Canon Suzaku vs Erza Scarlet

[Garmadooon]

Let's be honest, I don't understand why we have to argue about BDSK level differences when Kirin Misaki Haku are just invented opponents to give Laxus Erza Wendy feats. You know well that after the last arc they won't have achievements. I can't understand how people downplay Suzaku on his performance when he's the only Diabolos member to fight the Dragon Gods.People need to stop saying "oh but if Natsu/Suzaku can do this then Gildarts/Kirin/Misaki/Laxus/Erza/Wendy can do this." Who cares about "Gildarts levels" when Gildarts himself has no feats since Alvarez. I know Erza can last longer than Elentir arc but she will lose at high difference because her armors are fodder and her enchanted swords are definitely not going to kill Suzaku.

 

[Jko]

Misaki and Kirin were the most hyped up BDSK via the Gild benchmark. Erza dominated Misaki as soon as she figured out Misaki's power. Suzaku took down a weakened Erza. This is like saying Neinheart > Erza bcs his historia beat a weakened Erza lmao. Be for real, Erza lost to Kyria and then dominated her and stalemated Laxus while holding back (we saw her pull an attack stronger than Blumen Blatt which equaled Laxus strongest attack). Lost to Kagura then dominated her and Minerva back to back. You guys are on copium overdose if you think a healthy Erza is getting beaten by Suzaku. Hell she is about to fight one of the Signario sister who are above the BDSK in hype. Suzaku's Selene feats were a fluke and that was explicity shown when he couldnt take down Base Natsu and got beaten to a pulp by Human Ignia and a nerfed Human Dorga. Suzaku is not on another level to the BDSK, he is just BDSK tier. Erza is above BDSK tier as soon as she overpowered Gild tier level magic power with an attack that did even exhaust all of her MP. She slams. Echanted Meteor Blade > Suzaku's abyss that couldnt even KO Base Natsu who blocked it with his bare fist lol.

 

[MyaHeart35]

Misaki and Kirin were the most hyped up BDSK via the Gild benchmark. Erza dominated Misaki as soon as she figured out Misaki's power. Suzaku took down a weakened Erza. This is like saying Neinheart > Erza bcs his historia beat a weakened Erza lmao. Be for real, Erza lost to Kyria and then dominated her and stalemated Laxus while holding back (we saw her pull an attack stronger than Blumen Blatt which equaled Laxus strongest attack). Lost to Kagura then dominated her and Minerva back to back. You guys are on copium overdose if you think a healthy Erza is getting beaten by Suzaku. Hell she is about to fight one of the Signario sister who are above the BDSK in hype. Suzaku's Selene feats were a fluke and that was explicity shown when he couldnt take down Base Natsu and got beaten to a pulp by Human Ignia and a nerfed Human Dorga. Suzaku is not on another level to the BDSK, he is just BDSK tier. Erza is above BDSK tier as soon as she overpowered Gild tier level magic power with an attack that did even exhaust all of her MP. She slams. Echanted Meteor Blade > Suzaku's abyss that couldnt even KO Base Natsu who blocked it with his bare fist lol.

Agreed

 

[Furkan]

Erza covered her swords with Natsu's flames and Gray's ice and directly attacked Laxus' chest.Everyone knows that she didn't hold back. Despite this, Laxus defeated both Erza and Kiria back to back. If Erza was holding back, why did she fainted before Laxus and wake up later than Laxus and couldn't move even after she woke up?

JKO you are clown sir.My man literally denying what happened in manga and believing his own headcanon.

 

[Axiomus]

Gildart's lvl MP means nothing. Suzaku beat Selene when she was flexing Acno level MP. Her MP enlarged the moon, flooded the waters of Ermina, and made the MP Elentear to go beserk and tear the planet apart. Mercphobia recognized Selene's MP as being greater than his and Aldoron's. Ignia's also flexed Acno tier MP when he first showed up to the labyrinth. Kirin and Misaki's Gildarts level MP could was only noticed by ppl standing immediately in front of them. Everyone in the labyrinth felt Ignia's presence. Ignia then blasted Natsu and Suzaku with an attack that destroyed a huge section of the labyrinth.

You dont see people making the excuse that Suzaku was exhausted by the time he fought Dogramag. That was after facing Natsu and getting blasted by Ignia. So would Erza being exhausted after Youko be a good excuse? Getting exhausted fighting a Yokai isnt a good showing.

You cant claim that Suzaku and Misaki are equals in one breath, but then claim Misaki is capable of dealing 3000x the damage of Suzaku in the very next breath. You cant just ignore the effects of everyone's magic. This is like me saying Suzaku could brawl with Kirin in h2h without his sword. This is like saying Haku could kick around Laxus like Kirin did, and Wendy is flat out superior to Laxus cuz she didnt need a powerup. Misaki could have beaten Erza btw. All she had to do was leave blue dimension instead of trying to tie Erza up with chains. So Suzaku just needs to replicate the damage Misaki did. Which he has already done.

 

[sharkai]

Idc really care for who wins this debate but saying kirin is weaker than Misaki is pure cope. Why didn't Misaki say she's the strongest bdsk? Kirin doesn't even mention his spar with misaki against laxus. Lol at people thinking Misaki>kirin

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erm kirin doesnt even believe laxus can beat him now. his character is of arrogance. it is possible kirin and misaki stalemated and kirin started boosting about beating her and misaki ignoring him. kirin mention misaki spar is irrelevant, only you people think it means something.
Misaki statement basically meant erza was kirin level when misaki unleased her strongest attack. we know not what happened afterwards to kirin. only misaki shock when erza overcame it. it is possible kirin tricked his way to victory, or ended up in a hospital.

Damn what the hell is this? Some people really think Erza is way stronger than laxus. Sick laxus was about to no diff ajeel, Erza needed POF against ajeel.

what do you mean about to. you mean like when erza was about to one shot aconologia. neither happened

like it or not. manga explicitly mentioned laxus has gained alot of power only to end up getting drawed by erza. either erza was always above him or they were about equal. you cant say its erza who caught up because manga states it was laxus who gained alot of power

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Erza covered her swords with Natsu's flames and Gray's ice and directly attacked Laxus' chest.Everyone knows that she didn't hold back. Despite this, Laxus defeated both Erza and Kiria back to back. If Erza was holding back, why did she fainted before Laxus and wake up later than Laxus and couldn't move even after she woke up?

so we should just ignore what the manga states and shows. maybe i should open a new thread "aconlogia vs levy". god knows who will win

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Gildart's lvl MP means nothing. Suzaku beat Selene when she was flexing Acno level MP. Her MP enlarged the moon, flooded the waters of Ermina, and made the MP Elentear to go beserk and tear the planet apart. Mercphobia recognized Selene's MP as being greater than his and Aldoron's. Ignia's also flexed Acno tier MP when he first showed up to the labyrinth. Kirin and Misaki's Gildarts level MP could was only noticed by ppl standing immediately in front of them. Everyone in the labyrinth felt Ignia's presence. Ignia then blasted Natsu and Suzaku with an attack that destroyed a huge section of the labyrinth.

You dont see people making the excuse that Suzaku was exhausted by the time he fought Dogramag. That was after facing Natsu and getting blasted by Ignia. So would Erza being exhausted after Youko be a good excuse? Getting exhausted fighting a Yokai isnt a good showing.

You cant claim that Suzaku and Misaki are equals in one breath, but then claim Misaki is capable of dealing 3000x the damage of Suzaku in the very next breath. You cant just ignore the effects of everyone's magic. This is like me saying Suzaku could brawl with Kirin in h2h without his sword. This is like saying Haku could kick around Laxus like Kirin did, and Wendy is flat out superior to Laxus cuz she didnt need a powerup. Misaki could have beaten Erza btw. All she had to do was leave blue dimension instead of trying to tie Erza up with chains. So Suzaku just needs to replicate the damage Misaki did. Which he has already done.

no we are saying kirin and misaki are about equal. and suzaku and haku most likely below.
suzaku feat are nothing more than hype for these knights. you were told about this before, that he or his betters will get shafted in normal ways.
now you just want to keep holding to your wrong beliefs that mishma gives a damn about feats. "Kirin held back, Misaki has exceptionally low attack power" lol

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Suzaku not only has the better feats than Misaki, but better hype too. Mercphobia commented that Selene's MP was greater than his and Aldoron when she flexed her MP by enlarging the moon. Selene's minions commented that the enlarge moon meant someone is making Selene serious. This is an MP flex far and above Gildarts level, or even August/Irene levels, and Suzaku still won. Selene said that her human form, despite Acno level MP flex, was no match for Suzaku. Only Kirin has hype of being stronger than Suzaku, and this is because there are statements saying he's stronger. Misaki only has the hype of having been serious against Kirin when they sparred. That's nowhere near as good as having Selene admit she's no match in her human form against Suzaku.

Suzaku also has better feat than entire ishigar continent, just saying. after all human aconologia is no match for suzaku (because Selene is around aconologia level)

 

[Jko]

Erza covered her swords with Natsu's flames and Gray's ice and directly attacked Laxus' chest.Everyone knows that she didn't hold back. Despite this, Laxus defeated both Erza and Kiria back to back. If Erza was holding back, why did she fainted before Laxus and wake up later than Laxus and couldn't move even after she woke up?

JKO you are clown sir.My man literally denying what happened in manga and believing his own headcanon.

And those swords were weaker than Blumen Blatt as it equaled Laxus strongest attack Raiko. No one at BDSK tier is scared of Gray's ice and no one cares about Fire Dragon level flames because they're are irrelevant without Natsu's flame of emotion backing them.

Erza exhausted her MP when holding back in a similar fashion to Natsu against Gajeel. Laxus also didnt beat Erza is was labelled as a double KO by the author ergo a stalemate. Erza didn't get stronger from the Aldo arc to the Dorga arc therefore she was holding back as seen when she produced a stronger attack than Blumen Blatt. Misaki shrugged off Blumen Blatt like it was a fodder attack yet got decimated Meteor Blade. That means Meteor Blade >>> Blumen Blatt = Raiko by feats.

Laxus only woke up bcs of the WW's hypnosis being undone just like everyone else who was knocked out did.

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Suzaku didnt beat Selene nor did he overpower her magic power. Everything in the Selene fight was a fluke and that was shown in every fight of Suzaku's after said fight and the Selene fight itself. Selene wanted George and used Suzaku to get to him. Then buttered them up the same way she did Faris.

Suzaku <<<< Human Dorga while nerfed <<<< Prime Human Dorga <<<< Human Selene. Selene had to be nerfed by Ignia who shat on Suzaku with a mere flex and he couldn't even overpower her human form in his own. So again, I do not see why anyone uses those feats like he doesn't have plethora of anti feats that say his PL is not God tier level. Hell, that shit wasn't even close to top tier S12 level. Overpowering Gild tier magic power >>>>>>> Getting your strongest attack blocked by a bare fisted Natsu who never went out of Base the entire fight. Natsu coating himself with FDK flames =/= using a mode outside of base. Base Natsu aint above Erza in the status quo. Suzaku is just BDSK tier and Erza is above that tier of power by feats.

 

[MyaHeart35]

Erza covered her swords with Natsu's flames and Gray's ice and directly attacked Laxus' chest.Everyone knows that she didn't hold back. Despite this, Laxus defeated both Erza and Kiria back to back. If Erza was holding back, why did she fainted before Laxus and wake up later than Laxus and couldn't move even after she woke up?

JKO you are clown sir.My man literally denying what happened in manga and believing his own headcanon.

She literally held back. It’s cannonically stated by laxus himself after she used the fire ice blades. It’s clear she held back when her basic heaven wheel armor tied with laxus’s strongest. And she also had her heavenly body enchant which basically oneshotted someone stronger than red lightning laxus. Laxus and Erza had a double ko drawn cannoncially. Erza used up all magic power wasting her power on those enchantments that’s why she fell first. Both laxus and Erza fell from exhaustion. She just fell first. The only reason laxus woke up first was because of the white wizard. She couldn’t move because she more damaged in the fight because she didn’t get serious till the last part of the fight.
Also Erza and Laxus both admitted they lost the fight. Erza was also confident she could be laxus even after see his strength. Erza was definitely way stronger than red lightning laxus.
Technically it’s also stated laxus is the one to improve a lot match Erza.

 

[FireIce]

Misaki and Kirin were the most hyped up BDSK via the Gild benchmark. Erza dominated Misaki as soon as she figured out Misaki's power. Suzaku took down a weakened Erza. This is like saying Neinheart > Erza bcs his historia beat a weakened Erza lmao. Be for real, Erza lost to Kyria and then dominated her and stalemated Laxus while holding back (we saw her pull an attack stronger than Blumen Blatt which equaled Laxus strongest attack). Lost to Kagura then dominated her and Minerva back to back. You guys are on copium overdose if you think a healthy Erza is getting beaten by Suzaku. Hell she is about to fight one of the Signario sister who are above the BDSK in hype. Suzaku's Selene feats were a fluke and that was explicity shown when he couldnt take down Base Natsu and got beaten to a pulp by Human Ignia and a nerfed Human Dorga. Suzaku is not on another level to the BDSK, he is just BDSK tier. Erza is above BDSK tier as soon as she overpowered Gild tier level magic power with an attack that did even exhaust all of her MP. She slams. Echanted Meteor Blade > Suzaku's abyss that couldnt even KO Base Natsu who blocked it with his bare fist lol.

Bruh, Suzaku was stated to be stronger than Selene who can create floods in another world, alter the size of the moon and use magic in a world without magic.

Suzaku's Abyss literally beat human Selene. Erza's Meteor isn't coming anywhere close from doing it.

Saying Suzaku's feats are a fluke is ridiculous. Selene literally said she was going to end the fight with Suzaku with her next attack, that attack was overpowered by Suzaku's strongest spell and Selene lost. She didn't recognize Kurunugi's magic and was shocked that she lost to a mere human. She literally admitted that Suzaku was better than her in her human form. Dogramag's feats simply mean he's better than Selene in human form. Ignia >> Selene based on their fight alone.

Natsu literally used the scales of the Fire Dragon King to defend himself against Suzaku's attacks and attacked him with a Destruction Fist, and you keep saying Natsu was in base? That's absolutely laughable, you're clearly biased beyond reason.

Erza is not slamming shit. Suzaku already oneshotted her and left her in a critical condition, she would've most likely have died if not for Wendy. Erza was never stated to have trained since Elentir, nothing suggests she has FDK scales level durability. She got oneshot by Suzaku and she already has better durability than her armors. Unless Erza hits harder than human Selene/Ignia/dragon Dogramag, Suzaku wins easily.

 

[sharkai]

Bruh, Suzaku was stated to be stronger than Selene who can create floods in another world, alter the size of the moon and use magic in a world without magic.

Suzaku's Abyss literally beat human Selene. Erza's Meteor isn't coming anywhere close from doing it.

Saying Suzaku's feats are a fluke is ridiculous. Selene literally said she was going to end the fight with Suzaku with her next attack, that attack was overpowered by Suzaku's strongest spell and Selene lost. She didn't recognize Kurunugi's magic and was shocked that she lost to a mere human. She literally admitted that Suzaku was better than her in her human form. Dogramag's feats simply mean he's better than Selene in human form. Ignia >> Selene based on their fight alone.

Natsu literally used the scales of the Fire Dragon King to defend himself against Suzaku's attacks and attacked him with a Destruction Fist, and you keep saying Natsu was in base? That's absolutely laughable, you're clearly biased beyond reason.

Erza is not slamming shit. Suzaku already oneshotted her and left her in a critical condition, she would've most likely have died if not for Wendy. Erza was never stated to have trained since Elentir, nothing suggests she has FDK scales level durability. She got oneshot by Suzaku and she already has better durability than her armors. Unless Erza hits harder than human Selene/Ignia/dragon Dogramag, Suzaku wins easily.

So basically we can conclude, without any doubt, that in case of
Suzaku vs kirin + Misaki + haku
Suzaku will extreme low diff them

Weird i thought they were around his level

 

[Axiomus]

Kirin is the only person with hype better than Suzaku, and this is because Selene said he is the strongest. If not for that, then Selene saying that she is no match for Suzaku in human form is simply better hype than Kyria saying that she only got serious sparring Kirin. Beating Selene while she flexes Acno level MP is far better hype than a Gildarts level MP flex.

In what way did Suzaku get shafted? Suzaku was the clear MVP of the last 2 arcs. Defeated Selene, and carried Natsu against Dogramag. The most you can say is that the other BDSK failed to live up to Suzaku's hype. But Suzaku himself is still racking up feats. Best feats in Selene's arc, and best feats in Dogramag's arc. Mashima doesnt have to care about feats lol. But we do, because the best way to judge a fighter is to look at how well they fight. Even if we wanna try to guess at how Mashima's mind works, answer me this....Who shares the spotlight with Natsu in the volume 12 cover?

 

[Darklord#10]

is possible kirin tricked his way to victory, or ended up in a

What the hell is this? At no point in fairy tail was Erza ever stronger than laxus. Remove her stupid POF feats against Eileen, she is not stronger than laxus. Laxus has always been number 1 right below gildarts. Laxus has always been improving even his entrance in Alvarez he was about clear ajeel while Erza needed to sniff crack POF to beat a spriggan. I'm not sure why Erza fans think she's above laxus, nothing in the manga has shown this. Misaki isn't stronger than kirin, kirin outright stated he was the strongest black dragon slayer knight, Misaki only sparred with kirin

 

[sharkai]

What the hell is this? At no point in fairy tail was Erza ever stronger than laxus. Remove her stupid POF feats against Eileen, she is not stronger than laxus. Laxus has always been number 1 right below gildarts. Laxus has always been improving even his entrance in Alvarez he was about clear ajeel while Erza needed to sniff crack POF to beat a spriggan. I'm not sure why Erza fans think she's above laxus, nothing in the manga has shown this. Misaki isn't stronger than kirin, kirin outright stated he was the strongest black dragon slayer knight, Misaki only sparred with kirin

actually you are confusing fan head cannons vs what actually happened in the manga.
no where in the manga has it ever been stated that laxus is above erza, never has it been shown either. this little piece was pure fan creation.
the only time we see them compared was in this spin off. where we get statement like laxus improved alot and erza holding back. and then they pretty much double ko ed each other through exhaustion. what exactly should one conclude from this?

and kirin likes to boost alot. As of now, i think misaki is the strongest, since kirin lost his strongest weapon.
unbais opinion was that kirin is the contender for the strongest, not the strongest (Selene). misaki has said only kirin got her serious and we have seen erza vs laxus, we can easily conclude, Misaki is the other contender for the strongest position.

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Kirin is the only person with hype better than Suzaku, and this is because Selene said he is the strongest. If not for that, then Selene saying that she is no match for Suzaku in human form is simply better hype than Kyria saying that she only got serious sparring Kirin. Beating Selene while she flexes Acno level MP is far better hype than a Gildarts level MP flex.

In what way did Suzaku get shafted? Suzaku was the clear MVP of the last 2 arcs. Defeated Selene, and carried Natsu against Dogramag. The most you can say is that the other BDSK failed to live up to Suzaku's hype. But Suzaku himself is still racking up feats. Best feats in Selene's arc, and best feats in Dogramag's arc. Mashima doesnt have to care about feats lol. But we do, because the best way to judge a fighter is to look at how well they fight. Even if we wanna try to guess at how Mashima's mind works, answer me this....Who shares the spotlight with Natsu in the volume 12 cover?

i have a better way. If Suzaku fights future villains, what kind prediction can we make?

 

[Darklord#10]

actually you are confusing fan head cannons vs what actually happened in the manga.
no where in the manga has it ever been stated that laxus is above erza, never has it been shown either. this little piece was pure fan creation.
the only time we see them compared was in this spin off. where we get statement like laxus improved alot and erza holding back. and then they pretty much double ko ed each other through exhaustion. what exactly should one conclude from this?

and kirin likes to boost alot. As of now, i think misaki is the strongest, since kirin lost his strongest weapon.
unbais opinion was that kirin is the contender for the strongest, not the strongest (Selene). misaki has said only kirin got her serious and we have seen erza vs laxus, we can easily conclude, Misaki is the other contender for the strongest position.

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i have a better way. If Suzaku fights future villains, what kind prediction can we make?

Remove Erza's fluke feat against Eileen and acnologia, she has nothing on laxus. Laxus has always been stronger than Erza. Erza fanboys are the ones that can't accept this reality. Laxus doesn't need two fights in an arc to display his superiority. But Erza needs five fights plus mashima's wanking plus crack POF to show how strong he is. Laxus literally took out half of Diabolos. The guy has always been strong and he keeps improving and training, when has Erza ever trained ? You must be really dumb to think Kirin's power comes from the coffin. The guy uses the power of a dragon king, misaki uses power of unnamed dragon that is random

 

[sharkai]

Remove Erza's fluke feat against Eileen and acnologia, she has nothing on laxus. Laxus has always been stronger than Erza. Erza fanboys are the ones that can't accept this reality. Laxus doesn't need two fights in an arc to display his superiority. But Erza needs five fights plus mashima's wanking plus crack POF to show how strong he is. Laxus literally took out half of Diabolos. The guy has always been strong and he keeps improving and training, when has Erza ever trained ? You must be really dumb to think Kirin's power comes from the coffin. The guy uses the power of a dragon king, misaki uses power of unnamed dragon that is random

erm this is what you call head cannon man.
we have already seen erza vs laxus.
and manga states that laxus improved alot and erza held back.
that is the end of it. laxus never had anything on erza, other than his fans.

kirin coffin is only deadly thing about him. that is one of his best attacks

 

[Darklord#10]

erm this is what you call head cannon man.
we have already seen erza vs laxus.
and manga states that laxus improved alot and erza held back.
that is the end of it. laxus never had anything on erza, other than his fans.

kirin coffin is only deadly thing about him. that is one of his best attacks

Lol remove Erza's fluke feat against Eileen. Show me where it was stated that Erza was above laxus. Show me where it was stated. Sick laxus was already spriggan level while Erza needed POF to be spriggan level. Laxus has always been training and improving

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kirin coffin is only deadly thing about him. that is one of his best attacks

Proof this

 

[sharkai]

Lol remove Erza's fluke feat against Eileen. Show me where it was stated that Erza was above laxus. Show me where it was stated. Sick laxus was already spriggan level while Erza needed POF to be spriggan level. Laxus has always been training and improving

erm
laxus vs erza. erza had to hold back, and laxus improved alot.
what more do you need?

Proof this

my head cannon. to me, laxus was getting most problem from that coffin strikes

 

[MyaHeart35]

Lol remove Erza's fluke feat against Eileen. Show me where it was stated that Erza was above laxus. Show me where it was stated. Sick laxus was already spriggan level while Erza needed POF to be spriggan level. Laxus has always been training and improving

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Proof this

You said Ezra need POF against a spriggan but the only spriggan she used POF was against Irene.
Erza was nerfed throughout the ajeel fight and the fight was a 2v2.
Against Neinhart she was also weakened.
Neinhart maybe the weakest spriggan but he has magic on the level of the others. He was literally trembling at Erza’s magic power. A spriggan literally had to be buffed so hard to be immune to other spriggan’s powers just to fight Erza.
Also Laxus used a POF asspull to even beat Wahl.

Gray Gajeel and Laxus all used POF or asspull against a spriggan while Erza was nerfed every time she fought a spriggan.

And like it was stated Laxus was stated to improve a lot while Erza held back.

Her fought with Miskai proved she was on a whole another level. She oneshotted someone stronger than red lightning laxus. That’s why laxus need a huge power up to beat a Gildarts level opponent while Erza was already that strong.

 

[Garmadooon]

Erza was nerfed every time she fought a Spriggan??? WTF?? She sprayed Historias with her eyes she used Nakagami against Ajeel she made Dragon Irene look like fodder (yes she got help from Wendy but she got ONE SHOT A FUCKING DRAGON WITH BROKEN BONES). Gray Gajeel and Laxus' POF asspulls are absolutely no match for Erza only Natsu had more asspulls than her. I will never understand Erza fans who complain that she is nerfed when throughout the series she had plenty of exploits. The only thing Hiro has nerfed is his armors which break all the time. And there I'm 100% sure that she's going to solo the Signario sisters with another enchanted sword + POF.

 

[MyaHeart35]

Erza was nerfed every time she fought a Spriggan??? WTF?? She sprayed Historias with her eyes she used Nakagami against Ajeel she made Dragon Irene look like fodder (yes she got help from Wendy but she got ONE SHOT A FUCKING DRAGON WITH BROKEN BONES). Gray Gajeel and Laxus' POF asspulls are absolutely no match for Erza only Natsu had more asspulls than her. I will never understand Erza fans who complain that she is nerfed when throughout the series she had plenty of exploits. The only thing Hiro has nerfed is his armors which break all the time. And there I'm 100% sure that she's going to solo the Signario sisters with another enchanted sword + POF.

There has been no POF the entire sequel. Just because Erza is gone solo one of the signario sisters or Athena doesn’t automatically means it’s POF.

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erm
laxus vs erza. erza had to hold back, and laxus improved alot.
what more do you need?



my head cannon. to me, laxus was getting most problem from that coffin strikes

Technically it’s kinda hinted in the grand magic games Erza is stronger.

Laxus was considered stronger before the 7 year time skip after that it has always been Erza. For instance in the grand magic games, only the leaders of the 5 people team were the strongest. Jura, Kagura, Minerva,etc. Erza was the leader in the finale, meaning she was the strongest.