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Re: The 11 Supernovas

I wonder how many of them are in ID, I think it would be funny if all of them are in there.
 

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Re: The 11 Supernovas

I wonder how many of them are in ID, I think it would be funny if all of them are in there.
It doesn't funny for them :mad. One thing for sure, Zoro who spent some time with Perona isn't there, while Luffy infiltrate in.
 

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Re: The 11 Supernovas

Those who were beaten by Kizaru are probably there.
 

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Re: The 11 Supernovas

wow, what an illumination :o

and now totally without irony: I think Capone and Gluttony might have gotten away before.
not too sure about the four beaten supernovae though.
also there isn't much room for 500 pirates if we consider some of them might actually just have large crews like Capone and there was really much fodder on SA.
 

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Re: The 11 Supernovas

not too sure about the four beaten supernovae though.
Really?:blink


also there isn't much room for 500 pirates if we consider some of them might actually just have large crews like Capone and there was really much fodder on SA.
Cuz you built ID?:s
 

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Re: The 11 Supernovas

did I talk about ID when I wrote not much room?
I don't think so.
I wrote that in the amount of people captured (=500) there shouldn't be too much "room", "place" whatever left if there are more huge piratecrews, specifically those I see as cannonfodder.
And no, I'm not sure that the four beaten supernovae got away. despite having their crews near them the moment they were beaten by Kizaru they might have been captured afterwards. well whatever :amuse
 

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Yeah, true.
Why botering to put pirates in ID?
 

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Re: The 11 Supernovas

well that's something we know by fact that they were sent to Impel Down which has more than enough free cells and if not they could just send some inmates through the torturing.

but since you don't want me to answer your posts I wont bother any longer
 

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Re: The 11 Supernovas

Does anybody think about what happens when Capone loses his devil fruit powers?
Maybe all things inside him get big again and he explodes^^
 

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Does anybody think about what happens when Capone loses his devil fruit powers?
Maybe all things inside him get big again and he explodes^^
Maybe he is just creating his crew.
One of them called him father.
Otherwise how would he be able to stock so much inside him?

How'd you know he didn't?
He isn't Oda.
 

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Capone "gang" Bege's powers? how do u think they work?

i read this on onepiece.wiki.com http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Capone says here that "Capone can create his massive amounts of subordinates" now if Capone can really just create soldiers then he becomes my favorite supernova because i love the idea of that devil fruit otherwise he seems useless without his crew....

also i believe that he can shrink objects and place them inside his "castle-like body" of course he probably has to actually touch things first to shrink them and place them inside. i base this off of this page http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/508/04/ and this page http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/508/05/


but its anyones guess how his powers work any capone fans out there wanna share your insight?
 

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Re: Capone "gang" Bege's powers? how do u think they work?

but its anyones guess how his powers work any capone fans out there wanna share your insight?
You can't trust anything but printed encyclopedias.^^ -> We don't trully know how his powers function, but him creating people inside him is a 99% false fact.

- he can store people/things inside him, by shrinking them

That's all we have seen of him.
 

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Re: The 11 Supernovas

Actually he has a small field of effect around him. As seen when the cannonball suddenly becomes normal sized after crossing the border.
 

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Re: The 11 Supernovas

the question how it works is still rather interesting, isn't it?
I mean does he have to touch things so that they get small? that would be literally putting stuff inside him. on the other hand stuff that leaves him like the cannonball doesn't need a touch , so could the cavalry just jump inside? hope to see that someday
 

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Re: The 11 Supernovas

Or he could just capture strong enemies inside of him. Would be quiet funny to see someone trying to escape from within, running through his body.
 

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Re: The 11 Supernovas

I don't think capturing strong enemies inside him would be a good idea. There's a lot of damage they could do. He had people in his damn eye. Imagine what could Zoro do there.

I think his fruit allowed him to modify his body into human fortress. It's not just a shrinking field of effect. His people were inside him. There were doors opening!
So, I think Capone could have as much firepower as a battleship, but he obviously needs his men to operate inside. Firing cannons, guns, arrows or what not, throwing barrels filled with gunpowder, anything you can imagine.

It seems his fruit is not really suited for mano a mano battle. Don't expect him to be able to do much on his own, without his crew inside.
 

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Re: Capone "gang" Bege's powers? how do u think they work?

You can't trust anything but printed encyclopedias.^^ -> We don't trully know how his powers function, but him creating people inside him is a 99% false fact.

- he can store people/things inside him, by shrinking them

That's all we have seen of him.
Out of curiosity, what makes you assume that his power is to shrink things and store them inside of him and not to create them? What happened in the manga can be interpreted either way, and personally, I prefer the latter. It just seems so much cooler and more far-fetched. Plus, considering how much Capone kept mentioning "firepower", I would assume that his power is to increase his firepower, in other words, to create armies inside of him, not to simply store his men, because that's not a power directly correlating to firepower. But if you have any information or argument as to why his power can't be creating an army, I'm eager to hear it.

Actually, I like what Razh said about his body being a fortress but him needing people to man it very much, it would seem to cover both possibilities. I guess the shrinking just comes with the fruit, then.
 

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Re: The 11 Supernovas

that would probably be the funnest crew to be apart of lol his crew probably doesn't suffer many causalities either considering they have Capone stronghold as defense.
 

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Re: The 11 Supernovas

For me, Capone's DF is THE more interesting fruit we have ever seen in the OP Universe. It's not like a DF whose power effects are obvious like the others. With his DF, you cannot know what will come out of him : it's like a wonderful surprise box. I mean every distant attack that is possible in the OP Universe can come out of him : he just need to put in his body the necessary things to create/throw the attacks. And with the fact that the things are reduced in the barrier dimension and that his body is not reduced, he can put so much things.
By consequence, you never know what use he can do of his DF, it's why I like so much this DF.
Moreover, there is also the interior of his body that can be interesting to see.



On one hand, it seems that his DF is not appropriate to a mano a mano fight : the things that come out of his body must overtake the barrier limit : it is impossible to overtake it if the things do not go out of his body. So, because the things are really tiny, you cannot use the normal mano a mano attacks.
For example, if he would like his crew to give kicks to a person in front of him, he would have not been able to do it : we cannot see legs out of the barrier that are kicking a guy and disappear then into the barrier because the legs cannot pass the barrier if the guys do not go out of his body (they are to tiny to pass it if the bodies of the guys stayed in the fortress).

On the other hand, you can imagine that things coming out of his body can ward off direct attacks and injure in a mano a mano fight.
Moreover, his fortress body must make him really resistent to mano a mano attacks, as a super tekkai.
And in the same logic, his body, which is made up of fortress stones, would allow his own mano a mano attacks to be super strong, really better than a Franky's metal hand.
Plus, inside the barrier dimension, the fortress is normally build as a super huge. So, in the normal dimension, it is as a lot of little things that are linked : you know that the more the atomes are tight, the more the matter is hard. So, in the normal dimension, his body could be really hard because the atomes are tight (indeed, it is a narrower dimension) and then because the matter is stone, which is already composed of tight atomes.

Plus, we do not know what happened with attacks on him. If the attacks are reduced, the effects will be nullified in the barrier dimension. And, so, his body should not be injured. For example, a super logia fire/electricity attack, reduced to a little one, do not do a lot of things against a fortress as huge as his body (remember than inside the barrier, the height of his body is titanic).

So, it will be impossible to injure Capone if it works in that way. Even logias would not be able to injure him and the same things with the normal attacks : they will all be a like microscopic attack against a titanic fortress.

So, his DF can be, in reality, extremely useful in a mano a mano fight too.



So, for me, Capone's DF is one of the best fruit we have ever seen for all these other reasons. And Capone's should/can be super strong : it depends on what Oda decide to do with Capone because if the DF is mastered, Capone is unbeatable.
This DF should have been the one of a Yonkou or an Admiral ...




@ Imotorar : I'm more than disappointed about your post : it is full of nonsense about the creation power.

Do you think that he can create living creatures ? The people who talk inside his body and behave as the ones we've seen in the restaurant are living (they called him father too, they moove, they talk etc ...) : it is obvious that there are humans. But you suppose that they can be created by him. So, it would mean that Capone has the power of God inside his own body/barrier dimension.

But if it is a God power, it would obviously not work out of his barrier limit which is the limit of his DF influence.
With the cavalry charge you can see these people coming out of his body and always living.
So, it would mean that in the normal dimension, out of his DF influence (the barrier limit), the living creature are moving without his power (like autonomous creatures, able to think and act as he needs to : so, it would really be a God Power (indeed, his influence out of the barrier dimension would be a normal influence, like when normal people give orders to others).

So, it would mean that his god power works always out of his barrier limit. Every creation he would put out of his body, would have a normal height and live in the normal dimension. But the gold creation power would only work inside the barrier dimension.

Does it seem realistic to have such a DF ?
 
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Re: The 11 Supernovas

I don't think capturing strong enemies inside him would be a good idea. There's a lot of damage they could do. He had people in his damn eye. Imagine what could Zoro do there.

I think his fruit allowed him to modify his body into human fortress. It's not just a shrinking field of effect. His people were inside him. There were doors opening!
So, I think Capone could have as much firepower as a battleship, but he obviously needs his men to operate inside. Firing cannons, guns, arrows or what not, throwing barrels filled with gunpowder, anything you can imagine.

It seems his fruit is not really suited for mano a mano battle. Don't expect him to be able to do much on his own, without his crew inside.
yea from the nature of his ability

kidd would own him bad
he has so much metal inside him its not even funny

Zoro luffy, law kidd and maybe a few other more supernova would easily defeat capone from what we've seen of him and them
 
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