Discussion Shodai Kitetsu FOUND!

[Razh]

I have an idea. What if the kitetsus are really just a single sword with some kind of df power, this power allows the kitetsu to transform from a lesser grade (sandai) to great grade (nidai) up to supreme grade (shodai) when some conditions are met by the wielder. What do you guys think? Sounds stupid, right?

It does.

What, single sword? How come there are more of them then?
Or, if you meant differently how come there are more of the same type of fruit?

And what would that fruit be? Strenght evaluation/evolution fruit?

 

[SilversDKRayleigh]

that would be weird cause the swords were crafted at different times unless its a curse curse fruit which would be even weirder but kinda cool.

 

[Riku]

Should I play the allmighty Haki-card? What if it is actually one sword, but evolves when imbued with haki? Thus the weaklings who have had the sword have all died, but now that it has an owner with fitting haki it has become a formiddable weapon. Okay, bit far fetched :P

It's funny how every mystery in One Piece is now possible to explain with haki There is no guarantee that it is the right explanation, but it is possible

 

[Razh]

Please people, leave the swords alone. I'm gonna be sick just reading about evolving swords.

 

[Akainu]

gotta catch em all, eh?

perhaps there are things like thunder- and firestones too, after all there are seastones... oh wait no, that'd hinder the DF swords from evolving ~ lol

 

[Epikhigh]

Is there any information on what is Shanks' sword? His sword looks bad-ass too... lol.

O and how about Rayleighs' sword?

And any information on Whitebeards pole-arm type weapon? Does that got a name?

I'd never thought about this before lol... but it would be interesting to know all that!

 

[SilversDKRayleigh]

Please people, leave the swords alone. I'm gonna be sick just reading about evolving swords.

I agree anyone that would fuse a DF with one of the named swords would just dishonor the creator of the sword and would not be a swordsmen.(Don't say that spandam was a swordsmen he was just weak)

 

[Imitorar]

It's funny how every mystery in One Piece is now possible to explain with haki There is no guarantee that it is the right explanation, but it is possible

No, it's not possible. People just think that Haki can answer everything because they don't or won't think sensibly. I wrote "Just because you can think of a theory doesn't mean that it makes sense in the context of the story" in the 2008 Yearbook with several theories in mind, and Haki was one of the major ones.

And on the actual topic, I dunno why people think that Zoro needs to "upgrade" to an earlier Kitetsu. He's either had to go through some sort of trial for all of his current swords, or it's his treasure. I don't think he'll be getting any more new swords. And even if he does, I doubt he'll fight one of the Five Elder Stars over it. Assuming that the Five Elder Stars even fight over the course of the series, I doubt that they'll fight Zoro of all people. I just don't think that the earlier Kitetsu are important. And if they are, I doubt it's from a "Zoro will get one" perspective.

And a modly note, this isn't the "General Weapons Discusson" thread. If you want to discuss Whitebeard's glaive, or Shanks' or Rayleigh's sword, either make a Weapons Discussion thread, or do it in the Mega Convo.

 

[mastermind05]

how about the sword that law use?

 

[SilversDKRayleigh]

how about the sword that law use?

I don't think it's a kitetsu but I would be suprised if it wasn't a named sword.

 

[mike211]

have u guy's every think that the elder in "five elder stars" sword is Nidai Kitetsu (Second Generation Demon-Splitter) and not the Shodai Kitetsu (First Generation Demon-Splitter) or a different sword all together, that way zoro still have a chance upgrading his Sandai Kitetsu which is (Third Generation Demon-Splitter) to Shodai Kitetsu (First Generation Demon-Splitter), and who know maybe one day zoro found some dude to reshape his blade and blam his Wadō Ichimonji and Shuusui turn in to Supreme Grade Sword, and it was due those swords haven't been professional sharpen for a long time it turn in to Great Grade Sword.
what do u guys think? possible?

 

[c0nflikt]

Well good thing you understand, but also did you forget that when Zoro was fighting Ryuuma he said that if the fight went any longer his swords would have broken?

Now that could have been a combination between Shuusui being heavy and very powerful causing more damage than Zoro's attack, Ryuuma being physically stronger than Zoro, or that Sandai is a lesser grade than Shuusui.

Regardless, one of those 3 factors was a huge contributor to Zoro's swords nearing the breaking point. I know Zoro later pointed out he needed to get stronger, but Sandai being a lesser grade naturally would not withstand an enduring(long lasting) battle against a higher grade sword.

I think the factor here is that the real Ryuma with his own techniques and body is probably stronger than zorro he wasn't himself evidenced by him using brooks sword technique cause he had his shadow.

 

[OdaForPresident]

Zorro's sword is cursed, what if manages somehow to negate the curse? He will not lose (or break, trade, etc.) the Wado or Shuusui so the only other sword upgrade, as far as I'm concerned is his cursed sword. What if the sword got a downgrade when it was cursed? It can become 'uncursed' and regain its former glory, turning into a different sword.

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

What if the sword got a downgrade when it was cursed? It can become 'uncursed' and regain its former glory, turning into a different sword.

Actually, according to the manga, it seems that the curse was the price for such a powerful sword to exist. The curse is said to affect the user of the sword for the luck he has to own such a sword, but it was not said it reduces the power of the sword : that would destroy the meaning of the curse.

 

[Truefan21]

wow i never saw that before it seems plausible

 

[chronojenix]

tbh if i were zoro instead of abandoning it altogether i would somehow seek out kitetsu the guy who made the sword and ask him to upgrade it better than shodai kitetsu after a display of strength.

 

[TheProtege]

tbh if i were zoro instead of abandoning it altogether i would somehow seek out kitetsu the guy who made the sword and ask him to upgrade it better than shodai kitetsu after a display of strength.

hahaha at the idea of zoro finding anyone. keep in mind that 1) this man doesnt kno how to go home and 2) mihawk found him

 

[kidopitz27]

squardo the one who stabs WB is holding a large katana like weapon is it a rare weapon too?

 

[Bhoot]

uhm Ussop will find curiousty with Zolo's swords and steal em when he is sleeping or something and experiment with them or maybe just make a new sword for him and Brooks .

Goddamit i m obsessed with the idea of SH getting a blacksmith already . >"< they really could use 1 , i mean he could make a new alloy for Franky and/ or reinforce all the SH weapons .

And on topic ,
A swordsman's strength was suppose to derived from his skills and strenghts , not his swords [although having a good sword does help , but i don't like Zolo very much]

 

[TheProtege]

squardo the one who stabs WB is holding a large katana like weapon is it a rare weapon too?

I was wondering the same thing cuz the design sure looked similar to the other top 21 swords or whatever.....its so big tho...and yes thats wat she said