Games Restructuring Game Voting thread

[Farfalla]

My vote is in.

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[Riku]

Voted ^^

 

[kkck]

my vote is in....

 

[destiny4ever]

Good afternoon Mina-san

Here are the results of the fourth round:

Kkck-sama 33 votes
Ustegius-sama 28 votes
Imperialx-sama 12 votes
I'm_Akiyama-sama 12 votes
Farfalla-sama 11 votes

Therefore the winner of this game is Kkck-sama!!

Congratulations Kkck-sama!!

Here are the results of the amount of money each player accumulated during the game:

Farfalla-sama $1450
I'm_Akiyama-sama $1195
Ustegius-sama $1100
Imperialx-sama $1000
Kkck-sama $249

The amount of days you have to keep a forced avatar/ sig will depended on the amount of money you have. If you end up with more money than what you started with then you receive a lesser number of days. If you have less then you have to do more days. In addition, the winner gets "thank you" rep points from all of the losers.

Farfalla-sama, I'm_Akiyama-sama and Ustegius-sama, all three will have to keep their forced avatar/sig for lesser number of days. Farfalla-sama for 4 days, I'm_Akiyama-sama for 5 days, Ustegius-sama for 6 days.

 

[kkck]

Awesome! I was scared for a second there. I'll let everyone know what sig/ava they are supposed to have as a penalty soon enough.

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I am going to quote myself because people for some reason did not notice or at least did not mentioned what I meant with this post.

Spoiler

Vote for me! Vote for me and get a t-shirt!

Or you could also get yourself a tag!

So I won! Everyone gets free t-shirts and tags! Well, not everyone but I'll get to that.

Imperialx and I had a deal. Given the nature of the deal, he does not have to change his sig. Of course, there would be no point in giving him immunity if I don't make everyone else change their sig or avatar so....

Ustegius, farfalla and dark lord (he technically lost right?) have to wear kkck tshirts or kkck tags. They can wear kkck tshirts in their avatars or use the kkck tags as sigs.

For akiyama I had something a little more devious in mind... Not only he did not seem to do much this round but he for some reason wants me to use a yokoya avatar. So, in order to motivate him for the next round I am gonna have him use a yokoya avatar(muahhahahhaha)! I took the liberty of picking a head for you to use but if you prefer another one you can use any yokoya head in the manga. Perhaps that will motivate you properly for the next game lol .

Spoiler

Can't believe I got to make people wear kkck tshirts and tags lol. JUST AS EXPECTED.
Cheers everyone.

 

[destiny4ever]

Love your idea for the new avys/sigs, kkck!!! It is priceless!!!

 

[Farfalla]

Done XD

 

[kkck]

Lol, that's epic!

 

[Riku]

Tseh, I intented to buy out kkck after he had voted, but forgot Epic fail.

 

[kkck]

Nah, it is unlikely I would have accepted an offer like that so don't worry.... I mean, I did manage 13 votes which is basically over half the votes that were going to be given last round lol.

 

[Riku]

Nah, it is unlikely I would have accepted an offer like that so don't worry.... I mean, I did manage 13 votes which is basically over half the votes that were going to be given last round lol.

In addition, a person can buy another player out of the game (making the player lose before the game ends) during any round as long as he/she can pay the same amount of money the player he/she wants to buy out possesses at that moment.

I don't need your agreement for that or do I?

 

[destiny4ever]

I don't need your agreement for that or do I?

No you don’t need the player’s agreement to do that. And with $1001, you could have easily bought out kkck. I wonder why nobody else thought of using that strategy…

Btw guys please don’t forget to give kkck the “thank you”/rep points that are also part of his award. Thank you.

 

[kkck]

Wait, I am not sure I understand that rule, I did not really consider it during the game. How is it that I am bought out of the game?

 

[destiny4ever]

There are various strategies to win this game, you chose the one in which a player is able to win by getting the most votes. Now another way is by getting rid of your competition by buying players out of the game (taking them out of the game).

Let’s say that during the last round you wanted to buy Ustegius out of the game. Since you only had $249 at that moment and Ustegius had $1100, you couldn’t buy him out of the game. But Ustegius, on the other hand, could buy you out since he could pay the amount of money that you had at that moment.

 

[kkck]

So how would I go about buying a player out of the game? Do I just post to the secretariat? Do I need to know how much money the other player has or does whoever is the secretariat at the moment just takes the player out of the game once he is notified? Not sure I like this rule, theoretically the second I buy something the other player could attempt to buy me out. Say I spend 300 hundred on something. The odds of the other player having more money than me are astronomical to say the least. Or say I buy someone out of the game. A player being drop from the game would be something noticeable. In that sense, the rest of us would know that a player lost what would most likely be at least a moderate sum of money to get someone out of the game. It'd be like this:

I buy votes from someone. I pay 100 for each vote and buy 3 of them.
I remain with 700 and the other player with 1300.
I am bought out of the game so the other player is left with 600.
People notice someone was bought out.
Someone who has his 1000 takes a shot at the dark. He pays 600 and is left with 400.
Someone else takes a shot. He pays 400 and is left with 600.
Someone without money could be taken out of the game for free.
And so on...

Given the main point of the game, this rule seems very impractical to say the least (provided I understood the rules). A series of shots at the dark could get rid of players relatively quickly and beat the purpose of the game. In the end, the very idea of spending money would be ludicrous given that the person you made a deal with would know almost for a fact that he has more money than you. Heck, considering the nature of the game you don't even need a shot at the dark, the ones with the least money are easy to find. In this money there are not much things which you can use money for. In that sense, when you look at the scoreboard, who among the players is bound to have the least money and who the most? Lets take a look at the current results:

Kkck-sama 33 votes
Ustegius-sama 28 votes
Imperialx-sama 12 votes
I'm_Akiyama-sama 12 votes
Farfalla-sama 11 votes

Farfalla-sama $1450
I'm_Akiyama-sama $1195
Ustegius-sama $1001
Imperialx-sama $1000
Kkck-sama $249

Is it a coincidence the voting scoreboard is basically an inverted version of the money scoreboard (note that I thought about this before checking the actual scoreboard)? Of course not. It is easy to get at least 5 votes each round, just PM another player and it is a done deal. So basically anyone who got more than 5 votes per round did one of two things. The first is that he waited and got lucky. Someone did not contact anyone regarding votes and to avoid giving anyone in particular an excecive advantage he distributes his votes evenly. Its basically free votes. The second one is to buy votes. There are things here and there which you can trade for votes but the most obvious one is money (I have other ideas which for obvious reasons I won't mention ). In mid game there is kinda no purpose to trade votes for anything other than money since you can't really know what direction the game is going to take so naturally the only reasonable thing to trade is money or votes. If you are in the second round of the game, what is the first thing you think when you see someone with 15 votes? The first is that he got 10 votes by trading them for other votes. Then where the hell did this guy got the other 5 votes? He spent his money. In other words, getting votes makes you a target. And who among them is the one who will most likely be able to buy the one in the lead? Easy, whoever has been selling his votes and has barely acquired any. Afterwards, who is the most likely player to get bought out? The dead last one is the easy target considering the odds of him having bought out a player. And who is benefitted from this? Basically the players in the middle who did nothing. This rule beats the purpose of the game IMO.

 

[Riku]

But money needs a function, and punishment time isn't really what wants to make me collect money. The key is that you collect enough money before starting to buy out people, so you won't be bought out yourself.

And btw, I should have 1100$. Or didn't Aki ever send his part of the deal on first round to you, destiny? If didn't, here's a problem. If secretariat won't post a confirmation PM to deal makers, it's impossible to say if the other part ever even sent the V/M Ticket to the secretariat.

 

[kkck]

I agree in that money needs a function, I even made several posts about that in the other thread, I am just not so sure that particular rule is the way to go. How do you buy people out of the game though? Do you just make a bid to the secretariat?

 

[destiny4ever]

And btw, I should have 1100$. Or didn't Aki ever send his part of the deal on first round to you, destiny?

You are absolutely right, Ustegius. I fixed that mistake. You have $1100; I made a mistake and confused your deal with Aki with another deal Aki made with another player. Gomen!

Now about the rule that allows you to buy players out of the game…

6) There is one more way to win this game that is to buy your right to win the game. The amount of money given to each player, in other words $1000, will be multiplied by the number of players and that will be how much it will cost to buy the right to win the game. If a person doesn’t manage to obtain the required amount of money to buy the right to win the game but he/she manages to obtain the most amount of money among the players, he/she will be exempted of the penalties the downsized players will have to face. In addition, a person can buy another player out of the game (making the player lose before the game ends) during any round as long as he/she can pay the same amount of money the player he/she wants to buy out possesses at that moment.

Maybe we can change that rule and increase the amount of money a player has to pay in order to buy a player out of the game, in that way it won’t be so easy to take players out of the game.

How do you buy people out of the game though? Do you just make a bid to the secretariat?

While I, as the LG secretariat, won’t reveal the amount of money each player has until the game has ended; if a player were to express to the LG secretariat his/her interest in buying x player out of the game, then the LG secretariat will inform the player whether he/she can buy x player out of the game or not (in other words the LG secretariat will let the player know if he/has enough money to make that transaction). If he/she can, then the LG secretariat will tell the player the amount he/she needs to pay and after the payment is done then x player will be taken out of the game.

 

[kkck]

Well, increasing the amount of money it'd take to buy someone out of the game would make it borderline impossible to buy someone... Not to mention in such scenario buying someone out would mean virtually anyone could do the same to you. The rule seems hardly practical...

so what happens if I have the same amount of money as someone? Could I buy out that person and remain with cero money? Doing that would be hardly practical given that it'd be free to buy me out of the game but I am curious as to whether that would be allowed.

 

[destiny4ever]

I’m not against removing the rule about allowing players to buy other players out of the game. I mean, the game went well without said rule being put into action, right? But I guess we do have to think about other ways to add value to the money that is given to each one of the players.