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re: Lobo
- it feels like a rip-off of the movie Chocolat.

re: parallel manual churva
- id rather trust a piece of black machine than gloria.
 

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re: Lobo
- it feels like a rip-off of the movie Chocolat.
It is actually a rip-off of the kdrama Gumiho (Nine-tailed fox, no not Naruto) that was dubbed by ABS-CBN way back in 2006-2007 IIRC. Almost every aspect of the Gumiho and the Lobo are the same, up to Angel Locsin's being the most powerful heir, etc., and Piolo's being a government agent that hunts them.

Oh man, I think I'm starting to know too much about dramas. (shameless segue into more manly things) So, who else is disappointed by the latest Impreza?
 
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@ kuro
- too bad, haven't seen Gumiho. Chocolat's a bit a like that. whoever did it, its a nice story nonetheless.
 

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At the risk of turning my back on my patriotic UP roots, the problem with Philippine fiction is lack of source material. Both our mythology and our history just plain suck.

Take a look at mythology. Japan has a complicated creation mythology involving Izanagi, Izanami, Amaterasu, Susano'o, etc. while ours is the piddly story of Malakas and Maganda (a bamboo tree snapped and they were there, yay). Other legends are Mariang Makiling, Bernardo Carpio, Binibining Magayon, etc. also don't have something worthy of a story. Aswang are better off in third rate horror movies rather than in serious stuff. And if ever there are good stuff that can be taken from there, they'd been done before.

Now, history. For one, our national hero (Jose Rizal) is most famous for writing stuff, womanizing and getting shot. Yay. Our next best national hero (Andres Bonifacio) is a gangster from Tondo who has no other redeeming qualities. Most of the other heroes are only notable for getting killed. No one can be portrayed as "superheroish". Compare this to the samurai during Japan's Sengoku, Bakumatsu, and Taira/Minamoto era or to the legendary kings and Queen's of Korea's Joseon and Gojeon dynasties.

So, our fiction writers are relegated to writing stuff that can never be epic or those that need great creativity to pull off, and that is rare. In the end, the only thing we can really write about is about our political-economic situation, and that does not always make good entertainment.
 

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what part of our myth/legend/folklore would be suited for a comic? i'm planning on doing web comic. any ideas? or does it have no hope?, cause even our hero rizal is too boring for a comic(lacks violence).
Or mabe a tribesman war would be good?(manobo,waray,etc.)
 

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what part of our myth/legend/folklore would be suited for a comic? i'm planning on doing web comic. any ideas? or does it have no hope?, cause even our hero rizal is too boring for a comic(lacks violence).
Or mabe a tribesman war would be good?(manobo,waray,etc.)
The battles between the tribes of the Visayas would be nice, but there's very little written history, so you'll have to fill an awful lot of blanks while doing a lot of research. Probably the story of one warrior under Lapu-lapu. This would feature a lot of kali/eskrima between the tribes of Humabon, Lapu-lapu, and the Aeta of Panay. It would be inclusive of the coming of Magellan. The conflict would probably between the old ways of Lapu-lapu and the more accepting Humabon.

To make it work, you'll need to employ a lot of artistic license, but I can see it working. And if you're into fight scenes, eskrima and its different weapon styles (dual stick/sword, knife, and hand-to-hand) are beautifully violent.
 
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how 'bout the assassination of Bonifacio by Aguinaldo sparked a revolution within the heart of a Katipunero which led to an uprising against the 1st president, but eventually a failure which led to the Katipunero's graceful death in battle. man.. that's a bit heavy drama.. hehe

on second thought, looks cliche. hmmm..
 
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Sheesh. Never knew reading from Vol. 1 of HxH could be so time consuming... when I'm not bumming around, i mean. But the art I complained about is actually bearable now, for some reason. :s



what part of our myth/legend/folklore would be suited for a comic? i'm planning on doing web comic. any ideas? or does it have no hope?, cause even our hero rizal is too boring for a comic(lacks violence).
Or mabe a tribesman war would be good?(manobo,waray,etc.)
hello there, friend. When you say web comic, like a koma? or funnies? or like graphic novels?

actually, i'd been to komikons in the past (how sad I couldn't go this year :crying) and i observed that the whole agimat, tribes tribes thingies, have been done before, and are still being done today, which blows my mind seeing the same shit over and over again, like there's no other filipino aspect to tap but the old bahay kubo days. -_-

which is why I like Arnold Arre's work "After Eden" a lot. Although that could be argued to be set anywhere, not necessarily the Philippines. He's had "Mythology Class" which was pretty much Agimat-y also...

Or why Zaza Zaturna was probably such a hit too was because it was mocking Philippine pop culture.

You could go for slice of life. Closest to that would be Pugad Baboy (which I lurve) and Beerkada (more for the college market), but they're all gags.

Well. So far I haven't encountered any serious (or a little light but with drama, or romantic comedy) slice of life themes by Filipinos. I think we need more of that. :thumbs


Take a look at mythology. Japan has a complicated creation mythology involving Izanagi, Izanami, Amaterasu, Susano'o, etc. while ours is the piddly story of Malakas and Maganda (a bamboo tree snapped and they were there, yay). Other legends are Mariang Makiling, Bernardo Carpio, Binibining Magayon, etc. also don't have something worthy of a story. Aswang are better off in third rate horror movies rather than in serious stuff. And if ever there are good stuff that can be taken from there, they'd been done before.
I digress. Those stories I believe to be quite rich. It's just the writer's way of reinterpreting it to make them flourish.

You can observe that with manga. Look at Takehiko Inoue's retelling of Musashi's life. That's not super-hero but a real life character, which he amplified with poetry and his amazing art. with a liberal take on things.

You could take a random fictional character and set it in real history like Rurouni Kenshin. How about making a filipino character set in some important transition period in our history?

We can't really blame it on poor history or literature. That's highly debatable. You have to rely on the writer's/artist's capability to bring the story to new heights.


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whoa! it's another tl;dr post. xD

btw, just came from a wedding of my barkada. so sad to think na dati we never even thought of marriage...

(and the rest of my barkada was acting funny. like, imagining what their own version of the groom's outfit will be when they get married.)
 

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I digress. Those stories I believe to be quite rich. It's just the writer's way of reinterpreting it to make them flourish.

You can observe that with manga. Look at Takehiko Inoue's retelling of Musashi's life. That's not super-hero but a real life character, which he amplified with poetry and his amazing art. with a liberal take on things.

You could take a random fictional character and set it in real history like Rurouni Kenshin. How about making a filipino character set in some important transition period in our history?

We can't really blame it on poor history or literature. That's highly debatable. You have to rely on the writer's/artist's capability to bring the story to new heights.
On Vagabond, it is still superhero-ish. Yes, Musashi is a flawed "superhero" but he is a "superhero" nonetheless (rf. the 30 kills in one night fight, undefeated streak), akin to how Frank Miller portrayed Batman.

For a story to be commercially successful, it's almost a necessity for one of the protagonists to be larger than life and we simply lack characters that are like that. As you said, Rurouni Kenshin would be a good example of an implementation of history without relying on a larger-than-life historical figure (except Saitou Hajime).

I dunno, in the end, it's just me being envious and bitter, I guess. I want our history and culture to shine in our mainstream entertainment. the way our neighbours' in East Asia do. Right now, though, it seems that we're stuck in a downward spiral of negativism towards our culture. Most of our mainstream hits portray the negative side of life, and as that goes on we get less proud of our heritage, and then we portray the negative side more.

Well, looking at the bright side, At least we're not an entirely suicidal people like the Koreans are. Maybe we just want to be stuck in a bad place so we can prove how good we are at diversity.

whoa! it's another tl;dr post. xD

btw, just came from a wedding of my barkada. so sad to think na dati we never even thought of marriage...

(and the rest of my barkada was acting funny. like, imagining what their own version of the groom's outfit will be when they get married.)
I remember the times when I used to be like that, too :D.

However, now that the first set of my barkada is turning 30, it's an entirely different thing. I've seen the one I love get hurt over and over again in failed relationships and despite my best efforts to be just there for her without asking for anything back, all I get in return is an almost complete denial of my existence and our memories together. Now that she's 30, she'll gonna want to be married soon, and it's best for the both of us if she just goes ahead and do that and forgets about me.

I don't think I can be bothered getting into relationships and thinking about them anymore.
 

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considering the trend of marriages these days, and given that your friend is the same age as you, I'd say he's quite young to get married.

and how come you guys never post anything? this thread needs a mascot like duchess, and a cracked guy like yonie~! :yelling


tch, that's why I'm still waiting for some Pinoy to come up with light slice-of-life stories or romantic comedies (not "The Wedding" ni Anne curtis and Zanjoe, although I did watch that from beginning to end) graphics.

I guess there are no stories like that in the graphics scene here because all the artists and writers are men. There are no women in the industry yet. Too sad I'm not inclined to doing graphic novels. :p I just read them.
 
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considering the trend of marriages these days, and given that your friend is the same age as you, I'd say he's quite young to get married.

and how come you guys never post anything? this thread needs a mascot like duchess, and a cracked guy like yonie~! :yelling
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tch, that's why I'm still waiting for some Pinoy to come up with light slice-of-life stories or romantic comedies (not "The Wedding" ni Anne curtis and Zanjoe, although I did watch that from beginning to end) graphics.

I guess there are no stories like that in the graphics scene here because all the artists and writers are men. There are no women in the industry yet. Too sad I'm not inclined to doing graphic novels. :p I just read them.
I agree, we need more feel-good slice-of-life rom-coms. I thrive on rom-coms :D. Call it a childish taste in entertainment, but if it's not action or rom-com I don't even bother, hehe. If I wanted to be melodramatic I can just get stuck in my own life.
 

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kuroihikari said:
I don't think I can be bothered getting into relationships and thinking about them anymore.
Just had a weird dream. I'd just post my interpretation:

I'd be a bitter bachelor, living alone, hating the world... Wait a minute...

Now that I think of it, maybe I'm reading/watching too much Batman...
 

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*sigh* women... unless they're aliens, you can't really expect much from them. *sigh*
 

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Is this the part where we scare BB away with our internet misogyny?
 

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What is internet misogyny?


So yeah I'm kinda blanked out and hyped up right now. The reason? Came from the movies. IRON MAN 2 FTW!!!!
 
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the hell!!?? we just got quaked here! 4.5M
 

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So yeah I'm kinda blanked out and hyped up right now. The reason? Came from the movies. IRON MAN 2 FTW!!!!
Internet misogyny is misogyny internetz-style.

re: IM2. Man, I so want to watch it, but I can't find anyone to come with. It's been getting great reviews so far, as a more than worthy successor to IM1.

the hell!!?? we just got quaked here! 4.5M
"Here" being where?
 

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panay po. 15km off of iloilo city. not that crazy, but lasted quite long.

i never thought i'd fit in under my desk, but i did. LOL


panay po. 15km off of iloilo city. not that crazy, but lasted quite long.
 
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Darned COMELEC and the non-working Precintfinder
 
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