Discussion Post Time-Skip Quality (and the 6-chapter megathread extravaganza)

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Spoiler

Art? Direction? New characters? Overall quality?

What say you?




I find it difficult to address 6 chapters individually, compartmentalized. It doesn't make sense to discuss 6 chapters' worth of dumped content of post-skip direction all in 556 discussion, nor to talk about 551 much as we already know what the next 5 chapters hold. To me, at least.

Zooming out, big-picture thread.





Personally, I'm still processing. lol

 

[Ignorant]

Art is little better than the first season but not better than 2, 3

Direction 10/10
Is on point the series advanced in these 6 ch more than the whole “3 season first part” lol

Overall quality is 7/10
Resolution image is garbage.

but 7 cause he put out 6 great chapter in term of history and content we get to see zahard again and a family head in a serious matter so we can imagine some escenarios of the past battles
both family top shelf warrior were put out to light.

Yuri is alive thing that was a mystery thanks to that blog post of SIU suggesting that she could die in season 2

 

[O_n_Sly]

clean T/l def needed, but for now I recommend getting down the timelines then the scenes will makes sense

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The introduction of Tara the brute is a pleasant surprise!

 

[sazon]

I particularly liked everything in general.

The art is better than many parts of Nest, although that 3D Lobadon house was hilarious.

The combat scenes are also more fluid, like in Yuri's scenes.

The story went a lot too, we had movement in all the central plots of this arc, new characters and the return of others that we were waiting for and it still ended with a good cliffhanger.

Anyway, this lap was better than the last with that meaningless game of the second wall.

 

[O_n_Sly]

That meaningless game actually served a greater purpose - isolate Baam to absorb White’s daemon and meet with Mas! A case could be made that if Baam didn’t absorb White he wouldn’t of been able to absorb Levi.

Baam didn’t need any rest after absorbing Levi, and was ready to go!***

@sazon

 

[sazon]

Still meaningless, everything you say is merely speculation, Baam is a black hole, he can absorb anything, was the nest made in order for Baam to absorb levi? Ok, I accept that, but it still continues an arc that was poorly executed and added almost nothing to the story.

 

[Demonspeed]

• Interesting setting without tension all the time which makes things better for Baam as a character.
• Androssi is back.
• Yuri is back.
• A.A. can do his thing without Baam for a while(recently it's either a hit or miss when they are together).
• More 10 Families politics.

All the chapters have been good but the 3 last ones have been very, very good.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

was the nest made in order for Baam to absorb levi?

Good point, actually. And this is a tip of the hat to one thing Sly has been spazzing out about - that Kirin boldly asked if that's what Rei did - putting himself at risk on purpose. A 'test' if you will. I don't think it was THE test (Rei wanted Baam in cuffs handed over either way), but it could have been an above-and-beyond bonus that Rei was shocked to see the results of.

Maybe Rei is playing Zahard. Maybe Rei wanted his memories back one way or another. Maybe Rei thought only an irregular that can be on his level could accomplish the jailbreak of Levi (he's correct). As Sly would say - Baam passed this test.

My headcanon is that Rei knew it was a remote possibility, and took a flyer on Baam being able to pull it off, but had set his expectations pretty low.

 

[sazon]

• Androssi is back.
• Yuri is back.

I just need Killua boy back now

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Good point, actually. And this is a tip of the hat to one thing Sly has been spazzing out about - that Kirin boldly asked if that's what Rei did - putting himself at risk on purpose. A 'test' if you will. I don't think it was THE test (Rei wanted Baam in cuffs handed over either way), but it could have been an above-and-beyond bonus that Rei was shocked to see the results of.

Maybe Rei is playing Zahard. Maybe Rei wanted his memories back one way or another. Maybe Rei thought only an irregular that can be on his level could accomplish the jailbreak of Levi (he's correct). As Sly would say - Baam passed this test.

My headcanon is that Rei knew it was a remote possibility, and took a flyer on Baam being able to pull it off, but had set his expectations pretty low.

I understood that Rei wanted Baam, but after he had absorbed the leviathan, there was no longer any doubt about it.

And boy, after that dialogue with Zahard, my theory that Rei was a V and Arlen simp and got tricked by Zahard got a lot stronger.

BTW, he dies in this war and I'm not in the mood for another Yas-style surrender

 

[Ignorant]

Greatest thing SIU Did was kill perseus and owl

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For that this 6 going to be remember forever.

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Is like:

fans: reading the boring chapter 1,006 in year 2,030

random fan: you remember 7 years ago? When siu came back from hiatus and killed perseus and owl?

random fan answering in 0.07S: yeah that was great no like this weak shit we have now.

 

[O_n_Sly]

Good point, actually. And this is a tip of the hat to one thing Sly has been spazzing out about - that Kirin boldly asked if that's what Rei did - putting himself at risk on purpose. A 'test' if you will. I don't think it was THE test (Rei wanted Baam in cuffs handed over either way), but it could have been an above-and-beyond bonus that Rei was shocked to see the results of.

Maybe Rei is playing Zahard. Maybe Rei wanted his memories back one way or another. Maybe Rei thought only an irregular that can be on his level could accomplish the jailbreak of Levi (he's correct). As Sly would say - Baam passed this test.

My headcanon is that Rei knew it was a remote possibility, and took a flyer on Baam being able to pull it off, but had set his expectations pretty low.

I understood that Rei wanted Baam, but after he had absorbed the leviathan, there was no longer any doubt about it.

And boy, after that dialogue with Zahard, my theory that Rei was a V and Arlen simp and got tricked by Zahard got a lot stronger.

BTW, he dies in this war and I'm not in the mood for another Yas-style surrender

Finally y’all making sense!!! So I went back to 555 idk if anyone picked up on Traum saying some one with great influence was able to leak out messages of the competition in short time for it to make its way to Zahard. Then Zahard gave the order to RED.

Quite a bit of info there!!! 1st off gotta give JH his flowers, he’s definitely the most prominent member! 2nd Zahard is not pleased to hear about the proposal understanding how it affects the balance of power!!! 3rd interesting how Zahard is keeping it quiet by sending assassins!!! Hopefully we see more members of RED!!!

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The You Too/ Me Too comments make more sense now! Gustang wants to continue climbing the tower and Eduan does too, Mas knows this and does as well! Traum’s family gaining Baam prevents all that and I take it Gustang fears Traum rising in power, as would Eduan. Gustang thought AA was aware of this too but then realized AA is going out of curiosity!!! But AA will quickly grasp the situation when he meets Baam!

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The current situation is worthy of Luslec to make an appearance maybe another FH!!! Traum’s friend!!!

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Finally y’all making sense!!! So I went back to 555 idk if anyone picked up on Traum saying some one with great influence was able to leak out messages of the competition in short time for it to make its way to Zahard. Then Zahard gave the order to RED.

Quite a bit of info there!!! 1st off gotta give JH his flowers, he’s definitely the most prominent member! 2nd Zahard is not pleased to hear about the proposal understanding how it affects the balance of power!!! 3rd interesting how Zahard is keeping it quiet by sending assassins!!! Hopefully we see more members of RED!!!

^ one of your more insightful posts.

The You Too/ Me Too comments make more sense now! Gustang wants to continue climbing the tower and Eduan does too, Mas knows this and does as well! Traum’s family gaining Baam prevents all that and I take it Gustang fears Traum rising in power, as would Eduan. Gustang thought AA was aware of this too but then realized AA is going out of curiosity!!! But AA will quickly grasp the situation when he meets Baam!

Then, you had to go and ruin it with this ^

 

[O_n_Sly]

Pretty sure he’s still talking about both families tho

 

[Jammin]

I just caught up to the non-spoiler chapters. So up to 556 and I'm really impressed so far. Big jump in quality from where the series was at in the previous arcs and before the hiatus.

Couple specific points.

Noticeably better pacing, it's a lot less rushed and the plotting is more coherent. He's pulled back a lot on what he's trying to do in each chapter which benefits the overall experience a lot because he's telling the story in those chapters more effectively.

Refocusing on the strengths of the series. Character-wise, we've got Rachel being evil. We've got Khun dealing with conspiracies. We've got Androssi right in the middle of things. Yuri is going to be entering the picture. Our antagonists aren't midbosses but truly epic family heads. And all this is happening within the setting of a game of sorts. With rules and players. When I sit down to read tower of god this is pretty much exactly what I want, and he's giving it to me.

Artistically it's fine. Better than where it was before to be sure. For one thing everything isn't just floating in space. I'm pretty happy he decided to do this hotel location. I'm finding that refreshing. It's not amazing or anything but this is ToG... not Solo Leveling. It's meeting expectations just fine for me.

Plot wise, this story is the most fun thing ToG has done in a long while. It seems like SIU is having fun with it and I am too.

So yeah, I'm fully on board.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

I will have to agree with the consensus. Maybe that's just because I was suffering from withdrawal and it hits harder now (having built up a tolerance peaking with the Nest). But, it does seem like SIU shook a lot of the problems he was facing. Not 100% but it doesn't have to be.

I know he's built up a lot of material so as to be able to drop 6 chapters and 2 a week later out of the blue, but I hope he gets into a groove and paces himself. Pushing himself too hard didn't help anything - his health or the quality. Hopefully we get routine, regular breaks.

It also feels like the pace is where it needs to be.

 

[King Dryst]

It's been quality so far. We'll see how that holds up when SIU burns through whatever backlog he'd built up prior to the return and has to return to churning out a new chapter on a weekly deadline.

 

[Jammin]

While absence does make the heart grow fonder, as they say. I think the improvement here is very noticeable. Or actually maybe "improvement" isn't the right word. Because for a while previously SIU had been putting out content that didn't feel like ToG to me.

I was honestly a little concerned he'd just lost the magic. Which happens to authors now and again. The last few arcs really felt like he'd lost his way creatively in a few ways and I just wasn't certain he'd be able to get ToG back to being the series that pulled me in originally. That's the most encouraging thing about this return to me. This doesn't just feel like ToG, this feels like great ToG.

One clear example of this was in 555.

The introduction of Po Bidau Tiara. SIU introduced a lot of characters he was trying to hype in the last few arcs. A lot of which fell pretty flat. The problem was he'd just throw them out there with some expository dialogue saying "This person is important" or awkward flashback which just makes them feel like filler characters. With her introduction. He used Gustang and Khun to make the introduction, two characters we know well or whose opinions carry weight with us. Then sort of hid her face for the first few panels, as if he was teasing it, and then finished out the intro with a shared panel spread with her and Yuri. Suggesting visually, that maybe she's comparable to Yuri. She may or may not be, that doesn't really matter, the important thing is that is how you peak interest in a new character. That kind of focus is what makes a character not feel like a mob and makes readers actually recognize them as being important.

It's a relatively small thing with a big impact. And it's what I think SIU is really good at when he focuses on it.

 

[Demonspeed]

The problem with the Nest arc IMO is that the characters weren't interesting enough. Too many named Rankers/High Rankers that in the end aren't going to be memorable.

It feels like most didn't even like Yama, who IMO got some good development in this arc.

SIU always delivers, even though sometimes there are some really boring phases .

 

[King Dryst]

It feels like most didn't even like Yama, who IMO got some good development in this arc.

SIU seemed to deliberately pick the worst possible moments to go to his side of the story.

 

[Wha]

It feels like most didn't even like Yama, who IMO got some good development in this arc.

What exactly are you referring to?

I sure hope that you don't mean his bromance with Yas.....