Discussion Ranking the Sins

[Isaiah Thomas]

Not sure if serious or trolling

Gloxiana has a zero on physical stats so if Gilthunder hit him hard enough he could hurt him really bad but giving that Gloxiana has his Drop of Life Gilthunder could never win. It's basically the Ban killing Melascula situation Ban is physically stronger then her that why he was able to snap her neck like that.

 

[Rescorlian]

Gloxiana has a zero on physical stats so if Gilthunder hit him hard enough he could hurt him really bad but giving that Gloxiana has his Drop of Life Gilthunder could never win. It's basically the Ban killing Melascula situation Ban is physically stronger then her that why he was able to snap her neck like that.

But why should we consider only Glonixia's strength PL ?

 

[Isaiah Thomas]

But why should we consider only Glonixia's strength PL ?

I'm not saying we should only consider his physical strength I'm saying because of his physical strength anything can happen regardless of his overall power level. For example if Drop of Life has a fixed amount it could be use a day then the potential King vs Gloxiana fight could simply be a hit & run waiting game without King getting a 50000 power level increase.

 

[Kay3795]

Obviously PL does have huge significance. They were introduced & often talked about in the NNT world because it is an important aspect of power.

Also Gloxinia would fodderstomp Gil in a fight due to PL disparity. Sure his STR sucks but he's magically empowered in such a way that it shields his body -- he wouldn't have been able to get up from Escanor's blast or Mel's punch otherwise. This huge magical energy also enhances his speed & perception in such a way that even a lightning fast individual like Gil would appear to be moving like a snail to Gloxinia; basically, Gloxinia would always have enough time to cast an extra protective gear like that Armor he used vs Mel if he's fighting Gil no matter how disadvantageous the scenario is simply because of PL disparity.

 

[TarXan]

Not sure if serious or trolling

Trolling ?

Did King not get fodderized by Old Mam Cain in the first Vaizel tournament ?

That's why I said " depending on the match up " several times, it's like you guys skim through the posts and automatically get salty when you see something you don't like/agree with

Fairies are useless when they're put in physical confrontation, Mel simply elbowed Gloxinia to the ground and his injuries looked as if he had gotten beat to death

That overall 50k literally doesn't mean shit if he's fighting someone hand to hand, without magic and Basquias, he'd lose every single fight

 

[HereNThere]

Despite being zero, a Fairy's physical capabilities obviously fluctuate depending on the story. King got knocked out by Cain, but later on he was capable of taking a crap ton of physical damage in Liones from the Sacred Tree's Roots and get back up like ain't shit happened. Same when he was going against the Albion.

That overall 50k literally doesn't mean shit if he's fighting someone hand to hand, without magic and Basquias, he'd lose every single fight

Why would you take away his main source of strength though? Match ups matter, but not when you take away the aspect that makes them strong in the first place. That's be like me saying Galan would lose in a fight against Vivian, if he didn't have his physical strength and his weapon. He'd lose every time. Of course he'd lose every time because I took away his main way to fight.

Match ups matter when you put someone up against someone or something that can nullify their ability at full power or just overpowers them completely. Gloxinia will destroy Gilthunder, despite Gilthunder having a higher physical ability.

A better example of a bad match up would be Galan and Ban. Despite the fact that Ban wasn't able to finish the job, he abilities allowed him to weaken Galan's primary source of strength and add it to his own. Coupled with his immortality, Ban is Galan's worst match up.

Someone who would actually be a bad match up for Gloxinia would probably be Deathpiece, whose Melody magic would screw with Gloxinia's timing on using his magic. Or Arden, whose abilities make it hard for someone to actually use their magic effectively.

 

[Rescorlian]

Trolling ?

Did King not get fodderized by Old Mam Cain in the first Vaizel tournament ?

That's why I said " depending on the match up " several times, it's like you guys skim through the posts and automatically get salty when you see something you don't like/agree with

Fairies are useless when they're put in physical confrontation, Mel simply elbowed Gloxinia to the ground and his injuries looked as if he had gotten beat to death

That overall 50k literally doesn't mean shit if he's fighting someone hand to hand, without magic and Basquias, he'd lose every single fight

Right, I guess this is why King was able to tank all of Helbram's attacks in the first arc and not being severely injured.

"Depending on the match up" haha, seriously. At least if you wanna bringue the match-up argument do it correctly, put some sense in it like eefrit does.

 

[TarXan]

Despite being zero, a Fairy's physical capabilities obviously fluctuate depending on the story. King got knocked out by Cain, but later on he was capable of taking a crap ton of physical damage in Liones from the Sacred Tree's Roots and get back up like ain't shit happened. Same when he was going against the Albion.



Why would you take away his main source of strength though? Match ups matter, but not when you take away the aspect that makes them strong in the first place. That's be like me saying Galan would lose in a fight against Vivian, if he didn't have his physical strength and his weapon. He'd lose every time. Of course he'd lose every time because I took away his main way to fight.

Match ups matter when you put someone up against someone or something that can nullify their ability at full power or just overpowers them completely. Gloxinia will destroy Gilthunder, despite Gilthunder having a higher physical ability.

A better example of a bad match up would be Galan and Ban. Despite the fact that Ban wasn't able to finish the job, he abilities allowed him to weaken Galan's primary source of strength and add it to his own. Coupled with his immortality, Ban is Galan's worst match up.

Someone who would actually be a bad match up for Gloxinia would probably be Deathpiece, whose Melody magic would screw with Gloxinia's timing on using his magic. Or Arden, whose abilities make it hard for someone to actually use their magic effectively.

I've literally said this several times in the past, hence why I said depending on the match up -___-

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Right, I guess this is why King was able to tank all of Helbram's attacks in the first arc and not being severely injured.

"Depending on the match up" haha, seriously. At least if you wanna bringue the match-up argument do it correctly, put some sense in it like eefrit does.

Stop skimming, then we'll talk

 

[Rescorlian]

I've literally said this several times in the past, hence why I said depending on the match up -___-

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Stop skimming, then we'll talk

But we can't, every posts you make is just you fanboying about Meliodas, what's left to discuss about ?

 

[TarXan]

But we can't, every posts you make is just you fanboying about Meliodas, what's left to discuss about ?

Nice rebuttal

 

[Meliodastnr]

As for now Escanor = Meliodas. Prime Meliodas > Peak Noon Escanor.

 

[Rescorlian]

As for now Escanor = Meliodas. Prime Meliodas > Peak Noon Escanor.

Based on ?

 

[LivewireToriko]

Based on ?

Meliodas is the main character.

Duh?

Isn't that more than enough evidence?

What more do you need?

Feats?

Character statements?

Logical Evidence?

Who needs things like that?

 

[Escanorzoldyck]

Not in all shonens the mc = the strongest

 

[Rescorlian]

Not in all shonens the mc = the strongest

Taizai never did anything to break or exceed the shonen's code. We can be sure at the end of the manga, Meliodas will be the strongest.

 

[kkck]

Come on, escanor is the only character whose power is immeasurable. Even if current mel's power was 200k it would be less than immeasurable. Mel's power could be a solid billion and it would still be less than immeasurable.

 

[Escanorzoldyck]

Taizai never did anything to break or exceed the shonen's code. We can be sure at the end of the manga, Meliodas will be the strongest.

Maybe.....maybe not
We dont know what will happen before the end
We know he wants to be able to control his power he may even sacrifice a part of it to do so and escanor can even die before eos we know nothing
Even mel dont want to be that powerful (he was crying just by thinking about it) it's not like in naruto or op or dbz (the mc wants to be the strongest )

 

[Demonspeed]

Escanor's PL is not really immeasurable, he reaches his peak at noon. Immeasurable was used because he gets stronger until that hour, because Nakaba didn't want to show his Magic/Strength/Spirit stats or for hype.

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Maybe.....maybe not
We dont know what will happen before the end
We know he wants to be able to control his power he may even sacrifice a part of it to do so and escanor can even die before eos we know nothing

There is no way a MC will die in this series. At least not permanently. Escanor especially was missing during the first saga.

 

[Escanorzoldyck]

Escanor's PL is not really immeasurable, he reaches his peak at noon. Immeasurable was used because he gets stronger until that hour, because Nakaba didn't want to show his Magic/Strength/Spirit stats or for hype.

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There is no way a MC will die in this series. At least not permanently. Escanor especially was missing during the first saga.

He might be resurrected without his power

 

[Demonspeed]

As she is right now, Merlin has good chances against Escanor IMO due to her versatility and hax. She can dodge attacks with Teleportation and trap him or use Perfect Cube for defense. It can reflect attacks like both Full Counters and it's powerful enough to resist Fraudrin's explosion. No one used an attack that powerful so far. Plus she has Absolute Cancel and other kinds of unknown spells.

Excluding Meliodas, Merlin and Escanor. Until they show more feats, my ranking is:
1.King.
2.Gowther.
3.Ban.
4.Diane.

He might be resurrected without his power

Well, it's his own power so I can't see how he could lose it. I can see him with a stable form allowing him to fight at any hour however. He will probably go to the Cave of Training in the future, he needs it.