Spoiler One Piece Spoiler Hints Discussion

[Trip_LLL]

Possibly. Might be actual Oden stuff but since it is a bit early for Momo, it might be a general hint at father and son, yes.

Oh that's a great interpretation of it. So Moria and his pops.

 

[Federicoxxx]

Maybe dad's was a grave digger...who knows..
but he must had some inspiration from some place or someone to be like dat


como subir

 

[Trip_LLL]

U really take what Oda say for time sense? When last time he is correct about time his planning?, n who else can be relate to Whitebeard if its not part Rocks pirate?

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So we still dont know why the GV acccident happen.

Man, believe me, we are not disagreeing. I just don't think you're understanding the way I write, and I'm still really concerned about being able to communicate with you if we're at a point where Sept 2019 is exactly 1 year after December 2017.

But, who else can be related to whitebeard if not part of Rocks? It really depends on how coy Oda wants to be.
If we jump from Wildcard's idea, Whitebeard might be connected to Garland if Garland's the one who gave whitebeard the wound that aches when he sees Shanks.
Oda likes being coy and open-ended on those messages. He can twist things however he needs to in order to keep the options open.

 

[baditz]

Man, believe me, we are not disagreeing. I just don't think you're understanding the way I write, and I'm still really concerned about being able to communicate with you if we're at a point where Sept 2019 is exactly 1 year after December 2017.

But, who else can be related to whitebeard if not part of Rocks? It really depends on how coy Oda wants to be.
If we jump from Wildcard's idea, Whitebeard might be connected to Garland if Garland's the one who gave whitebeard the wound that aches when he sees Shanks.
Oda likes being coy and open-ended on those messages. He can twist things however he needs to in order to keep the options open.

I m not sure where i read it, but Oda talk lurking legend are kind of "the real pirate thing", but for that quote i maybe wrong, read it long time ago,,
Well we all make theory and assume, no 1 wrong until it reveal,,

It just either Imu or Garland not worth as "lurking legend", because to be legend u must need to be know their story, none Imu or garland are make sense to be "legend" in curent era because they are suppose to be secret n not doing much to be well know.

 

[ShadowHeart]

So xebec are the lurking legend?
If he is a "lurking", its not mean he still alive in current timeline?

Could be his will or there's a popular theory Rocks inside his son Blackbeard. And that's why Blackbeard can eat 2 DF since he has another soul inside him.

 

[Trip_LLL]

I m not sure where i read it, but Oda talk lurking legend are kind of "the real pirate thing", but for that quote i maybe wrong, read it long time ago,,
Well we all make theory and assume, no 1 wrong until it reveal,,

It just either Imu or Garland not worth as "lurking legend", because to be legend u must need to be know their story, none Imu or garland are make sense to be "legend" in curent era because they are suppose to be secret n not doing much to be well know.

Actually, for some reason, that first about real pirate thing sounds familiar. I havent seen that term used in a long time though, so it might not be in one of the easy to find interviews.

Regarding the second part, allow me to show my perspective:
Rocks. No one really knew about him in the current era of marines. He was scrubbed. Before that moment with Garp, we knew nothing about him. I think he qualifies as a "lurking legend" if he's still alive. Hopefully he's not hiding in Blackbeard's body or something.

Imu. This is where I dont understand your reasoning. The 20 kings are a legend that everyone knows. Iva was able to possibly identify Imu straight due to his knowledge of the 20 kings. So, how can you say Imu, one of the first 20 kings, IS NOT a legend in the one piece world? And how can you say he is not "lurking:" when one of the definitions of lurking is remaining hidden so as to wait in ambush.
Imu is hiding. Imu qualifies as a lurking legend. Literally.

Now, Garland. He turns into a lurking legend only if you look at it from the perspective of the readers. I think Imu has a stronger claim.


Edit: Just need to add that I hope Rocks isn't actually rocks right now, as in turned to stone because of Hancok's fruit. But honestly, that detail Boa dropped back then is really odd in a narrative sense.

 

[baditz]

Actually, for some reason, that first about real pirate thing sounds familiar. I havent seen that term used in a long time though, so it might not be in one of the easy to find interviews.

Regarding the second part, allow me to show my perspective:
Rocks. No one really knew about him in the current era of marines. He was scrubbed. Before that moment with Garp, we knew nothing about him. I think he qualifies as a "lurking legend" if he's still alive. Hopefully he's not hiding in Blackbeard's body or something.

Imu. This is where I dont understand your reasoning. The 20 kings are a legend that everyone knows. Iva was able to possibly identify Imu straight due to his knowledge of the 20 kings. So, how can you say Imu, one of the first 20 kings, IS NOT a legend in the one piece world? And how can you say he is not "lurking:" when one of the definitions of lurking is remaining hidden so as to wait in ambush.
Imu is hiding. Imu qualifies as a lurking legend. Literally.

Now, Garland. He turns into a lurking legend only if you look at it from the perspective of the readers. I think Imu has a stronger claim.


Edit: Just need to add that I hope Rocks isn't actually rocks right now, as in turned to stone because of Hancok's fruit. But honestly, that detail Boa dropped back then is really odd in a narrative sense.

Well, i admit i thought Imu are the living legend before,,
But since Rocks flashback, slowly i just has feeling are the Rock the living legend Oda talking about, but to be lurking he must be alive, i do have theory why he maybe still alive,,

 

[Kuroiyaiba]

Edit: Just need to add that I hope Rocks isn't actually rocks right now, as in turned to stone because of Hancok's fruit. But honestly, that detail Boa dropped back then is really odd in a narrative sense.

You know I had the same idea and shared it here, not too long ago as this would explain Blackbeard‘s interest in Boa‘s DF. But I simply hope it‘s not the case. Also I don‘t like the Rocks is inside Blackbeard‘s body theory.

 

[Core D. Roy]

Could be we'll see kid Moria. It'd be interesting if he too was a God Valley survivor, which is how he ends up with Thriller bark later.

It is strange how he ended up with the corpses of a bunch of Rocks Pirates

 

[Federicoxxx]

It is strange how he ended up with the corpses of a bunch of Rocks Pirates

or took the time to find where the hell were buried... for example John didnt die in G.V.. died later on. . so is not like he found G.V and start digging up... he probably was Kabutoin'g.. and manage to get info.. about the place they were buried....

 

[Core D. Roy]

You know I had the same idea and shared it here, not too long ago as this would explain Blackbeard‘s interest in Boa‘s DF. But I simply hope it‘s not the case. Also I don‘t like the Rocks is inside Blackbeard‘s body theory.

"A man's dream never dies" would go from the coolest line in the story to like four letter grades lower

 

[WILDCARD 1 7]

It is strange how he ended up with the corpses of a bunch of Rocks Pirates

Well the dude was a Warlord for at least over a decade, that would have give certain amount of accessibility and Intel and that's how he got them all. Well that's my theory anyway.

 

[Core D. Roy]

I would rule out Imu, too. Since Imu is keeping their very existence a secret from practically everybody.

If they're kept a secret from everyone, doesn't that make Imu sort of the exact opposite of a legend? Likewise, Rocks was "erased" and is only a legend to the handful of people that even know he existed. I think it was just meant to mean the Kaidou, "lurking legend" couldn't be more apt for him and as a Rocks Remnant he was related to Whitebeard by proxy.

edit lol i just saw you already replied to somebody else saying something similar >_>

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Well the dude was a Warlord for at least over a decade, that would have give certain amount of accessibility and Intel and that's how he got them all. Well that's my theory anyway.

well yah that's the simplest explanation but damn near all of these characters are intertangled with each other back in the day and moria's no exception- the only thing we really know about his backstory is that he used to tussle with kaidou, so there's a rocks connection.

 

[Federicoxxx]

Whateaver info he had..to find the bodys..it must have been pretty daam good...most of what ROCKS did..or who where the Exact members..was ERASED from History itself... i mean probably half of the planet knew about WB... as a pirate..but AS a ROCKS MEMBER?...PFFFF..probably very very few people alive, or in the goverment... even more obscure is to find, the place they got buried.... talking about TOP NOTCH INFO,

first you have to know, about ROCKS ITSELF...

Who where the members?...

Where the deuce they are buried..

imagine finding Gill bastar,, a character SO OBSCURE,, literally designed to be a BG char,, that not even appears in the animu ver,,hell i could bet we are never goin to see it along the full crew... but, he find his corpse..

and yeah all of that,,to barely gave them a Kickass screen time,,, all of them got Squashed like bugs...thats kind of sad...

Cmon men...thats Ganzui.. and got Knocked away by a PRE-TIMESKIP FRANKY.. i guess if all of them were like Ryuma´s nobody could have survived...so the "shadow" depending issue,, it is in most case helpful...except if you have to deal with Ryuma.. in that case you are totally FKED if you are not good as zoro at that time..

 

[WILDCARD 1 7]

well yah that's the simplest explanation but damn near all of these characters are intertangled with each other back in the day and moria's no exception- the only thing we really know about his backstory is that he used to tussle with kaidou, so there's a rocks connection.

I can see Moria being like Loki in that he came to look up the Rocks that's just my theory though.
And a lot of people now seem to think that he was at GV that's a slave like Kuma with this new hint.

I mean Oden ran into Xebec's kid BB while sailing with WB Xebec's old crew mate so this is that far-fetched

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Oh great Rocks fans are going even crazier now with this one saying it's Garp and Roger.

 

[Trip_LLL]

I can see Moria being like Loki in that he came to look up the Rocks that's just my theory though.
And a lot of people now seem to think that he was at GV that's a slave like Kuma with this new hint.

I mean Oden ran into Xebec's kid BB while sailing with WB Xebec's old crew mate so this is that far-fetched

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Oh great Rocks fans are going even crazier now with this one saying it's Garp and Roger.

A double KO is pretty exciting though. Must mean we're definitely getting a quick exchange. Only question I have... is the double KO a comedy spot between Rocks pirates members

 

[Federicoxxx]

it can be anything..even a comedy gag..between Silver axe and Shiki... just to mention an example... i really dont think this chapter, is goin to be nowhere near godvalley,, i mean LIKE THEY ALREADY ON THE ISLAND...... i honestly have NO IDEA..what is goin to happen....AT LEAST I want to know HOW T-F WG kidnapped Shakky...IT must have been when at least XEBEC, wasnt in the island... it must be- cant conceive, the WG being Sneaky enough like for Snatch her, while he is there-...

 

[Kuroiyaiba]

Saint Garling incoming

 

[Core D. Roy]

Saint Garling incoming

I take it we're speeding right along to God Valley

 

[kg21tmac11]

I think HP said and I will agree with him after the fact. It was Kaido that the lurking legend was referring too and the whole white beard part was Marco and the other whitebeard pirate. Forgot his name. Forgive me.