and more just due to the personal connections he has to Luffy. At this point it'd feel odd to have Kuzan fight someone other than Luffy due to the history he has with their family. Unless Zoro does the thing he did with Lucci and says "You can't fight the captain unless you get through me."

A lot of their ability to fight him also depends on if they can break out of his ice. It seems like for stronger opponents (yonko level) that Kuzan has to weaken them significantly then use his ice to capture them instead of just outright freezing his enemies like we've seen in the past.
 

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Scopper is the lover of Gerd and Sanji/Erosennin/Meliodas/Mineta type character.

I really hope not, I hate that trope. But makes sense in Luffy/Zoro/Sanji with Roger/Rayleigh/Scopper parallel.
Does that mean Sunbell will show up because Jinbe is a top-tier fighter for Luffy as well
 

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Do you mean the lover of Ripley?
Seems likely at this point. Given the aging of giants in comparison to humans, whoever Colon's dad is is likely quite a bit older. Colon looks pretty similar in build to 18 year old Hajrudin.
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I'm less thinking it because of any power level and more just due to the personal connections he has to Luffy. At this point it'd feel odd to have Kuzan fight someone other than Luffy due to the history he has with their family. Unless Zoro does the thing he did with Lucci and says "You can't fight the captain unless you get through me."

A lot of their ability to fight him also depends on if they can break out of his ice. It seems like for stronger opponents (yonko level) that Kuzan has to weaken them significantly then use his ice to capture them instead of just outright freezing his enemies like we've seen in the past.
Zoro has ACoC to break out of the ice and sanji has fire powers, I don’t think kuzan can freeze them. Zoro has gotten more used to his ACoC, and has really high attack power often to one shot even top tiers with a clean hit. Kuzan should not be able to tank many clean hits off zoro. And between sanji’s speed and durability and Zoro’s endurance and rawr attack power. I think kuzan would be in trouble
 

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Zoro has ACoC to break out of the ice and sanji has fire powers, I don’t think kuzan can freeze them. Zoro has gotten more used to his ACoC, and has really high attack power often to one shot even top tiers with a clean hit. Kuzan should not be able to tank many clean hits off zoro. And between sanji’s speed and durability and Zoro’s endurance and rawr attack power. I think kuzan would be in trouble
He tanked punches from Garp and also tanked Akainu for ten days. I don't think tanking hits is his problem. Pretty sure it's been stated that the Magu Magu no Mi is one of, if not the, highest attack power ability in OP.
 

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He tanked punches from Garp and also tanked Akainu for ten days. I don't think tanking hits is his problem. Pretty sure it's been stated that the Magu Magu no Mi is one of, if not the, highest attack power ability in OP.
I’m not sure if he would have tanked a galaxy impact from garp’s punches are sadly below luffies in terms of AP. Zoro’s slashes have better scaling currently then garp due to the damage he did kaido. Also Zoro’s slashes have one shot yc1’s with clean hits. Garps punches actually haven’t. So I think zoro actually has better AP feats than garp. Although I think lore wise garp should win. Garp was kind of also fighting an many vs 1 vs kuzan.
 

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The two axes confirm it. The guy is Scopper Gaban. If the hairstyle and name weren't enough give aways then I have to say this may be the most useful hint Redon has ever posted.
 

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I guess I should expect Sunbell to show up if Gaban is. Sanji is #4 after all, so it makes sense if Sunbell is the #3 that shows up to compliment Jinbe. Heheh.
 

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Where are people getting the 2 axes thing from? Did I miss a hint somewhere?
 
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