Fantasy Team Spriggan vs Parent Dragons

Where do they stop?

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It is her power that strengthened Gajeel so she scales to Giant Gajeel.
No, she doesn't LMAOO. Gajeel is physically stronger than her, and he uses Dragon Slaying magic. A hypothetical giant Brandish wouldn't scale to giant Gajeel.


Reading this thread was funny, the Spriggans were being wanked soo badly. The dragons maul them
 

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No, she doesn't LMAOO. Gajeel is physically stronger than her, and he uses Dragon Slaying magic. A hypothetical giant Brandish wouldn't scale to giant Gajeel.


Reading this thread was funny, the Spriggans were being wanked soo badly. The dragons maul them
Nothing indicates that Gajeel is physically stronger under normal circumstances, if you are going by appearance that is a massive headcanon, DS just bypasses impractical resistance to magic attacks and makes it painful. Brandish became giant before wat? How are dragons able to win when their best feat is destroying a giant pillars that even a pre timeskip Wendy can destroy?
 

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Nothing indicates that Gajeel is physically stronger under normal circumstances, if you are going by appearance that is a massive headcanon, DS just bypasses impractical resistance to magic attacks and makes it painful. Brandish became giant before wat? How are dragons able to win when their best feat is destroying a giant pillars that even a pre timeskip Wendy can destroy?
Gajeel is a physical fighter who combats strong opponents with his physical abilities; the only person Brandish has ever fought hand-to-hand is Lucy. Brandish is the one who has to prove she's on par with Gajeel, not the other way. DS bypasses heavy resistance and without that Gajeel would have never phased Aldron, so trying to scale Brandish to that makes no sense. The Dragons blitz the Spriggan, and they scale to Animus who was a no named dragon yet was giving Natsu the business.
 

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Gajeel is a physical fighter who combats strong opponents with his physical abilities; the only person Brandish has ever fought hand-to-hand is Lucy. Brandish is the one who has to prove she's on par with Gajeel, not the other way. DS bypasses heavy resistance and without that Gajeel would have never phased Aldron, so trying to scale Brandish to that makes no sense. The Dragons blitz the Spriggan, and they scale to Animus who was a no named dragon yet was giving Natsu the business.
Brandish is also a physical fighter too against physically strong opponents and even survived attacks from empowered Neinhart. Someone Gajeel did not fight even. Even with DS attributes, that alone is nothing without strength which Brandish gave him for the task. Dragons don’t have speed feats to compare, Spriggans would scale to the likes of Natsu who can react to lasers. Animus got Dragon Cry so that is why he was strong.
 

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The fact that she wasn’t going dragon form right at the beginning is one thing, and when she got angry after returning to her body when she got weakened with residual though to Wendy and Erza being amped by Irene’s spell. Wendy literally stated that Irene’s magic is better than hers. Word from main person is more valid than any feat, DS is useless unless it has the power behind it, Heber empowered Erza. In when she used it against Gum guy, she stated when she returned to her body, is residual of Irene’s power came to her. Irene is stated to be strong by Acno who doesn’t go all out against those he considers insects and doesn’t even talk to them. That is because Irene wasn’t going all out till later. an Enchantment’s strength is still tethered to their MP. Gajeel ate Bloodman’s particles with had iron and gained a massive power boost, Bloodman countered Gajeel’s physically before all that. Larcade was countering hard against Sting despite his advantage and had outside help. The parent dragons showed no feat besides destroying a pillar that even pre-timeskip wendy can destroy.
Lol bro, if Eileen was weakened mashima would have said so or told us she was but she wasn't. Lmao acnologia considers zeref strong but zeref says he himself is an ant to acnologia. Acnologia held zeref in high regard compared to fodders like Eileen. Wendy DS enchant literally removed Irene from her dragon form and she was battle exhausted. Gradeeny manhandles the shit out of Eileen
 

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Lol bro, if Eileen was weakened mashima would have said so or told us she was but she wasn't. Lmao acnologia considers zeref strong but zeref says he himself is an ant to acnologia. Acnologia held zeref in high regard compared to fodders like Eileen. Wendy DS enchant literally removed Irene from her dragon form and she was battle exhausted. Gradeeny manhandles the shit out of Eileen
He did say so, with what Wendy said with how she got her residual power when she returned to her body. Zeref is known to contradict himself every now and then. Even a weakened Zeref can damage a DG in dragon form, that shows Zeref saying that he can’t is being modest. That is not how his personality works as he doesn’t go all out on those he considers ants which he doesn’t talk to, if he talks to them, then they are not fodder. Wendy’s DS plus Erza’s Irene empowered state is enough to do that. Grandeeny could only destroy Face structures where Wendy could do that pre-timeskip.
 
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So I think I might have to change answers for this poll. Basically god Serena has a stronger form of magic than weislogia and Metallicana probably grandeeny not sure about grandeeny. Grandeeny is probably the saving grace of the parents dragon.
 

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We now know Serena can eat the attacks of Weisslogia & Skiadrum along with Grandeeney's wind attacks. How does this change the outcome?
 

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We now know Serena can eat the attacks of Weisslogia & Skiadrum along with Grandeeney's wind attacks. How does this change the outcome?
Well he would gain their strengths since Slayers become stronger with what they eat. So no much change
 

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Gajeel is a physical fighter who combats strong opponents with his physical abilities; the only person Brandish has ever fought hand-to-hand is Lucy. Brandish is the one who has to prove she's on par with Gajeel, not the other way. DS bypasses heavy resistance and without that Gajeel would have never phased Aldron, so trying to scale Brandish to that makes no sense. The Dragons blitz the Spriggan, and they scale to Animus who was a no named dragon yet was giving Natsu the business.
Yep.
And the funny thing is that the parent dragon's portrayal is >> Animus'

They were the dragons Igneel chose in his plans to confront Acnologia in the future. He wouldn't choose some scrubs that could be one shot by Acno, like Animus could. It is very likely that they were the strongest dragons of that time of their respective elements/sub-species, like how Igneel was the strongest fire dragon.

Plus. The parent dragons, to this day, has the best speed feat in the verse.

We now know Serena can eat the attacks of Weisslogia & Skiadrum along with Grandeeney's wind attacks. How does this change the outcome?
It doesn't change the outcome. It only give him immunity to their element. Serena gets blitz and one shot physically.

These were dragons that traversed across the entire continent within a minute, each destroying ~ 750 faces (total was ~ 3000).
Skiadrum (IIRC) was so fast that he appeared from outside the frame of view of the flying Pegasus, one shotted a Face, and disappeared from the frame of view of the Pegasus.....all within the span of a second.
 

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Wow, the Spriggan wank on this site is on a whole other level.
 

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Yep.
And the funny thing is that the parent dragon's portrayal is >> Animus'

They were the dragons Igneel chose in his plans to confront Acnologia in the future. He wouldn't choose some scrubs that could be one shot by Acno, like Animus could. It is very likely that they were the strongest dragons of that time of their respective elements/sub-species, like how Igneel was the strongest fire dragon.

Plus. The parent dragons, to this day, has the best speed feat in the verse.



It doesn't change the outcome. It only give him immunity to their element. Serena gets blitz and one shot physically.

These were dragons that traversed across the entire continent within a minute, each destroying ~ 750 faces (total was ~ 3000).
Skiadrum (IIRC) was so fast that he appeared from outside the frame of view of the flying Pegasus, one shotted a Face, and disappeared from the frame of view of the Pegasus.....all within the span of a second.
Natsu walked off Animus’ attack no problem, besides Natsu did not even use his stronger attacks, he only used his dragonized form until after and even then we do not know where that scales to the rest of his power sets. being strong is only relative to what they have shown, and they just crash into some faces. Their speed is less than oight which Natsu during GMG could react to. The frame is not really good at perspective base as the vanishing point would be several kms at best depending on the elevation of the viewer.
 

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It's disengenuous to say what Wendy did was anything like what the dragons did. The dragons destroyed face's magic with their attacks, and actually stop it's effects. Wendy couldn't. Carla had to rig it to self destruct.

Face is a superweapon designed to defeat every mage on an entire continent. If someone had a spell that can create 3000 statues with the ability to wipe out all the magic on the continent, they would instantly be considered the strongest human mage in the series. Put the strongest version of Natsu against Face, and the best he does is break all the ones in Magnolia. Face shuts him down before he arrives in another town. Face is magic capable of stopping every mage in Ishgal combined. The parent dragons can destroy this magic. That's the long and short of it.

Animus almost killed Natsu. The dragonized form scales to dragon force, possibly is dragon force.
 

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That is just the magic that drains magic from others, nothing suggests that it adds durability, the attributes did not change, when it broke, it just stopped working. It just shows that it can stop working after activation by destroying it, magic is not a viable option to destroy them so physical power is necessary. We don’t know if Face was instantly created all at the same time or overtime. Dragons can fly naturally, Natsu can’t. They can destroy the faces which would stop it from working. Natsu walked off Animus attack, it did not form after minutes while engaging against with Animus
 
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The dragons were using magic to destroy face. They had enough MP to still use magic while face wiped everything else on the continent.

Natsu can fly by shooting fire from his feet.

Animus almost killed Natsu lol. This shouldnt be debatable. Even if you think Natsu has insane healing factor, he still almost died there.
 

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They were just flying, their magic power was being drained from them like everyone else, but Natsu’s is magic, while dragons are natural. And yet Natsu got up like it was nothing and continued fighting you be surprise as to how enduring he can be, he can take spikes to the head and is fine. Besides, Sting delivered damage that almost downed Natsu, until he got back up later like it was nothing.
 

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Dragons were literally shown to use magic to destroy face. Skiadrum covered his whole body with shadows. Shadows dont behave like that without magic.

Yeah, Aldoron almost killed Natsu too. Neinhart, at best, knocked out Jellal. Animus tore a hole through Natsu's torso.
 

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Dragons were literally shown to use magic to destroy face. Skiadrum covered his whole body with shadows. Shadows dont behave like that without magic.

Yeah, Aldoron almost killed Natsu too. Neinhart, at best, knocked out Jellal. Animus tore a hole through Natsu's torso.
They are just flying fast into them, Shadow dragon naturally has those shadow tendrils and did nothing with their actual magic. Also the anime clarified that he never covered his body in shadows, just shows that the manga panel is just lighting from a different angle.

yeah, and Natsu got back up, and even then Natsu got back up on his own from Animus.
 

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They are just flying fast into them, Shadow dragon naturally has those shadow tendrils and did nothing with their actual magic. Also the anime clarified that he never covered his body in shadows, just shows that the manga panel is just lighting from a different angle.

yeah, and Natsu got back up, and even then Natsu got back up on his own from Animus.
You can see Skiadrum covered in shadows, Weisslogia in a ball of light, and trails of wind from Gradeeney's wings.

There's nothing natural about Skiadrum's shadows. They are magical shadows. Natural shadows dont coat your body like flames. Dragon's need to use magic to create their elements, just like humans.

Besides, we know dragons had to have use magic because their very existence relies on the dragon soul magic. Without that magic, they dissipate and die. So they must have enough power to maintain that magic until after face was wiped out.

Btw if you're arguing the dragons are this strong when they are without magic, then they're just stronger once they have magic.
 
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You can see Skiadrum covered in shadows, Weisslogia in a ball of light, and trails of wind from Gradeeney's wings.

There's nothing natural anout Skiadrum's shadows. They are magical shadows. Natural shadows dont coat your body like flames. Dragon's need to use magic to create their elements, just like humans.
that can just be his natural shadow tendrils leaving a trail since they are of a misty-like substance, and again, we see him not covered in shadows in the anime, and Weisslogia was not even a ball of light in the anime too, besides he naturally radiates light without using any magic as he is the white dragon. So? Other dragons destroyed the faces with wind pressure too, not just Grandeeney. They are natural as he is the shadow dragon, just as Atlas’ Fire body is just as it is, his body Of fire, natural and magic are relative to each other, like no different. They are born with their elements, not learned iirc.

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