Discussion Ranking

[Anne isn't a TT]

If Traumerei at sprout is 100, where would u rank these major characters at?

Yama, UM, Gussy, Mirchea, Boss, Dumas/Rob, Astro/Ratna, Kirin, tiara.

 

[Demonspeed]

Something like 150 for Urek, 80-90 for Gustang and the others are negative numbers.

 

[arrowofsky]

Something like 150 for Urek, 80-90 for Gustang and the others are negative numbers.

Not even 10 for...

 

[Demonspeed]

Not even 10 for...

Towerborns .

 

[Sky is blue]

Urek - 200
Gustang - 70-80 (Not counting V's weapon or Blossom's flames )
Luslec - 25
Dumas - 5
Boss - No idea
Rest are at 1 or closer to O

 

[maverickframe_19]

Oh boy, here we go again

 

[arrowofsky]

Urek - 200
Gustang - 70-80 (Not counting V's weapon or Blossom's flames )
Luslec - 25
Dumas - 5
Boss - No idea
Rest are at 1 or closer to O

Gustang has V's weap?

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

Not counting V's weapon

Wdym V's weapon? It belongs to Gussy. V never used that item but commissioned one to give it to him. Idk why people r still saying it's V weapon. It's like saying hey Viole is using Enryu's thorn, or Hell Joe or UM's RT or Traumerei's Leviathan.

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

Full light Urek (Full powered axis) - 400-500
Urek with only Shinsu -130-150
Gustang - 70 (Not counting blossom's flame spark which can only be used limited number of time)
Luslec - 60
Dumas - 5
Boss - No idea
Rest are at 1 or closer to O

I am not sure what SIU plans to do with urek. Depending on whether he will allow urek to regain his full light powers or only let him use certain moderate amount of it or take light powers away completely, his power level can change drastically.

 

[arrowofsky]

Wdym V's weapon? It belongs to Gussy. V never used that item but commissioned one to give it to him. Idk why people r still saying it's V weapon. It's like saying hey Viole is using Enryu's thorn, or Hell Joe or UM's RT or Traumerei's Leviathan.

Ah I was totally dumbfounded it never occured to me it was Okbi.
It is like ordering a food in restaurant for your friend, your friend eats it and you call it "my food".

 

[Sky is blue]

Wdym V's weapon? It belongs to Gussy. V never used that item but commissioned one to give it to him. Idk why people r still saying it's V weapon. It's like saying hey Viole is using Enryu's thorn, or Hell Joe or UM's RT or Traumerei's Leviathan.

Yeah it's just I didn't remember the weapon's name so I used "v's weapon"

anyway I think Gustang even with okbi was 70-80 at best in that fight.

Tho if he had rosario Or his other abilities, he will likely be higher

 

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Urek (His full power with light outside the tower) : at least 500

Urek (shinsu + the light he currently possesses inside the tower) : at least 250

Urek (His full power with shinsu only) : 125

Gustang (without blossom’s flames) : 95

Boss/Luslec : 40

Dumas/Rob : 10

Astro/Ratna/Kirin : 8

Tiara(with her pen) : 6

Tiara(without the pen) : 3

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

Urek (His full power with light outside the tower) : at least 500

Urek (shinsu + the light he currently possesses inside the tower) : at least 250

Urek (His full power with shinsu only) : 125

Gustang (without blossom’s flames) : 95

Boss/Luslec : 40

Dumas/Rob : 10

Astro/Ratna/Kirin : 8

Tiara(with her pen) : 6

Tiara(without the pen) : 3

I think luslec should be higher but otherwise I agree

 

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I think luslec should be higher but otherwise I agree

I might change my mind based on how SIU handles Adori vs. Gustang (if that happens). However, until then, here are my reasons why I place the strongest Towerborns at only around 40% of an FH.

1. Gustang indirectly stated that the strongest Towerborn don’t have raw power comparable to a FH’s.
2. FH’s have much better weaponry and artifacts.
3. Shinwonryu(This would be lethal, especially against Luslec).
4. Luslec looked pretty intimidated in front of an exhausted Traumerei and Gustang. So I place both of them above Luslec even when exhausted, but I don’t believe they are so much stronger that they could one-shot him.
5. The same goes for Adori. If an exhausted Gustang could one-shot her, I don’t think Zahard would have sent her.

So the hierarchy looks like this imo:
Traumerei & Gustang (100%) > Traumerei & Gustang (exhausted, around 60-70%) > Adori & Luslec(40%).

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

The same goes for Adori. If an exhausted Gustang could one-shot her, I don’t think Zahard would have sent her

Funnily enough, opposite thing happened