Fantasy Suzaku vs Irene Belserion

[Ramen]

Bcs he is Dragon...

...?

GG gets beat. Gajeel and Brandish are fodder to Irene. Simply enlarging Gajeel wouldn't be enough.

Enlarging Gajeel is enough since it elevates his abilities massively. Both physically and magic.

Aldoron didn't get beat by GG and got oneshotted as soone as Aldo got serious. So dunno how beating GG makes her stronger than Aldo.

Because he still boxed him and did some damage.

 

[Jko]

...?



Enlarging Gajeel is enough since it elevates his abilities massively. Both physically and magic.



Because he still boxed him and did some damage.

You need DS magic to beat a Dragon ergo the reason Gajeel was sent.

It never elevated his magic just his base stats.

Against a nonserious DG who waited until he got serious to really strike back hard. Irene wouldn't sit there and let GG or GB attack her lol. Aldo could have ended the fight far before it got to that point.

 

[Ramen]

You need DS magic to beat a Dragon ergo the reason Gajeel was sent.

Yea but I don't see how this is a con.

It never elevated his magic just his base stats.

A giant Gajeel roar is tiers above a regular one.

Against a nonserious DG who waited until he got serious to really strike back hard. Irene wouldn't sit there and let GG or GB attack her lol. Aldo could have ended the fight far before it got to that point.

But he didn't so no he couldn't. Irene would just smashed instantly as her durability isn't good enough to survive.

 

[Jko]

Yea but I don't see how this is a con.



A giant Gajeel roar is tiers above a regular one.



But he didn't so no he couldn't. Irene would just smashed instantly as her durability isn't good enough to survive.

It is not, I am just saying all you need is Base Gajeel stats + DS magic to do the same damage as Giga Gajeel while Aldo size.

He didn't even use a roar and that would mostly be size difference. No one really noted his magic was enhanced.

It is since Deus Sema >>>> Giga Gajeel as Deus Sema >>>> Brandish. Irene took an attack stronger than Deus Sema imbued with DS magic with moderate damage. G.Gajeel is below Irene bcs Brandish fodder to Human Irene. Irene also is faster than G.Gajeel as well, so it is doubtful he can tag her at all.

 

[Ramen]

It is not, I am just saying all you need is Base Gajeel stats + DS magic to do the same damage as Giga Gajeel while Aldo size.

And you need the massive buff that comes with being enlarged.......

He didn't even use a roar and that would mostly be size difference. No one really noted his magic was enhanced.

That's because Mashima didn't let him use magic for whatever reason. However, to say that a giant roar isn't >>>> a regular one is silly.

It is since Deus Sema >>>> Giga Gajeel as Deus Sema >>>> Brandish. Irene took an attack stronger than Deus Sema imbued with DS magic with moderate damage. G.Gajeel is below Irene bcs Brandish fodder to Human Irene. Irene also is faster than G.Gajeel as well, so it is doubtful he can tag her at all.

Lmao Deus Sema was destroyed like a fodder spell. Irene got knocked out of her dragon form and could barely walk after Erza attacked her. GG >> Irene and Brandish so Brandish doesn't matter.

Doesn't matter if she's faster when Gajeel has an advantage against her and can dish out country level attacks effortlessly with massive AoE. Irene get's stepped on regardless.

 

[Demon Hunter]

I think the war between hardcore Spriggan and Dragon Eaters fans will be harder than the Alvarez war we had around here which was more warlike than in the manga

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Ya, this I don't know how Mashima thinks really. They met Zeref and Acno. Nobody cared about their MP. Somehow for brandish, they were scared.

Brandish would just stomp both of them with her foot
She would weight millions upon millions of tons since she would be as big as a small country

No one in Fairy Tail can lift even close to that

 

[Axiomus]

Just like how Madmole and Skullion have overshadowed the regular Spriggans, Suzaku is now overshadowing the top Spriggans. I have no doubt that by the time we get to the strongest of the Black Dragon Slaying Knights and George, we'll see Diabolos outclass Alvarez as a threat.

Anyways, Gajeel didn't do much against Aldoron. He lasted less than 3 minutes before Aldoron blew a hole in his chest. Aldoron was also nerfed because 4 of the god seeds have already been destroyed.I don't agree with giant Gajeel's roar being stronger than regular Gajeel's, because Gajeel's mp isn't affected by Brandish. The size of his roar is dependent on how much iron he can produce, and that's dependent on his MP. I believe that covering his own body with iron was already pushing the limits of what Gajeel's mp could sustain, which is why he never did anything else.

Thing is, Irene wouldn't do much against Aldoron either. None of the attacks she used in her fight against Erza and Wendy would have done much against Aldoron. Irene's remaining power went into Wendy, and they used all of it to beat Nebaru. The blast didn't even penetrate enough concrete to touch Aldoron's skin. Deus sema isn't strictly a dragon slaying spell, but even if was, the meteor itself isn't tougher than dragon scales and the explosion wouldn't produce flames as hot as Igneel's flames. It might annoy Aldo like giant Gajeel's strikes did, but Aldoron would mostly just shrug it off. This is assuming he doesn't just smash it with his big boy thorn.

Hhuman Selene shouldn't be compared to dragon Aldoron in the first place. Neither should Suzaku with dragon Irene, which is required to cast dues sema. Judging Suzaku and Irene based purely on their merits in human form, Suzaku is better. The showings against Selene and Acno aren't that relevant because they can stomp if they want to, and we don't know how exactly Selene's stats stack up with Acno's. But Suzaku had a far easier time stomping Erza and Natsu than Irene had with fighting Erza and Wendy. There's no way Irene was facing a god dragon in the condition she was in after fighting Erza and Wendy. Meanwhile Suzaku ran through Erza and Natsu like they were fodder, and is currently squaring off against Selene.

 

[Demon Hunter]

WoW Irene only has one vote more than Brandish in Suzaku vs Brandish thread.

@grey matter are we nearing towards Brandish > Irene argument

 

[grey matter]

Hhuman Selene shouldn't be compared to dragon Aldoron in the first place. Neither should Suzaku with dragon Irene, which is required to cast dues sema. Judging Suzaku and Irene based purely on their merits in human form, Suzaku is better. The showings against Selene and Acno aren't that relevant because they can stomp if they want to, and we don't know how exactly Selene's stats stack up with Acno's. But Suzaku had a far easier time stomping Erza and Natsu than Irene had with fighting Erza and Wendy. There's no way Irene was facing a god dragon in the condition she was in after fighting Erza and Wendy. Meanwhile Suzaku ran through Erza and Natsu like they were fodder, and is currently squaring off against Selene.

I also think Selene can stomp if she uses her high end spells when serious. But I think drawing blood from Selene counts - that honestly is a better feat than stomping Natsu and Erza.
And I think, surviving "serious" Selene longer than Lucy vs Mimi + Hakune vs Gray has to count for something, right? Obviously she isn't using her high end spells and is having fun, but still.

And yes, the conclusive and undeniable dealbreaker is Suzaku one shotting Natsu and Erza within 20 seconds.
I don't understand how someone can see human Eileen facing much higher difficulty against x792 (aka weaker) Erza and Wendy, and can even suggest she's on the same tier as Suzaku.

Why can't we compare dragon Eileen and Suzaku lol. x792 Erza with DS magic one shotted her. And unlike Erza, Suzaku is simply too fast to get hit by claw swipe, and too tanky to go down to it even if it hits him.
Suzaku one shots dragon Eileen with ease.

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WoW Irene only has one vote more than Brandish in Suzaku vs Brandish thread.

@grey matter are we nearing towards Brandish > Irene argument

It's only a matter of time.

Aldo size Brandish one shots deus Sema

 

[Demon Hunter]

It's only a matter of time.

Aldo size Brandish one shots deus Sema

a finger flick from her pinky finger one shots Deus Sema

 

[Biri Biri]

On this day, 2nd of July of the year 2021, the Suzaku dynasty was formed. Suzaku-sama joins Laxus-sama as the two official scarlet slayers. An era of peace, prosperity and warmth enveloped MH FT section and we all live happily ever after. I love this story

 

[Sevently]

irene in a good fight

 

[Vex_Haid]

irene wins idk why ppl are saying that suzaku is faster when he could barely dodge attacks from a little serious selene while irene effortlessly dodged an attack from a little serious acno who is stronger then selene

 

[Axiomus]

Suzaku stomps.

irene wins idk why ppl are saying that suzaku is faster when he could barely dodge attacks from a little serious selene while irene effortlessly dodged an attack from a little serious acno who is stronger then selene

Because Acnologia making the ground explode isn't all that fast. Irene got tagged a bunch by Erza and Wendy. Suzaku can stomp Erza and Natsu before they could even react, which is objectively better.

And at this point, it doesn't even matter if speed was equalized. Suzaku basically just dealt massive damage to Selene.

 

[Ramen]

irene wins idk why ppl are saying that suzaku is faster when he could barely dodge attacks from a little serious selene while irene effortlessly dodged an attack from a little serious acno who is stronger then selene

You trolls aren't good ones.

Spoiler

 

[Vex_Haid]

Suzaku stomps.



Because Acnologia making the ground explode isn't all that fast. Irene got tagged a bunch by Erza and Wendy. Suzaku can stomp Erza and Natsu before they could even react, which is objectively better.

And at this point, it doesn't even matter if speed was equalized. Suzaku basically just dealt massive damage to Selene.

Lmao how is dodging an underground attack from acno not fast? faster then anything suzaku did who could not even dodge an attack from a little serious selene and it didn't even look like she was going a little serious, irene got tagged cause she was holding back some of them fight and the only reason he blitzed erza was because she was tired from her fight and she did react to him but she was just distracted from her blade being destroyed oh ye and ill argue that they were rusty since it was a year since they beat zeref and acno and we have no proof that they got stronger offscreen because all they really were doing was sitting in the guild so they were obv rusty.


Suzaku dealt heavily damage to selene? u mean those youtube videos? how can you tell that they are real if the chapter has not been released yet since it was supposed to be released on the 14th but if it is real then dont tell me anything else that happened in the vid cause i dont wanna be spoiled but i doubt that's real

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You trolls aren't good ones.

Spoiler

cool and selene scales to tenrou-tartaros acnologia, this is what irene did to alveraz acno (she surprised him and pushed him back) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/863231589064376352/863912644083056640/unknown.png and honestly what makes suzaku one shotting selene above irene who surprised acno (acno>>>selene) and made acno admit that she was strong + irene is faster then suzaku and has more hax to low diff him

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You trolls aren't good ones.

Spoiler

and the fact that i can't find chapter 86 anywhere besides youtube is a lil sussy, what if that's a fake? maybe its not but who knows

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

and the fact that i can't find chapter 86 anywhere besides youtube is a lil sussy, what if that's a fake? maybe its not but who knows

Raws gets released every Tuesday. Chapter is translated to English on Wednesday

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the only reason he blitzed erza was because she was tired from her fight

Where does it say Erza was tired?

 

[Vex_Haid]

Raws gets released every Tuesday. Chapter is translated to English on Wednesday

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Where does it say Erza was tired?

I am just assuming that she was since she was fighting a youko or whatever she was called and had a few scratches on her

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

I am just assuming that she was since she was fighting a youko or whatever she was called and had a few scratches on her

Few scratches == tired? Erza and Wendy fought Irene with scratches. Fight well as say they fought tired Erza and Wendy. Ezra was indeed weakened according to Historia Azuma after her fight with Ajeel. So weakened Erza fought Irene as well.

 

[Vex_Haid]

Few scratches == tired? Erza and Wendy fought Irene with scratches. Fight well as say they fought tired Erza and Wendy. Ezra was indeed weakened according to Historia Azuma after her fight with Ajeel. So weakened Erza fought Irene as well.

She was enchanted by wendy so basically she was not weakened, and none of this matters since irene>suzaku, cool suzaku one shotted selene but that does not make him faster since he could barely dodge attacks from a little serious selene, actually he only dodged once meanwhile irene dodged an attack from a little serious acno without breaking a sweat and tenrou island acno>>selene since ignia said that all dragon gods surpassed acnologia and again he did not see acnologia since 400 years ago so at best we can assume that they all scale to tenrou island acno if not way below and quoting erza "acnologias power is nothing like it was on tenrou island" he got WAY stronger since then easily putting him way above all of the dragon gods, and irene blasting away a much much stronger acno and pushing him back (surprising him) + making him go a little serious and dodging a attack from him without breaking a sweat easily puts her at DG level and ill argue her beating them 1 on 1 due to hax meanwhile a serious suzaku was getting fodderized by a little serious selene and only beat her since she was surprised that he was not using kurnugis power is not even impressive lmao actually how is it impressive to one shot someone with a sword anyways? thats like saying me one shotting a surprised body builder by cutting his body with a knife puts me above a actual body builder who can rival the other in power. irene beats suzaku due to speed,scaling and hax.