Discussion Ranking the Sins

[Pietro]

I'm Not saying Escanor is not human.Having demon's blood in his veins don't make him lose his human nature.
I think Escanor is the son of a demon very well known and a human.This demon is Lucifer.His name in Latin means"Light's bringer",and over more he is well known in hell for his prode,and He is at the second Place in the hell just after Satan that is rapresented with the sin of wrath (meliodas )Nothing of Strange? I dont believe is just a coincidence.
About merlin I Believe she is of the godness clan

 

[Livewire12]

I'm Not saying Escanor is not human.Having demon's blood in his veins don't make him lose his human nature.
I think Escanor is the son of a demon very well known and a human.This demon is Lucifer.His name in Latin means"Light's bringer",and over more he is well known in hell for his prode,and He is at the second Place in the hell just after Satan that is rapresented with the sin of wrath (meliodas )Nothing of Strange? I dont believe is just a coincidence.
About merlin I Believe she is of the godness clan

That theory is closer to fan fiction then something that would actually happen.

Sorry, but he's just a human with an insane amount of power.

 

[Notice me Escanor senpai]

If anything it's Merlin who should be associated with Lucifer. Her ST is called Morning star Aldan , Lucifer being usually translated as "Morning Star" which happens to be the planet Venus.Aldan is the name of Merlin's mother in the legends.
Most of the sins don't really fit the crimes they commited, if not at all. So just like Diane didn't kill Matrona out of envy, Escanor might not embody his sin. Nakaba uses the deadly sins rather loosely, I remember when Merlin was introduced Nakaba himself wondered if she shouldn't be the sin of Lust, rather than that of Gluttony.

 

[Livewire12]

Most of the sins don't really fit the crimes they commited, if not at all. So just like Diane didn't kill Matrona out of envy, Escanor might not embody his sin. Nakaba uses the deadly sins rather loosely, I remember when Merlin was introduced Nakaba himself wondered if she shouldn't be the sin of Lust, rather than that of Gluttony.

Ban, King, and Diane are misunderstandings.

Everyone else probably fits there's.

Meliodas is definitely wrathful, he did destroy danafor, and implies he has worse sins that he must atone for by carrying around that dragon handle broken sword.

Escanor is definitely full of himself during the day. Wouldn't put him past him to do something stupid during the day, without regard for others, his bio says he hates going out during the day for fear of what he might do, so even he thinks he's capable of it.

I know gowther is guilty. He could kill a town full of people on a whim and wouldn't bat a eye.

And I wouldn't put it past merlin to be guilty with how shady, secretive, manipulative she is. She probably did something to satisfy her curiosity, or meet a goal.

Everyone else seems to be capable of their sin other than those 3.

I guarantee at the bare minimum at least Gowther will be 100% guilty.

 

[overlordpringerx]

By the end of the manga i think the strongest sins will be Mel, King and Escanor.

 

[Livewire12]

By the end of the manga i think the strongest sins will be Mel, King and Escanor.

That's exactly what the rankings are right now.

1. Escanor 32500+(blessed/cursed with power)
2. Meliodas 32500+(demon clan memeber)
3. King 10,000-11,000(leader of one of the great races).

These 3 being the strongest make the most sense, when comparing their status to the others(a doll, a bandit, a magician, and one of many giants).

Unless merlin turns out to be the fallen queen of the goddess clan or something.

 

[overlordpringerx]

That's exactly what the rankings are right now.

1. Escanor 32500+(blessed/cursed with power)
2. Meliodas 32500+(demon clan memeber)
3. King 10,000-11,000(leader of one of the great races).

These 3 being the strongest make the most sense, when comparing their status to the others(a doll, a bandit, a magician, and one of many giants).

Unless merlin turns out to be the fallen queen of the goddess clan or something.

King at his base is currently weaker than Merlin.

 

[Livewire12]

King at his base is currently weaker than Merlin.

Yes, and at the strongest we've seen him he was almost at 11k.

So your point is what exactly?

You don't want to include his highest known power level as part of the rankings?

 

[Amplitude404]

King at his base is currently weaker than Merlin.

With a point of his finger hell impale Merlin faster that she can react...

 

[Holt]

With a point of his finger hell impale Merlin faster that she can react...

What's the guarantee that King can attack faster than Merlin can teleport? If we're talking base King, it's illogical to think he'd even be able to get her before she either teleports herself, him or Chastefiol. She could also use the perfect cube as defense and even Galan couldn't breach it. King's highest PL is less than half of Galan's at the time so he likely can't breach it either.

 

[Livewire12]

What's the guarantee that King can attack faster than Merlin can teleport? If we're talking base King, it's illogical to think he'd even be able to get her before she either teleports herself, him or Chastefiol. She could also use the perfect cube as defense and even Galan couldn't breach it. King's highest PL is less than half of Galan's at the time so he likely can't breach it either.

He didn't say he couldn't break it at all.

He said he couldn't break it easily, which implies he could if needed(or wanted) to, but didn't want to put forth the effort to kill two kids and a pig.

Huge difference.

 

[overlordpringerx]

With a point of his finger hell impale Merlin faster that she can react...

I don't know, King relies on magic a lot, which Merlin can cancel.

 

[Rescorlian]

Ban is the weakest sin right now

 

[dark123]

For me this discussion is pointless now. We clearly are going the same pattern as in Kongou Banchou. At the beginning Mel was stated to be the strongest then it was changed now he got his power back but we dont know his real power, the peak of his power. If we get some kind of numbers about Mels power lvl it will be only in his base form and that is all. Maybe Escanor is stronger than Mel in his base form but Meliodas has at least two more stages of power. Merlin knows only the power of Meliodas base form because he has never used even his demon mark form. Mel said himself that he returned a little bit to his old self so he probably still can not activate his demon mark form and next stage " darkness form". And it makes sense because he just have got back his power and like we know even if Nakaba gave us a bit informations about Mel, we still know nothing. Before we see his real power he has to learn how to use it and we are not even in halfway through story. Nakaba can not show us now that Mel is walking grim reaper with unparalleled power because this is not how he planned story. We will be getting more informations about Mel and his power step by step until the end of story.
Now about Escanor. He was hyped because he is probably the goddesses experiment, but he is still human and he can not be as strong as his creators because it would be without sense. Maybe he is container of their powers or maybe some kind of link to the world that let goddesses return. We know that demons and goddesses are equal. Experiment(creation) can not be stronger than creator So there is limit to his power.

Well we know one thing. Mels peak has to be under 300k because he can not defeat all commandments. But is the sum of commandments powers really 300k? They had to be around 30k power lvl but it is impossible. There are weaker and stronger commandments. For me sum of their real power is beyond 450k because Zeldris and Estarossa have to be at least around 70k. So it makes sense why Mel even in his full power can not kill all of them.

 

[Holt]

He didn't say he couldn't break it at all.

He said he couldn't break it easily, which implies he could if needed(or wanted) to, but didn't want to put forth the effort to kill two kids and a pig.

Huge difference.

I know that but for a being of 26k power level saying it wouldn't be easy to destroy (he says 'even me') indicates it's something kind likely can't do. With a 6k difference in PL, Mel stomped Galan in 5 seconds. With a difference of 15k between Galan and King, something difficult for Galan to do would practically be impossible for king.

 

[Rescorlian]

For me this discussion is pointless now. We clearly are going the same pattern as in Kongou Banchou. At the beginning Mel was stated to be the strongest then it was changed now he got his power back but we dont know his real power, the peak of his power. If we get some kind of numbers about Mels power lvl it will be only in his base form and that is all. Maybe Escanor is stronger than Mel in his base form but Meliodas has at least two more stages of power. Merlin knows only the power of Meliodas base form because he has never used even his demon mark form. Mel said himself that he returned a little bit to his old self so he probably still can not activate his demon mark form and next stage " darkness form". And it makes sense because he just have got back his power and like we know even if Nakaba gave us a bit informations about Mel, we still know nothing. Before we see his real power he has to learn how to use it and we are not even in halfway through story. Nakaba can not show us now that Mel is walking grim reaper with unparalleled power because this is not how he planned story. We will be getting more informations about Mel and his power step by step until the end of story.
Now about Escanor. He was hyped because he is probably the goddesses experiment, but he is still human and he can not be as strong as his creators because it would be without sense. Maybe he is container of their powers or maybe some kind of link to the world that let goddesses return. We know that demons and goddesses are equal. Experiment(creation) can not be stronger than creator So there is limit to his power.

Well we know one thing. Mels peak has to be under 300k because he can not defeat all commandments. But is the sum of commandments powers really 300k? They had to be around 30k power lvl but it is impossible. There are weaker and stronger commandments. For me sum of their real power is beyond 450k because Zeldris and Estarossa have to be at least around 70k. So it makes sense why Mel even in his full power can not kill all of them.

The discussion always was pointless to you. For now all we know is that Escanor is a human, we're not sure if he's related to Goddess. Plus there are plenty of scenarii where creations are more powerful than their creators, but let's keep that away.
I hope we won't get too much of Elisabeth, this would be so annoying when there are so many more interresting things to look for

 

[Gallon]

For me this discussion is pointless now. We clearly are going the same pattern as in Kongou Banchou. At the beginning Mel was stated to be the strongest then it was changed now he got his power back but we dont know his real power, the peak of his power. If we get some kind of numbers about Mels power lvl it will be only in his base form and that is all. Maybe Escanor is stronger than Mel in his base form but Meliodas has at least two more stages of power. Merlin knows only the power of Meliodas base form because he has never used even his demon mark form. Mel said himself that he returned a little bit to his old self so he probably still can not activate his demon mark form and next stage " darkness form". And it makes sense because he just have got back his power and like we know even if Nakaba gave us a bit informations about Mel, we still know nothing. Before we see his real power he has to learn how to use it and we are not even in halfway through story. Nakaba can not show us now that Mel is walking grim reaper with unparalleled power because this is not how he planned story. We will be getting more informations about Mel and his power step by step until the end of story.
Now about Escanor. He was hyped because he is probably the goddesses experiment, but he is still human and he can not be as strong as his creators because it would be without sense. Maybe he is container of their powers or maybe some kind of link to the world that let goddesses return. We know that demons and goddesses are equal. Experiment(creation) can not be stronger than creator So there is limit to his power.

Well we know one thing. Mels peak has to be under 300k because he can not defeat all commandments. But is the sum of commandments powers really 300k? They had to be around 30k power lvl but it is impossible. There are weaker and stronger commandments. For me sum of their real power is beyond 450k because Zeldris and Estarossa have to be at least around 70k. So it makes sense why Mel even in his full power can not kill all of them.

Neither Meliodas nor his brothers will be above 50K-ish in their fighting states. IF (and only if) power levels indeed work in terms of percentage, and IF Meliodas somehow reaches his peak at 100K, which is the triple of what he has now, he will still not fight in his berserker state; that's something which he has little control over and is not recommended as he can harm allies.
That being said, the three brothers will likely be close to 45K in their demon mark states.

He didn't say he couldn't break it at all.

He said he couldn't break it easily, which implies he could if needed(or wanted) to, but didn't want to put forth the effort to kill two kids and a pig.

Huge difference.

Galan most likely needs his magic to dispel Perfect Cube. Physical attacks and ordinary magic attacks seem to be futile against it.

 

[HereNThere]

Yeah, I agree, the discussion is pointless. Merlin already said that Escabro was the strongest Sin. And since we are using the authors other works as a measure of series progression, in the authors oneshot, Owner of the Sun, the main character, Gawain (who looks like Escabro) slayed a demon dragon with a power strangely similar to Sunshine, which obviously means, at the end of the Nanatsu no Taizai, Escabro will destroy Mel in a battle since the oneshot ended like that. The sword he used to kill the demon dragon even had a face on it, similar to Rhitta. I don't know about you guys, but that's all the proof I need and you know what, it's more closely related to Nanatsu no Taizai because of the time period, which makes me doubly correct. Prove me right!

 

[Rescorlian]

Yeah, I agree, the discussion is pointless. Merlin already said that Escabro was the strongest Sin. And since we are using the authors other works as a measure of series progression, in the authors oneshot, Owner of the Sun, the main character, Gawain (who looks like Escabro) slayed a demon dragon with a power strangely similar to Sunshine, which obviously means, at the end of the Nanatsu no Taizai, Escabro will destroy Mel in a battle since the oneshot ended like that. The sword he used to kill the demon dragon even had a face on it, similar to Rhitta. I don't know about you guys, but that's all the proof I need and you know what, it's more closely related to Nanatsu no Taizai because of the time period, which makes me doubly correct. Prove me right!

Pretty much a very solid theory.

Btw, reading the Byzel arc again, I still find the fact Ban wasn't able to regenerate against the fresh demon blooded Jericho very weird. That means even something way lower than the purgatory flames or sunshine would give him huge troubles. Or maybe Nabaka just screwed up, because Ban was stronger afterwards than red demon hendrickson

 

[julymarte]

maybe it was more related to her godspeed ability? maybe it depends on the kind of demonic ability idk