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Sanji can utilize Raid Suit
Crocodile is unrestricted
DO NOT MENTION ZORO!!!!
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Crocodile is unrestricted
DO NOT MENTION ZORO!!!!
Go!
It's not that odd, Luffy's physical strenght, from the start has been insane. With the Gears, he brought Magellan to his knees, someone who is as powerful as the endgame Shiryu (actually even stronger due to his DF as the Vivre Card book implies).As for endurance/ resilience, Sanji's raid suit vastly increases his ability to take in damage and likewise, Crocodile took Diamond Jozu's point blank Brilliant Punkattack without any lasting damage (odd considering Crocodile was defeated by no haki, no gear 2, gatling gun from Luffy) A named attack from Diamond Jozu should far and away be much stronger than anything Luffy could dish out back then. Either way, Crocodile's resilience to pain is impressive.
He stated he needs to beat all the masters on island to get their recipes. He is one of them and thus Sanji beaten Ivankov. It's heavily implied.Give me proof from manga that sanji beats ivankov or take the L.
Nope, ivankov is not the okama master, his skill relies on his DF. Give me proof that ivankov says he is also one of the recipe holders.He stated he needs to beat all the masters on island to get their recipes. He is one of them and thus Sanji beaten Ivankov. It's heavily implied.
Given that Luffy fought against Croc when Haki was at max a concept just imagine a fight between luffy and doffy without their hakimastery.Someone as strong as Doffy would never, ever have lost to Alabasta Luffy.
Crocodiles strength was clearly retconned post AlabastaSomeone as strong as Doffy would never, ever have lost to Alabasta Luffy.
I agree, that's all we have to judge him with though.Crocodiles strength was clearly retconned post Alabasta
Doffy would have beheaded him had he chosen to use haki when he hit him to get his attention, showing that Doffy wasn't actually trying to hurt him, then Doffy defends quite easily against Croc's attack.Crocodiles strength was clearly retconned post Alabasta
I wouldn't say it was retconned. But the perspective of his strength and abilities he's actually more capable than Oda intended him to be at that point in the story. Croc's bounty was frozen at 80k. & Luffy went up to 100k & had many events therefore after which pushed him to 300k. I think Croc was more of a 200k threat..He didn't go uninjured during the paramount war like Boa or Mihawk. So he's not that strong.Crocodiles strength was clearly retconned post Alabasta
That was also when haki feats were choppy at best. Vista and Marco used haki to hit Akainu and it should have hurt his real body, but he was still able to ignore the damage. That ignores everything we know about hakiDoffy would have beheaded him had he chosen to use haki when he hit him to get his attention, showing that Doffy wasn't actually trying to hurt him, then Doffy defends quite easily against Croc's attack.
He successfully made Mihawk shift his attention from Luffy though, which is progress. I prefer to think that Impel Down was responsible for that progress, since Daz Bones also made progress, and Buggy, and Mr 2 and Mr 3 as well. Prison is a tough place to be.