Year Round The Football/Soccer Thread v2

[xi0]

Tim Howard

I think you're underrating our top players a bit. The game is still a team sport. That being said, I'm hoping we're able to qualify for 2014 before even discussing whether we can outdo our performance in the last one.

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Yeah, South America has Brazil, Argentina and Colombia, those 3 could give a fight to Germany any day.

.....uhhh, aren't you forgetting Uruguay?

 

[Hardy]

.....uhhh, aren't you forgetting Uruguay?

Nope. Uruguay's perfomance in SouthAfrica was way too overrated (Suarez had to ¨cheat¨ to give them a chance to beat GHANA), same in the American Cup (even though our football sucked, we played a better match against them and they wre lucky enough to score in a 40 mts freekick). In our eliminatories, they have 13 points in 10 matches.

In other words, no, I would never bet for them.

 

[xi0]

Nope. Uruguay's perfomance in SouthAfrica was way too overrated (Suarez had to ¨cheat¨ to give them a chance to beat GHANA), same in the American Cup (even though our football sucked, we played a better match against them and they wre lucky enough to score in a 40 mts freekick). In our eliminatories, they have 13 points in 10 matches.

In other words, no, I would never bet for them.

Say what you will, they still accomplished more than any other South American side. Fact.

I won't predict them repeating that success, but they're still in the conversation for me.

 

[Hardy]

Say what you will, they still accomplished more than any other South American side. Fact.

Of course they did. Our coach SUCKED (COME ON, MARADONA, WTF). They struggled to beat Ghana (Penalties) in the best 8, and what match did we have... FREAKING GERMANY

At the best 16, they barely won against SOUTH KOREA (when we beat them like 4-1 or 4-0, I don't remember).
Their biggest feat was losing 2-3 against Germany and the Netherlands (cause Forlán was the only player in the entire tournament that realised that the ball became a canonball with the proper strength, that gave him the best player of the WC award).

Uruguay has nothing, Colombia would own them easily (and they already did, 4-0 last year).

 

[xi0]

Of course they did. Our coach SUCKED (COME ON, MARADONA, WTF). They struggled to beat Ghana (Penalties) in the best 8, and what match did we have... FREAKING GERMANY

At the best 16, they barely won against SOUTH KOREA (when we beat them like 4-1 or 4-0, I don't remember).
Their biggest feat was losing 2-3 against Germany and the Netherlands (cause Forlán was the only player in the entire tournament that realised that the ball became a canonball with the proper strength, that gave him the best player of the WC award)

I thought you were better than this

You play who you're slated to play...you can't hold that against a team. Ghana shouldn't have even been in that match...shit happens.

 

[FrostyMouse]

Neymar ain't overrated, otherwise... where's he playing right now, in Real Madrid? No, at Santos, he's got European lvl but no one would deny that he is far away from Messi and Cristiano. Neymar played a good match against Italy, and it's with no doubt their star.

The way people talk about him, it's as if he's a superstar already and that's just not the case. He can't currently beat good defenders 1v1.

You're seeing Oscar as a Chelsea fan (of course he doesn't fit as a strong midfielder), gotta remember that Brazil plays a completely different game.

Oscar is the poster boy for small midfielders. He's not even short, he's just a featherweight. Oscar can make good plays at times, but he lacks that real cutting edge, which often has to do with being so slight.

Oh, I know, and he actually plays more as a CAM or a traditional winger for Brazil, not as a supporting AM, and Oscar isn't a supporting AM.

Hulk is a beast, I can't talk about his lvl right now (cause he plays in freaking Zenit) but I'm pretty sure he still has a lot of talent.

If he'd gone to a better side, Hulk could've worked on improving his game, but going to Zenit was a bad move career-wise. It pays well, but that's it. He's looked a bit off lately.

Brazil's 4 defenders line is one of the best in the world (Alves-Luiz-Thiago-Marcelo) and Júlio César high level is back.

Alves doesn't really defend that well as he usually gets forward and then gets caught and his side end up being short at the back. Luiz? Are you watching the same David Luiz that Chelsea fans have come to know? Thiago Silva and Marcelo are quality players, however. Julio Cesar has had a resurgence this year.

I hope they call Luis Fabiano again (Fred ain't bad but, there's no comparission), he's still in good shape (not like Ronaldinho, I won't argue that one) even though he had problems in the past.

Luis Fabiano just looks over the hilll. Fred's not bad, but he's also pretty old. Ronaldinho is just fat and slow.

Yeah, South America has Brazil, Argentina and Colombia, those 3 could give a fight to Germany any day.

I don't agree. The only way that Argentina and Columbia could ever compete against Germany is by getting early goals and defending out of their minds.

Oh and Damiao is still at Internacional.

Ah, thanks.

 

[Hardy]

I thought you were better than this

You play who you're slated to play...you can't hold that against a team. Ghana shouldn't have even been in that match...shit happens.

Then what's the feat about being the South American team that lasted longer? ¨They played against weak teams , barely beat them, and advanced, hence they are better¨. I don't get it. I liked Paraguay's WC more than Uruguay's actually.

 

[xi0]

Then what's the feat about being the South American team that lasted longer? ¨They played against weak teams , barely beat them, and advanced, hence they are better¨. I don't get it. I liked Paraguay's WC more than Uruguay's actually.

I said they accomplished more. You're acting like they're a fluke. I just think you're overlooking them, especially with mentioning Colombia.

 

[kakashi919]

Uruguay has nothing, Colombia would own them easily (and they already did, 4-0 last year).

Suarez and Cavani are gonna rape

 

[FrostyMouse]

Suarez and Cavani are gonna rape

Cavani's injured, I believe.

 

[kakashi919]

Cavani's injured, I believe.

Suarez is gonna rape

 

[BBB Banana]

Brazil will get better I think. They had no time to train and they weren't that bad.

They had one day to train before game against england and same before italy that's two days of training and two matches. While Italy and England are teams that already have a solid base and are playing qualifiers. Brazil didn't fair bad in the first half against Italy. And they kinda were affected by Italy's first goal.

But when you think the players had no time to play together at all it isn't that bad.

I think the game against Russia will go better.

 

[MiyamotoMusashi]

Somebody interested in the matches tomorrow evening?

 

[Bugzee]

I can't say I'm definitely looking forward to one particular WC qualifying match tomorrow but I guess there are a few that stand out and could potentially be very entertaining to watch. Any country but England is worth watching at the moment.


Turkey x Hungry
Netherlands x Romania
Azerbaijan x Portugal
France x Spain

Those matches are the ones that I have my eyes on. I guess I'll end up watching the Portugal game. ;P

 

[FrostyMouse]

France vs Spain is the only interesting match in my mind. They drew in Spain and now we get to see what happens at the Stade de France.

 

[MiyamotoMusashi]

Yeap, France vs Spain and Turkey vs Hungary are the most interesting to me. The former obviously because of the match up and Spain´s nearly last chance while the other is Turkey´s last chance pretty much.

 

[FrostyMouse]

Yeap, France vs Spain and Turkey vs Hungary are the most interesting to me. The former obviously because of the match up and Spain´s nearly last chance while the other is Turkey´s last chance pretty much.

If Spain draw/lose, there's still the playoff.

 

[MiyamotoMusashi]

If Spain draw/lose, there's still the playoff.

Yeah, of course, but think about the embarrassment for a European and World Champion to go to playoffs. Furthermore, if i remember correctly, the worst second place, meaning the one with the least amount of points, is automatically eliminated. Right now, only Israel and Sweden have 8 points as second-place.

 

[FrostyMouse]

Yeah, of course, but think about the embarrassment for a European and World Champion to go to playoffs. Furthermore, if i remember correctly, the worst second place, meaning the one with the least amount of points, is automatically eliminated. Right now, only Israel and Sweden have 8 points as second-place.

Embarrassment? That doesn't matter. What matters is qualifying for the WC.

Well, in the old days, the WC winner automatically qualified for the next WC, like how the CL winner qualifies for the CL regardless of their league position.

The group was never about the random teams, only about France vs Spain. France got a draw in Spain.

 

[Hardy]

Embarrassment? That doesn't matter. What matters is qualifying for the WC.

Well, in the old days, the WC winner automatically qualified for the next WC, like how the CL winner qualifies for the CL regardless of their league position.

The group was never about the random teams, only about France vs Spain. France got a draw in Spain.

The champion and the host should be automatically qualified.

Europeans make a huge deal about the UEFA Cup... meanwhile we don't give a crap about the America Cup, but when we win it it's the most important trophy ever.