Discussion The Football/Soccer Thread

[Imperium]

Nasri is attacking midfielder. He doesnt seem to be an option to fill in Adebayor's gap. It seems to me like its an alternative to Rosicky, who's having several problems with injuries. His price was very high, but I've heard he was already a huge player, and he may still benefit by Wenger's characteristic of improving youngsters. Arsenal has money, so they must be still be looking for a center midfielder with the characteristics of Flamini and a center forward.

Not rosicky, hleb probably. Thats if hleb goes though(which has to be sooner or later) he wanted to leave since the winter and to be honest i suppose he would look a bit of a fool if he didnt . But the nasri deal is not fully done yet, apparently it was on the players website, but if its not on the arsenal site than its not fully completed. There are rumour that if barcelona buy hleb or ade than yaya toure is coming the other way, which would cover the centre of midfield. Not THAT would be a good piece of buisness.

If adebayor leaves the gap can easily be filled. Van persie is fit, and to partner him we have walcott, bentner and vela. And there is eduardo who amazingly might be training with the team in pre-season.

In what position does Nasri play? I'd say he's a center-forward, considering that Adebayor was already sold. Btw, 16.5 million it's pretty steep considering he's relatively unknown.

That is IF the big togolese is sold, its upto arsenal to sell him. But to be honest if we get some decent money out of it (and yaya) , i wouldnt mind.

i would be surprised too if we gave that much. Wenger doesnt really waste a lot of money and when the deal is done, i expect the price to a bit lower. But if its not, doesnt matter, teams here have too much money for their own good. (Darren bent (striker) was bought by a shite team (spurs) for about £16.5 and he only scored about 6 times in the league >.>; )

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we call the biggest teams the 'grandes' as well, but the only possibility of one of them to drop from the 1st league is trough a corruption scandal like Juve in calcio-caos. Although, trough our justice system that seems very unlikely...

We had some big teams relegated, like leeds untied, about 5/6 years ago they were playing in the CL semi-final and now they are in league one. And there is also nottingham forrest who have two champions league medals but have just got promoted from league one to the championship. United got relegated in the 70's but back then they were crap, and liverpool in the 50's were shite too. (I might as well mention here, that arsenal havent been relegated for about 81 years )

 

[Mendes]

I dont think bedtner is a good option to replace adebayor, if he's sold. van persie and walcot arent pure center forwards, so I think Arsenal would do well to look for a new player for that position. Unless, Vela is really a great player. Has anyone seen him play?

I remember that Leeds with that superb team with P.Robinson, Ferdinand, Viduka, Alan Smith and many others I dont remember

 

[Imperium]

Walcott is a natural striker but is being played in the wings (kinda like how henry use too), mainly to give him game time, i suppose. Which will most likely change next season (hopefully), vela is in the same boat, he was mainly played in the wings with osasuna but wenger says he see's him as a stiker *shrugs*. And though i didnt see vela play, i heard he's been doing good for mexico lately, scored in his last three matches for his country. I'll see if they have any decent clips on youtube (but then again youtube can make titus bramble look like messi >.>;, so its not the best of judges).
As for bendtner other than his somewhat annoying attitude, he is quite decent. He's a monster in the air, quick and has good control and decent finishing, kinda like adebayor 12months ago...Van persie i agree is not a pure centre foward, but if he has a season in which he is fully fit he can chip in with a lot of goals. But him being fully fit for a whole season seems optimistic to the highest degree >.>;

But since a lot of spanish newspapers seem to think adebayor is already barcelonas they've been linking us with a lot of liga players. Guiza seems to be their prefered "replacement", but i dont see it happening.

Edit: mendes, here is a vid showing vela playing against real madrid (some poor soul has taken a lot of time out of his day to show, what seems to be, every touch vela made in that match...).

 

[Mendes]

Vela seems more like a striker that works more for the team than a natural born finisher, but I guess it's Arsenal striker's face for a long time.

As you know, Spain won the euro cup, after 44 years. A fair winner imo. Russia and Turkey were huge surprises. Xavi was the best player of the tournament.

As for the market, Deco signed with Chelsea for 10M€, but Lampard is still unconfirmed for Inter. Porto and Inter have been negotiating for Quaresma for a long time. Inter is apparently giving 30M€ plus a player of theirs (Suazo or Pele). I say goodbye Quaresma... I think it'd be a huge deal for Porto. Not only Quaresma wants to leave, but Suazo would be an amazing add to his position. Pele is also one of the portuguese players I see with best future prospects.

Thuram found heart problems when he was transfered to PSG and will end his career to avoid endangering his life. Del Bosque may replace Aragones in Spain. Jô signed for City. I think this one will make impact. Very good striker.

 

[Imperium]

I heard about the deco deal, and i suppose it opens up lampards move to inter. He played really well for portugal, but i doubt he would can do the same for chelsea, it might just end up another shevchenko. Bosingwa seems to be the more exciting signing.I hope lampard goes to inter, since english players seem to avoid going to other leagues, it would be intresting to see if he does well.

Spoiler: this is just too funny xD

Gordinho?

 

[sk.nite]

I heard about the deco deal, and i suppose it opens up lampards move to inter. He played really well for portugal, but i doubt he would can do the same for chelsea, it might just end up another shevchenko. Bosingwa seems to be the more exciting signing.I hope lampard goes to inter, since english players seem to avoid going to other leagues, it would be intresting to see if he does well.

Spoiler: this is just too funny xD

Gordinho?

The extra weight doesn't keep him from doing magic with the ball. Did you see the friendly match between Gordinho's friends and Messi's?

 

[KnuckleheadedNinja]

The extra weight doesn't keep him from doing magic with the ball. Did you see the friendly match between Gordinho's friends and Messi's?

yeah the exta weight doesn't keep him from doing magic with the ball but it keeps him from been able to play a full game of football.

 

[patedecarne]

Nah, Ronaldinho Gaucho, a.k.a Gordinho is done with soccer; his life is only about parties and girls, seems he doesn't care much about soccer anymore;

Oh, and he also screwed up Brazilian team in some past games...

 

[Mendes]

Well, I dont believe that. He may be enjoying his social life too much for a soccer player, but he still loves to play football, like he always did. That smile on his face in the pitch isnt just for show. Maybe he needs a new challenge in another club to save his career. At least I hope he does

 

[Imperium]

^ He might still go to city, even though it seems crazy. Its sad, but he might end up like ronaldo.

The extra weight doesn't keep him from doing magic with the ball. Did you see the friendly match between Gordinho's friends and Messi's?

I didnt watch the match, but saw some highlights. A friendly promoting anti-racism is different from a competitive match. And if that belly is anything to go by, he has a lot of work in the gym to do. xD

 

[sk.nite]

What I meant before is that to a player like Ronaldinho fitness isn't all that important (of course, that in todays standards, even being a little overweight is unacceptable). For players like him, who rely mostly on their superior technique, even not being 100% fit doesn't prevent them from having good performances. Not that with that beer belly Roni can actually compete in the major leagues (maybe that was implied in my previous post, but I didn't mean that. I blame my laziness for forcing me to write one line posts in most cases).

And about that friendly match, at certain times that kind of non-competitive match is more entertaining to me because it allows players to try stuff that they wouldn't normally do when playing for the points.

 

[goldb]

nah there's no excuse for footballer's these days. Ronnie needs to hit the gym quicktime!! he's become literally a shadow of his former self...
I can't believe he's a two time world footie of the year...seems like such a long time ago....

and talking about brazilians....who remembers when chelsea wanted to buy adriano for £40 million? where is he now?

 

[Pirulito]

Adriano will return to Internazionale. Jose Mourinho wants him in his team.

 

[Mendes]

Yeah Adriano was borrowed to São Paulo in order to regain shape and confidence in his football. I was really surprised with Adriano's sudden lack of form in his last months playing for Inter. The guy was amazing in both technique and power. Mourinho wants to take a look at him in the summer digression and then he'll decide whether he's in shape to return to Inter or if he is borrowed once again or sold.

Its official. Every day there's at least 1 press new connecting Ronaldo with Real Madrid. I guess this'll go on till Real buys him, or till the transfer market is over. Today I saw 2 consecutive online news. The 1st said 'Fergunson assures Ronaldo will stay in Manchester', while the 2nd said 'Calderón assures Ronaldo will move to Madrid soon'. If this deal went trough, Robinho would most likely experience the premier league

 

[Imperium]

^ Hahaha, and i actually thought it all died down. To be honest about ronaldo, i think he will go, since he is in a position of power (i.e. united need him more than he needs united) so he is in control, and if its his dream, i suppose few can stop him, also if queiroz takes over at portugal, that will be another reason to head for the exit.

Btw, today is the big day for barca, the president laporta faces a vote of no confidence. He probably will win it, but if two thirds of the vote go against him, they face new elections for a president, apparently if that happens transfers will seize. And we think we have it bad with idiot shareholders

 

[Mendes]

Yeah, elections in Barça would mean a huge movement in the market. Ronaldo could even end in Barça instead! xD
They were already the team best reinforced imo, so this could mean a new galactic team for Barça

 

[KnuckleheadedNinja]

C. Ronaldo is most likely going to miss the start of the season cause of an ankle surgey. He is set to undergo the surgey next week.

 

[goldb]

Ramon Calderon said he is likely to stay at Man.Utd this season coz even if if Manchester Utd wants to sell him, he doesn't think they could come up with the money to buy...

 

[patedecarne]

Hahaha, Ronaldinho Gaucho is back to the Brazil team, what a bad joke...

This way, Brazil is condemned to fail in the Olimpic Games...

Someone must replace Dunga, immediately, or else...

 

[KnuckleheadedNinja]

^^At least you going to have someone to blame when they lose.lol. Robinho and Anderson are also on the team.