Seinen Onepunch Man by ONE & Yuusuke Murata

[goldb]

I haven posted anything for some time and would like to know how the info that comes from the original and hasn't being already relealed in the redrawn version is handled here? I haven't read the original comic and don't want to read spoilers. Please. Thanks in advance.

As ONE's series is ahead of Murata's please simply label and include any discussion regarding the Webtoon in spoiler tags.

 

[HereNThere]

Man, as much as I complain about the pacing, this chapter actually clicked for me in what it sets up way better.

Spoiler: Webcomic Spoilers

There is now a tangible reason for Darkshine's retiring in the Webcomics. Before, it was just his loss of confidence in himself that caused him to step down from the Association. But now, his muscles have actually been compromised for the first time, so that changes things a lot. That said, his strength should still exist, so it also keeps the setup for his return in play.

The severe loss in this version is definitely setting up the significant loss of power on the Associations end and makes way for the Neo Heroes in a much more consequential way.

 

[Samael Morningstar]

Man Furher Ugly is the MVP of the monster association lol
I just hope in future we get a short arc related to darkshine and how he comes back even stronger

 

[FetherMan]

Latest finally shows Garou's monster form and looks like he and Fang will be duking it out. Black Sperm is about to go super saiyan, too.

 

[ukimix]

https://tonarinoyj.jp/episode/3269754496373404204 new chap out

 

[FetherMan]

Latest finally shows Garou's monster form and looks like he and Fang will be duking it out. Black Sperm is about to go super saiyan, too.

Golden Sperm, right on cue.

 

[XXGenesis]

So I’ve been spoiled quite some years ago after watching the anime….Monster Garou & Golden Sperm have been hyped forever!! Finally we are here in Murata’s version….

 

[Yvain]

You know, I have been wondering for some time... why are Plasma Maiko and Homeless Emperor considered monsters, but Pig God and Green aren't...? Both heroes have bodies that deviate greatly from the human standard...

And there is Watchdog, who could be a Customed Monster who merged with his dog suit...

Hell, even Darkshine and Tatsumaki could be monsters...

And most S-class heroes fit the "obsession" thing that is supossed to create monsters... Pig God is obsessed with eating, Darkshine is obsessed with muscles, Tatsumaki is obsessed with being powerful enough to be absolutely self reliant...

Could it be that the difference between monsters and heroes is merely social? Evil cyborgs are called monsters, but Genos isn't.

Same for mutants... Mosquito Girl is a monster, while Zombieman is a hero, despite both being created the same way...

 

[HereNThere]

Dr. Genus basically explained the differences in detail in Chapter 86.

The main dividing line is that Mysterious Beings/Monsters have a complete hatred of humanity and want to wipe it out.

Before getting his ability, Homeless Emporer literally was about to commit suicide because he hated humanity so much.

On the flip side, Heroes, of course, want to protect humanity or just destroy monsters using their various skills to do so. Their abilities, talents, and modifications may even stem from that want.

Genos modified his body with the intention to hunt the Cyborg that murdered his family. He doesn't hate humanity.

Tatsumaki and Zombieman could have potentially turned to Mysterious Being under different circumstances, but Tatsumaki still had her sister and Zombieman just seems like a decent guy who only blames the House of Evolution and not humanity as a whole for his situation.

Darkshine just polished his physique to incredible levels and wasn't mutated at all. He's Saitama with a limit basically.

Watchdog is literally just a super strong furry at this point in time. We don't know what his real deal is, but I find it likely that his gag will be that he just takes his role super seriously as a watch dog.

Pig God is the same in that we don't know much about him. He's just a dude who likes to eat and, seemingly, uses monsters as a means to sate his hunger. That said, there have been hints that there is more to him than we are currently aware of.

 

[Yvain]

Dr. Genus basically explained the differences in detail in Chapter 86.

Not really. As Genus said, monsters can be created by science (cybors, genetic manipulation) and heroes too. No real difference among those, beyond how they look and on what side they fight.

Then we have heroes who were born powerful or with the potential to become powerful vs monsters who mutated at some point due to excessive negative emotions, but there are heroes who pretty much sit on the border... They just look human enough and fight on Humanity's side...

The main dividing line is that Mysterious Beings/Monsters have a complete hatred of humanity and want to wipe it out.

Before getting his ability, Homeless Emporer literally was about to commit suicide because he hated humanity so much.

On the flip side, Heroes, of course, want to protect humanity or just destroy monsters using their various skills to do so. Their abilities, talents, and modifications may even stem from that want.

Genos modified his body with the intention to hunt the Cyborg that murdered his family. He doesn't hate humanity.

Tatsumaki and Zombieman could have potentially turned to Mysterious Being under different circumstances, but Tatsumaki still had her sister and Zombieman just seems like a decent guy who only blames the House of Evolution and not humanity as a whole for his situation.

So, basically it depends on what side they are.

Darkshine just polished his physique to incredible levels and wasn't mutated at all. He's Saitama with a limit basically.

We have seen his past self: He was a regular, weak guy who was despised and bullied because of his weakness, and then he started to weighlift and he became a 3 meter tall giant with the body mass of an elephant and muscles, bones and skin as hard and durable as steel. That is very monster-like... frustration fueling a physical transformation... he might just be deluded about the origin of his strength, believing it to be a consequence of his training rather than a mutation triggered by negative emotions.

I understand that Darkshine's appearance may largely be due to artistic license (Murata Yuusuke tends to be quite inconsistent when portraying large characters), but even if he changed from a 170 cm guy to just a 270 cm one, that's still something you can't get by lifting weights...

Watchdog is literally just a super strong furry at this point in time. We don't know what his real deal is, but I find it likely that his gag will be that he just takes his role super seriously as a watch dog.

It is true that we don't know enough about him. We'll see what his deal is in the future.

Pig God is the same in that we don't know much about him. He's just a dude who likes to eat and, seemingly, uses monsters as a means to sate his hunger. That said, there have been hints that there is more to him than we are currently aware of.

He can swallow alive and digest monsters bigger than himself. He can transport several living beings inside his stomach. His body obviously doesn't work the same way a human's. And there is an obsession component that fits a monster transformation...

My general impression is that most of the S-rank heroes could be monsters, they just look human enough and fight on the side of Humanity. If Plasma Maiko or Homeless Emperor had walked into the Hero Association headquarters and signed as a heroes, nobody would call them monsters...

 

[Samael Morningstar]

Superalloy Darkshine is fodder asf

 

[lexx]

Superalloy Darkshine is a less prison-rapey controversial puri-puri-prisoner.

 

[HereNThere]

Superalloy Darkshine is fodder asf

Far from it. His issue is his confidence basically. His physical abilities are 2nd only to Saitama and, maybe, Blast.

Hell, the acid left a flesh wound on him, but considering that it instantly melted everyone else, it's still impressive.

So, basically it depends on what side they are.

I mean, yeah.

Darkshine is an exaggeration of a body builder, right down the questionable rendering of the tanning oil. He grew a few feet due to excerising, so what? He's in the company of ninjas who can train themselves to attack faster than a millisecond, a prisoner who can grow their hair instantaneously to protect their naked body, and a samurai who can atomize whatever he cuts with sword swings.

All impossible to achieve in real life, but they are still portrayed as humans. They canonically trained themselves to reach those ridiculous heights.

Pig God is questionable, but he's an unknown and has been still presented as human up to this point.

My general impression is that most of the S-rank heroes could be monsters, they just look human enough and fight on the side of Humanity. If Plasma Maiko or Homeless Emperor had walked into the Hero Association headquarters and signed as a heroes, nobody would call them monsters...

You are on to something that I can't get into, but it's not solely appearances that determine one's monster hood.

Look at Garou. He's a regular dude who is literally walking the line between becoming a monster or remaining human. He's not committed, but he was still sought out while being a straight up human. Hell, he did not even have explicit powers like Homeless Emporer
He just beat up a lot of heroes.

Maiko, Homeless Emporer, Psykos, and that sexy Dom chick all pass as human, moreso than a decent handful of S Class heroes, but they wouldn't join because they are presumably too far gone to even pretend they care about people.

 

[Samael Morningstar]

Far from it. His issue is his confidence basically. His physical abilities are 2nd only to Saitama and, maybe, Blast.

Hell, the acid left a flesh wound on him, but considering that it instantly melted everyone else, it's still impressive.




I mean, yeah.

Darkshine is an exaggeration of a body builder, right down the questionable rendering of the tanning oil. He grew a few feet due to excerising, so what? He's in the company of ninjas who can train themselves to attack faster than a millisecond, a prisoner who can grow their hair instantaneously to protect their naked body, and a samurai who can atomize whatever he cuts with sword swings.

All impossible to achieve in real life, but they are still portrayed as humans. They canonically trained themselves to reach those ridiculous heights.

Pig God is questionable, but he's an unknown and has been still presented as human up to this point.



You are on to something that I can't get into, but it's not solely appearances that determine one's monster hood.

Look at Garou. He's a regular dude who is literally walking the line between becoming a monster or remaining human. He's not committed, but he was still sought out while being a straight up human. Hell, he did not even have explicit powers like Homeless Emporer
He just beat up a lot of heroes.

Maiko, Homeless Emporer, Psykos, and that sexy Dom chick all pass as human, moreso than a decent handful of S Class heroes, but they wouldn't join because they are presumably too far gone to even pretend they care about people.

Well those who were melted were all fodder in durability and physicals, not to mention Golden sperm negged it.
Speaking of GS I think the manga might give him another big transformation

 

[HereNThere]

Well those who were melted were all fodder in durability and physicals, not to mention Golden sperm negged it.
Speaking of GS I think the manga might give him another big transformation

Not everyone is fodder, lol. Atomic Samurai is most definitely not fodder and he would've been done in just as easily. The "fodder" sacrificed himself to save Atomic.

Golden Sperm =/= Darkshine. He's a uniquely powerful Dragon level threat, which we'll see more of soon.

I doubt he will get another form. Probably just act as an expansion of the skipped form.

 

[Samael Morningstar]

Not everyone is fodder, lol. Atomic Samurai is most definitely not fodder and he would've been done in just as easily. The "fodder" sacrificed himself to save Atomic.

Golden Sperm =/= Darkshine. He's a uniquely powerful Dragon level threat, which we'll see more of soon.

I doubt he will get another form. Probably just act as an expansion of the skipped form.

Atomic samurai's durability is fodder tho even singular black sperms can give big damage to Atomic

 

[Tirl]

His physical abilities are 2nd only to Saitama and, maybe, Blast

Actually, Bang nodiffs him. But yes, DS is insanely strong. Just not as strong, as many could think. He needed 15 minutes to beat Asura. And Asura is not like the strongest dragon.
We even have Bomb right here, who stood against much more powerful Garou than which DS fought. And Bomb doesn't have deflecting style like his brother

 

[HereNThere]

Actually, Bang nodiffs him. But yes, DS is insanely strong. Just not as strong, as many could think. He needed 15 minutes to beat Asura. And Asura is not like the strongest dragon.
We even have Bomb right here, who stood against much more powerful Garou than which DS fought. And Bomb doesn't have deflecting style like his brother

Y'all got me defending Darkshine like I like this dude, lol.

Darkshine lost to Bang, but not due to physical power. It was technique. Bang can stomp literally everyone not named Saitama in CQC due to his skill. The only one he'd probably have trouble with is Flashy Flash who, outside of his brother, is probably the most proficient CQC specialist.

Edit: Looking back now, it seems Garou did end up matching Darkshine's strength.

Asura might not be the strongest Dragon, but he's still a Dragon and 15 minutes ain't exactly long. He isn't instant merking him like Tatsu could, it's still impressive I'd say. Hell, Darkshine was doing rather well against Black Sperm and it's also likely he'd have been a better match up against President/Furor Ugly.

The way I see it, the S-Class basically occupy different stat specialties. Some specializations are superior to others in certain situations, but less formidable in others.

Bang stomps in CQC, but Metal Knight last bot might not be his best match. On the flipside, Darkshine would probably end up being a better match. And this goes for all the S Class in my opinion, sans Blast and Tatsu.

 

[ukimix]

https://cubari.moe/read/imgur/zSLibrz/1/1/ new chapter out

 

[Samael Morningstar]

HIS TIME HAS COME........

 

[FetherMan]

The next chapter with King versus the remaining Executives will be funny as hell. I remember the webcomic version awhile back and how hilarious there interactions were. Can't wait for the next one.