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That's what I'm saying. You guys all say Krauser is weak or something... he slams a player into the air and indents him into a fence. He has a 5 in power. TEZUKA has a 5 in Technique.
 

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We don't say he's weak. Thing is, strength is the only thing he has, and it's not enough to make him a Power Player (Taka would probably destroy him)
 
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Here are my number. I use stamina as 'ability to withstand physical damage', since the stamina 2 can shrug off a triple digit tiebreaker in terms of endurance. All arounders tend to have higher totals but this doesn't mean they're necessarily stronger.

Byodouin

Power - 6.5
Stamina - 6
Tech - 4
Mental - 7
Speed - 4
Total 27.5

Shuuji
Power - 2
Stamina - 2
Tech - 7
Mental - 6
Speed - 7
Total 24

Duke
Power - 7
Stamina - 7
Tech - 2
Mental - 4
Speed - 2
Total 22

Ryoga
Power - 3
Stamina - 4
Tech - 6
Mental - 6
Speed - 5
Total 24

Oni
Power - 6
Stamina - 6.5
Tech - 4
Mental - 4
Speed - 3
Total 23.5

Tokugawa
Power - 4
Stamina - 5.5
Tech - 6
Mental - 3
Speed - 5
Total - 23.5

10-ball Ryoma
Power - 1
Stamina - 4
Tech - 5.5
Mental - 6
Speed - 5
Total 21.5

Kintaro (after training)
Power - 5.5
Stamina - 5.5
Tech - 1
Mental - 3
Speed - 5
Total 20

Sanada (Black Aura)
Power - 5
Stamina - 5
Tech - 3
Mental - 5
Speed - 3
Total 21
Note: this assume he can't use Rai in Black Aura, or his speed would be at least a 5.

Yukimura (with Dream)
Power - 2
Stamina - 4
Tech - 6.5
Mental - 4
Speed - 4
Total 20.5
 
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What on earth is this based on?
Giving Tanegashima a 7 in Speed. You were just having fun man.

Tanegashima and Yukimura a 2 in Power?
Why should they be weaker than Shiraishi? Nothing suggests that.

Tokugawa with a 5 in Speed?
You need to explain each stat. Looking at this I see a lot of areas that need questioning.
 

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What on earth is this based on?
Giving Tanegashima a 7 in Speed. You were just having fun man.

Tanegashima and Yukimura a 2 in Power?
Why should they be weaker than Shiraishi? Nothing suggests that.

Tokugawa with a 5 in Speed?
You need to explain each stat. Looking at this I see a lot of areas that need questioning.
Because predicting stats of characters who have yet to have any meaingful screen time is based on logic?

Irie has a power 1 so why can't Yukimura have a power of 2?
 

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Because predicting stats of characters who have yet to have any meaingful screen time is based on logic?

Irie has a power 1 so why can't Yukimura have a power of 2?
Ryoma power of 1? At least 3 man, and why Yukimura power 2?

Shuuji 7 in tech and speed?

I don't see many things there.
 

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Ryoma a 3 in power? Kirihara has a 2,5 wtf are you talking about. I gave him a 2 though.
 

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Ryoma a 3 in power? Kirihara has a 2,5 wtf are you talking about. I gave him a 2 though.
3 is reasonable. Kirihara hand cannot use Ka repeatedly. Echizen had no problem with that. It means Echizen power got to at least be higher than Kirihara.
 

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3 is reasonable. Kirihara hand cannot use Ka repeatedly. Echizen had no problem with that. It means Echizen power got to at least be higher than Kirihara.
Maybe Ryoma's tech is just higher lol
 

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Because predicting stats of characters who have yet to have any meaingful screen time is based on logic?

Irie has a power 1 so why can't Yukimura have a power of 2?
Where has it ever been stated Yuki is weaker than Shiraishi? Or Tezuka? He looks frail but after we saw him play he clearly isn't.

Its a nonsense list. No logic has been used here really. Giving Tanegashima a 2 randomly? Its almost entirely random.
 

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It's rather obvious the total stats on Irie is massaged to make sure he didn't end up with something higher than 25, as he has a ridiculously low rating on stamina/power (2/1) even though there's no reason to think his numbers ought to be that low.

The numbers are worked out to make sure no middle schooler exceed Irie's 22 at the moment since he's supposed to be one of the top tier high schooler. Since Irie is viewed in high regards by the best players this also means the G10 should not be significantly higher than 22. Byodouin gets extra high stats for being the boss.

It's more important to think about what the total stats is going to be rather than the indivdual ones since Irie shows obviously contradictoins can exist in any particular category. But an Irie tier character should be something like 23 +- 1 in total no matter how these stats are distributed.
 

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I was thinking of create a thread like that but good to see there is already a thread about stats.
I was thinking about Oni's ability. What do you think Oni's stat should be like ?
I'm not so sure about forum rules here. Delete this post if you find it unnecessary.
 

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Because predicting stats of characters who have yet to have any meaingful screen time is based on logic?

Irie has a power 1 so why can't Yukimura have a power of 2?
Do you see how out of proportion the logic was? It is less logical to give somebody we've yet to see play, extraordinarily different than normal stats
Irie having a 1 had zero to do with Yukimura's power stat. Literally zero.

It truly shows we have no idea what goes on in Konomi's head. Our stats were mostly way off.

I mean, Tanishi is faster than Inui. Bet you didn't see that one coming.
 

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Do you see how out of proportion the logic was? It is less logical to give somebody we've yet to see play, extraordinarily different than normal stats
Irie having a 1 had zero to do with Yukimura's power stat. Literally zero.

It truly shows we have no idea what goes on in Konomi's head. Our stats were mostly way off.

I mean, Tanishi is faster than Inui. Bet you didn't see that one coming.
It's precisely because nobody really knows what Konomi is thinking so you can use whatever logic you want in coming up with these numbers. At any rate it's pretty clear what matters is the total numbers. People in a certain range have similar total numbers, so had we been able to know what Duke's numbers, it'd actually be pretty easy to predict Ohmagari and Tanegashima since you'd assume those guys are probably really close to him in total numbers. Of course it's pretty hard to predict that when we had no information on anyone from G1-20. If even a few of those guys had known numbers, it'd be way easier to predict their stats.
 

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I mean, Tanishi is faster than Inui. Bet you didn't see that one coming.
I did. He has Shukuchihou and, to make it better, his Carioca Step. It's all about court coverage, not what we usually call speed... otw Duke wouldn't be as fast as Kenya (at least that's my opinion)
 

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I did. He has Shukuchihou and, to make it better, his Carioca Step. It's all about court coverage, not what we usually call speed... otw Duke wouldn't be as fast as Kenya (at least that's my opinion)
I don't know if this speed include techniques, actually. Wouldn't Sanada/Kite speed be "unmeasurable" or 99 or something? They just warp around the court.
 

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If that was the case no one would score against them... and we know that's not true. Their "teleporting" abilities have limits too I guess.
 

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That's a little stretch, but I think it still should be 7-8.
 

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I don't think Shukuchihou and Carioca Step are included in Tanishi's stats. It's still not that weird for him to be relatively fast though, I think, Ryoma made a comment that Tanishi was pretty agile for his size before after all.
 

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Pretty sure the speed does not account for techs, or there wouldn't even be a point to measure people like Sanada's speed.
 
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