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[kkck]

He is back... lol

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seems the chapter also,,is goin to show us more of Sanji as Okama .. hahaha

To me that kinda reads like Killingham is going to materialize sanji's nightmares. It's also worth stressing that sanji's time as an okama happened before his training with iva and was a result of an okama using some strange technique on him.

 

[Federicoxxx]

To me that kinda reads like Killingham is going to materialize sanji's nightmares. It's also worth stressing that sanji's time as an okama happened before his training with iva and was a result of an okama using some strange technique on him.

The breaking point

 

[TitaniumOxide]

Idk guys but the Sanji getting CoC thing...he should get it but rn it is so forced...

 

[Federicoxxx]

Idk guys but the Sanji getting CoC thing...he should get it but rn it is so forced...

Technically..is not something you can attain trought training..so is not like we can say..:

Hey how the hell did they get it without a training time skip!?

But,, yeah is kinda forced..both of them got it..amidst key battles, both at the same time,, just right when is the only thing capable to beat Gks

Part of the plot i guess..

 

[kkck]

The breaking point

OP anime? Not even once.

 

[Zehahaha]

Idk guys but the Sanji getting CoC thing...he should get it but rn it is so forced...

I mean he clearly did get CoCk at Okama Island

 

[baditz]

Fell weird today see many post say Sanji unlock CoC atleast this early are are force, that what i say, for Zoro Oda seem give him a clue since he fight Monet, n reveal it at Wano, n need ajust it for 3 arc, meanwhile Sanji not just out of no where unlock, he just direct master awaken CoC.

 

[AmyRose]

To me that kinda reads like Killingham is going to materialize sanji's nightmares. It's also worth stressing that sanji's time as an okama happened before his training with iva and was a result of an okama using some strange technique on him.

To me that wasn't weird technique. It was just mix of manipulation and harassment. You know, because miss Replacement Queen was constantly looking at Sanjis crotch whenever he tried to fight back and that IS harassment. Anyone would be embarrassed and she framed it as if Sanji is meant to be okama because of that. Also I hope Killingham is unable to use his power for anything else. Zaza is apparently his max limit because 1. she's made of his own nightmare and 2. she's pretty big and powerful so he could lose control over her if he would try to make another nightmare monster to fight Sanji. I suspect this wouldn't work anyway because only thing that Sanji can't fight is a woman so Sanji will keep fighting Killingham no matter what he would summon.

 

[kkck]

To me that wasn't weird technique. It was just mix of manipulation and harassment. You know, because miss Replacement Queen was constantly looking at Sanjis crotch whenever he tried to fight back and that IS harassment. Anyone would be embarrassed and she framed it as if Sanji is meant to be okama because of that. Also I hope Killingham is unable to use his power for anything else. Zaza is apparently his max limit because 1. she's made of his own nightmare and 2. she's pretty big and powerful so he could lose control over her if he would try to make another nightmare monster to fight Sanji. I suspect this wouldn't work anyway because only thing that Sanji can't fight is a woman so Sanji will keep fighting Killingham no matter what he would summon.

Looking at the chapters, the manga never references a weird technique. Apparently it's just the anime? In the manga all that is show is that sanji is chased by okama and in the next cover story he has been converted. No idea if whatever the anime filled this with is canon or not.

That said, if the framing here goes for sanji's nightmares being materialized... then we could get a very direct look at what happens when you confront and defeat your fear. Sanji also does not have any issue whatsoever attacking okamas. He fought them for two years after all.

 

[electricmastro]

I guess we have the Conqueror’s Trio now. I look forward to further developments.

 

[Federicoxxx]

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Killingham pulls out Sanji’s nightmare and looks like Sanji is going to fight that nightmare. While Killingham occupies the body of the nightmare.

So it looks like Sanji will unlock Color of Conqueror’s after defeating this thing, thus overcoming his weakness/fear.

if confirmed..it seems Sanji is goin to fight an Okama version of himself.. or maybe Ivankov... for real..


a fusion... according to worstgen

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Killingham pulls out Sanji’s nightmare and looks like Sanji is going to fight that nightmare. While Killingham occupies the body of the nightmare.

So it looks like Sanji will unlock Color of Conqueror’s after defeating this thing, thus overcoming his weakness/fear.

if confirmed..it seems Sanji is goin to fight an Okama version of himself.. or maybe Ivankov... for real..


a fusion... according to worstgen

Looks like.. Killingham also can posesses other people nightmares.. himself, not just radio control them..

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To me that kinda reads like Killingham is going to materialize sanji's nightmares. It's also worth stressing that sanji's time as an okama happened before his training with iva and was a result of an okama using some strange technique on him.

You were right!! but not only materialize.. also fuse. / posess personally..

 

[kkck]

The spoilers feels like it has a different vibe than the end of the last chapter. I know it ended with the hell memories stuff but leaning into the okama stuff after apparently calling sanji on his willingness to end his life sounds strange. I could have bought sanji's time as an okama shattering his sense of self and impeding him to develop as a proper conqueror haki but covering that and sanj failing to value his life properly feels like somehow covering too much ground. As if sanji now is going to deal not with one piece of trauma but rather 50 different ones all at once. If sanji's nightmare is also his okama self I'd be surprised if it doesn't have duval's face.

On a slightly different note, I suppose if sanji does conquer his traumas it'd be interesting to see what happens to killinham's nightmares once the originator conquers his fear. Because the nightmares seem nigh immortal but you'd think they would disappear if the source of the nightmare is gone. Which could even leave killingham exposed.

I will say that a one piece okama gundam was not in my bingo card this year.

 

[Federicoxxx]

The spoilers feels like it has a different vibe than the end of the last chapter. I know it ended with the hell memories stuff but leaning into the okama stuff after apparently calling sanji on his willingness to end his life sounds strange. I could have bought sanji's time as an okama shattering his sense of self and impeding him to develop as a proper conqueror haki but covering that and sanj failing to value his life properly feels like somehow covering too much ground. As if sanji now is going to deal not with one piece of trauma but rather 50 different ones all at once. If sanji's nightmare is also his okama self I'd be surprised if it doesn't have duval's face.

On a slightly different note, I suppose if sanji does conquer his traumas it'd be interesting to see what happens to killinham's nightmares once the originator conquers his fear. Because the nightmares seem nigh immortal but you'd think they would disappear if the source of the nightmare is gone. Which could even leave killingham exposed.

I will say that a one piece okama gundam was not in my bingo card this year.

Strangely..THE NIGHTMARE..is not the Okama version of Sanji's more than nightmare,,,thats 1000% embarassement,, to remember,, it seems Sanji's true nightmare it was Iva himself.... mostly for the hell he made Sanji's pass trough,, and kinda make sense that beating his own INNER NIGHTMARE, at the same time he is beating Killingham .... i think Killingham made a mistake and put himself a HUGEEEEEE GIANT ASS TARGET ON HIMSELF...for Sanji's unleash all his fury and beating him awakening SUPREME COC.... i think it goes that way.

is like teasing your enemy with a costume that bring him fear... but he overcome it, and rip you to pieces.. in anger..

 

[Trip_LLL]

I just want to say that Zoro, with no guidance, learned to generate illusions that all characters could see with no guidance, offscreen, and those illusions were capable of inflicting damage. Sanji learned to ignite his leg while not getting burned. The science of that burning leg eludes Queen.

Both of them getting Conq after being continuously exposed to it thanks to Luffy and later Zoro leakage, and going up against tough enemies is not more egregious than the near miracles of before.
Luffy learned how to see the future because he clashed with Katakuri. Literally seeing the future after going from only knowing the power existed. In the span of one battle.
And this is where people are drawing the line? On Conqs? In a world where its solidified that Haki is sharpened in combat?

If you really think Conqs is crazy, I need you to explain to me how Zoro developing an entirely unique technique that no one understands is somehow less noteworthy than these two developing a generic power whose main gates are self-image and genetics.

My point is, when you get to basics, this is just One Piece being One Piece.

 

[kkck]

Strangely..THE NIGHTMARE..is not the Okama version of Sanji's more than nightmare,,,thats 1000% embarassement,, to remember,, it seems Sanji's true nightmare it was Iva himself.... mostly for the hell he made Sanji's pass trough,, and kinda make sense that beating his own INNER NIGHTMARE, at the same time he is beating Killingham .... i think Killingham made a mistake and put himself a HUGEEEEEE GIANT ASS TARGET ON HIMSELF...for Sanji's unleash all his fury and beating him awakening SUPREME COC.... i think it goes that way.

is like teasing your enemy with a costume that bring him fear... but he overcome it, and rip you to pieces.. in anger..

That still feels like it needs something else to make sense. I can buy the nightmare being what sanji needs to awaken his CoC. But it doesn't really mesh well with his self hatred that seemingly gets in the way of his sense of self if this is supposed to have something to do with how he easily puts his life at risk. There's also the consideration that Iva apparently is going to explain sanji's weakness (unless it turns into a gag about sanji not having it in him to be a newkama).

 

[acurabot]

It would be funny if Sanji's nightmare was getting turned into a girl by Ivankov, and when he sees Killingham make this a reality, he finally loves himself thus unlocking CoC

 

[Federicoxxx]

That still feels like it needs something else to make sense. I can buy the nightmare being what sanji needs to awaken his CoC. But it doesn't really mesh well with his self hatred that seemingly gets in the way of his sense of self if this is supposed to have something to do with how he easily puts his life at risk. There's also the consideration that Iva apparently is going to explain sanji's weakness (unless it turns into a gag about sanji not having it in him to be a newkama).

it is both --- one is the self Hatred-- and another whole thing is beating an Inner fear-- that Kiillingham is just using against him---but not really a factor for awaken supreme coc.. i think that beating the nightmare itself have nothing to do with supreme cock awakening.

he is goin GET rid of self hatred and being always the sacrificial lamb.... awaken supreme cock ;aND beat a travestite looking killingham just using one of his nightmares... IN THAT ORDER

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I GUESS SANJI'S started to kick lazers again...

 

[TitaniumOxide]

Technically..is not something you can attain trought training..so is not like we can say..:

Hey how the hell did they get it without a training time skip!?

But,, yeah is kinda forced..both of them got it..amidst key battles, both at the same time,, just right when is the only thing capable to beat Gks

Part of the plot i guess..

Sure seems like he got it after training his mind... as opposed to unintentional CoC release from different people like Doflamingo or Luffy.

It bothers me the way Sanji is unlocking CoC

I mean he clearly did get CoCk at Okama Island

Well played lmao

 

[costicla]

Yep, Sanji is getting Super Hell memories with this flashback. I am also glad Killingham is using his fruit in the fight, it seemd that after his power-up, he just made the Zaza nightmare and then fought with his new fancy weapon against Sanji. He does have a pretty powerful fruit, would have been a shame not to use it.

 

[Federicoxxx]

I have a couple of question:

1) How's killingham is goin to react..when he found out Sanji's worst nightmare was Iva? a Giant Okama?
he is goin to tease him or mock Sanji's ?...

2) How Killingham is goin to react,,, towards having 2 fuse with with an Okama? ..will he be ok to that? ...
imagine having to dress you like a Tranny to beat someone XD