Right. He wouldn't speak to August and Serena, but would talk to Wendy. Makes 100% sense lmao. I guess Wendy >>>> August and Serena
This is just ridiculous. Eileen wankers literally have nothing at this point that they have to use her "feats" against Acno. Where I'm pretty sure even they know Acno would've won shot her if he was serious. Seems like a whole lot of cope and slimy/bad faith arguments.
All the while they ignore Jellal replicating it and doing some more! Against even dragon Acno.
I don't see anyone saying Jellal isn't one shot material for Acno, or that he would give Acno low diff or something.
lol
i am implying these are bad examples. to show suzaku is superior.
yes, selene is above eileen, fine.
but
assuming selene and acnologia are similar in stats, i mean 100% similar. and then you add acnologia and selene magic. it hard to imagine that then selene could get anything more than mid diff before acno devours her.
acnologia is literally immune to anything selene throw at him. and acnologia can even charge himself from selene nukes.
if you replace eileen with selene in alverzec, and selene can only fight for as long as eileen did. nothing would be different
of course selene has no cqc, she only has speed, maybe a tier above erza.
if aconlogia tried, he might beat human selene low diff.
Acno would deal serious damage to Selene with the first attack he lands, and Selene would go dragon form. Then Acno would respond with his dragon form in response. Then we get a repeat of Igneel vs Acnologia.
Difference between Selene and Irene is that Irene would be dead when Acno lands his first hit, and Irene's dragon form wouldn't even the odds.
Like who?
Every top tier good guy is August/Eileen tier already.
Eileen was a complete mess after what Erza/Wendy did to her, so it's not even like this would change their relative levels significantly.
Considering current good guys >>> x792 good guys. And more likely than not, they will get a powerup soon, making them even much stronger than their current levels. Unless Suzaku loses to someone like Elfman, this argument is moot
Since powercreep apparently doesn't matter to you, I guess Serena is Bluenote tier then. And Bradman is Torafusa tier
Well, nothing new. Just more Copium from Spriggan wankers
Like who?
Every top tier good guy is August/Eileen tier already.
Eileen was a complete mess after what Erza/Wendy did to her, so it's not even like this would change their relative levels significantly.
Considering current good guys >>> x792 good guys. And more likely than not, they will get a powerup soon, making them even much stronger than their current levels. Unless Suzaku loses to someone like Elfman, this argument is moot
Since powercreep apparently doesn't matter to you, I guess Serena is Bluenote tier then. And Bradman is Torafusa tier
Well, nothing new. Just more Copium from Spriggan wankers
Erza, and she's not Irene tier, let alone August tier.
Powercreep is not as big as you make it believe, even Mashima said that Gildarts is too strong for 100YQ settings, same Gildarts who was destroyed by August
Spriggan wankers..? i litteraly said that Suzaku take this.. for now
Suzaku is never one-shotting Irene, he would have a high-diff.. call me a Spriggan wankers when you are litteraly a Suzaku wankers
You serious? He went dragon form when he was fighting JELLAL, Erza and Wendy were doing nothing in that scene. And by your logic he spoke to Wendy because he doesn't consider her human, then tell me why didn't he do so back in Tenrou? Wendy was even directly confronting him in Tenrou.
When he went dragon form, he when straight for Wendy, if it was because there was a dragon then why didn’t he? not like he bothered to smell them out, the reason he was there is because he was drawn by the evil of Hades, not because of Dragons
Like who?
Every top tier good guy is August/Eileen tier already.
Eileen was a complete mess after what Erza/Wendy did to her, so it's not even like this would change their relative levels significantly.
Considering current good guys >>> x792 good guys. And more likely than not, they will get a powerup soon, making them even much stronger than their current levels. Unless Suzaku loses to someone like Elfman, this argument is moot
Since powercreep apparently doesn't matter to you, I guess Serena is Bluenote tier then. And Bradman is Torafusa tier
Well, nothing new. Just more Copium from Spriggan wankers
lol
i am implying these are bad examples. to show suzaku is superior.
yes, selene is above eileen, fine.
but
assuming selene and acnologia are similar in stats, i mean 100% similar. and then you add acnologia and selene magic. it hard to imagine that then selene could get anything more than mid diff before acno devours her.
acnologia is literally immune to anything selene throw at him. and acnologia can even charge himself from selene nukes.
if you replace eileen with selene in alverzec, and selene can only fight for as long as eileen did. nothing would be different
of course selene has no cqc, she only has speed, maybe a tier above erza.
if aconlogia tried, he might beat human selene low diff.
That's why Selene & Acno having something called physicals
Selene should already know what's up against Acno, so she'll probably go against him in a physical fight. Assuming Selene an equal would last as long as Irene makes zero sense ZERO lmao
Demeanor can be deceiving, this is a guy who hates dragons intensely, why would he not be serious when there are dragon slayers on Tenrou or even Igneel who challenged him? Unless his more wild demeanor meant he was holding back or playing around with Igneel as well. Acno was serious if he acknowledged her.
His demeanor wasn't deceiving there, you gonna have to come up with something better than that. Acnologia was expressly stated to not be serious on Tenrou as Gildarts himself said he was holding back. Acnologia and his demeanor were serious against Igneel, and that was the hardest he honestly fought the entire series outside the end of him vs dragon-slayers. Acnologia wasn't serious and he even said he hoped she could entertain him. Acnologia has already shown the ability to blitz someone of Irene's tier. A serious Acnologia vs Irene ends the same way Serena vs Acnologia ended.
His demeanor wasn't deceiving there, you gonna have to come up with something better than that. Acnologia was expressly stated to not be serious on Tenrou as Gildarts himself said he was holding back. Acnologia and his demeanor were serious against Igneel, and that was the hardest he honestly fought the entire series outside the end of him vs dragon-slayers. Acnologia wasn't serious and he even said he hoped she could entertain him. Acnologia has already shown the ability to blitz someone of Irene's tier. A serious Acnologia vs Irene ends the same way Serena vs Acnologia ended.
Yet wild and angry, just like in Alvarez, https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628805/8 that is not what he showed when he was against GS, if he was serious then he wouldn’t be yelling, yet he was, so by that logic he wasn’t serious. Acno was more serious against Irene than with GS if we are going by demeanor. Besides that, looking at the page again, he was not really wild as well as he was more calm when he stated it too, https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628880/13
Erza, and she's not Irene tier, let alone August tier.
Powercreep is not as big as you make it believe, even Mashima said that Gildarts is too strong for 100YQ settings, same Gildarts who was destroyed by August
Spriggan wankers..? i litteraly said that Suzaku take this.. for now
Suzaku is never one-shotting Irene, he would have a high-diff.. call me a Spriggan wankers when you are litteraly a Suzaku wankers
x792 Erza alone was human Eileen tier.
Erza vs Eileen, after Wendy went down, is proof. What happened after Wendy went down, until Eileen transformed, was textbook back&forth battle.
Powercreep isn't big because? What's your reasoning? The stakes are much higher here.
In x792, every single character in the arc, be it villains or good guys, acknowledged that there is nothing to be done except run from Acno, be it his human or dragon form. Even the thought of facing him was suicide. In x793, there are FIVE Acno tiers. Just that alone makes the stakes much higher. And here, there isn't running from them. The aim instead is to face and defeat them.
The good guys have also shown many new techniques, which are proof of their training:
Lucy - stardress mix
Wendy - high enchant, DS seal
Erza - new swords, basic enchantments
Natsu - DF at will, improved FDKM
Gray - dynamic ice make
Laxus - mastery of RL
You say Suzaku takes this "high diff for now". Yeah, for now, Suzaku >= human Selene, so you're saying a human Acno tier takes Eileen "high diff". Totally not wank
Spriggan wankers are basically just Eileen/Brandish wankers anyway, not really seeing other Spriggans getting wanked here. Apparently Brandish can solo x793 FT guild all together lmao, and Eileen can give human Acno a good fight
I even see the claims that Eileen would last against human Acno as long as human Selene would last against him, which is extreme wank and beyond retarded. Serious Human Acno would just one shot her within a second, like he would August as was shown when Serena was one shotted. While human Selene, at minimum, would give human Acno a mid diff
I'm a "Suzaku wanker"? How? This is my take on Suzaku. Tell me where the wank is:
1. Suzaku one shotted Natsu and Erza within a span of seconds. Gray recognized the massive difference in PL and decided that there is nothing to do there except run. Neither August nor Eileen could even dream of replicating this against a MUCH weaker Natsu and Erza (x792 versions), regardless of preparation.
2. Suzaku dealt significant damage to human Selene.
- Best case scenario for Suzaku: Selene is telling the truth and there won't be any retcons. This puts Suzaku at a level where he convincingly one shots Eileen. Should really be no question here
- Worst case scenario for Suzaku: Selene jobbed and is lying. In which case, he still demonstrated attack power to deal good damage against a human Acno tier as if they were caught off guard. Not a single character in x792 has demonstrated such a high attack power. At the very least it puts him at a level where he can low diff August/Eileen instead of one shot range
These are Manga Facts:
1. Human Eileen couldn't one shot x792 Erza, in fact it was more of a back and forth battle. A 1v1 battle between them would probably be a high diff win for human Eileen.
Suzaku one shotted x793 Erza who's >> x792 Erza
2. Dragon Eileen tiers are one shot materials for human Acno tiers, as shown in the flashbacks.
Suzaku, in his worst case scenario can deal great damage to a human Acno tier with an off guard attack (assuming Selene is lying and took the attack on purpose)
Suzaku in his best case scenario is above human Selene, which puts him directly at human Acno tier (assuming Selene is telling the truth)
3. Dragon Eileen has the Attack Power to one shot x792 Erza tiers, but also would get one shot by an x792 Erza tier DS if they get a clean shot. Meaning, the slash which one shotted x793 Natsu and x793 Erza would one shot dragon Eileen as well.
Considering these, not really hard to come to the obvious conclusion.
