Discussion The Gecko Moria thread

[6thangel]

While taking others shadows to make an army of zombies is extremely powerful I think there is more to it.

My guess is that Moria can control his own shadow and attack people with it as well.

 

[Anti-panda]

Maybe if he attacks your shadow you take the damage like normal. I don't know there has to be more to it than just being able to slice off and reattach shadows. What is really interesting is why and what he is offering Hogback to get him a once respected surgeon to cooperate with him. Because I doubt that hogback is being forced to do such quality work.. he seems quite dedicated to making a invincible zombie army.

 

[OP_overlord]

yeah true he might not be strong but he has one of the strongest crews in the world

i kinda like the way he, looked this arc is the oppisite of skypie so he is the devil just like enerue is god it made sence to me

 

[Paz42]

What is really interesting is why and what he is offering Hogback to get him a once respected surgeon to cooperate with him. Because I doubt that hogback is being forced to do such quality work.. he seems quite dedicated to making a invincible zombie army.

I was thinking about this and i think that the hogback we have been introduced to isnt the true hogback. in the sense that moria has removed the shadow of the true hogback so as to have his amazing surgical abilities to create the zombie bodies and using the name hogback a world renownd name will lure people in i dunno if that makes sense

 

[Anti-panda]

I was thinking about this and i think that the hogback we have been introduced to isnt the true hogback. in the sense that moria has removed the shadow of the true hogback so as to have his amazing surgical abilities to create the zombie bodies and using the name hogback a world renownd name will lure people in i dunno if that makes sense

But if that is the case .. why does he refer to himself as hogback and why do others? I mean ryuma has brooke's shadow but he doesn't refer to himself as brooke. So what would they have to gain? Considering that when the strawhats landed how would they know if anyone on board the ship would even recognize the name hogback.
I find it much more likely that it is the real hogback with someone wicked's shadow attached to him making him want to do bad things. Like the shadow has tainted him to become wicked and stray from the path of the doctor he once was.

 

[Paz42]

ahhh yes well most pirate crews are bound to have a doctor and most doctors would probably know the name hogback and robin chwan also seemd to know his name so what i was trying to say is that maybe he just uses the name to lure people in and hes been doing it so long just uses the name all the time.

But i do like the theory that he has had some one evils shadow attached to him i also the like the idea that living people can also have shadows attached to them can u imagine if luffy ended up fighting moria with all the skills of zoro and sanji aswell that would kick like well i think i would die of happiness right then nuff said

 

[Anti-panda]

ahhh yes well most pirate crews are bound to have a doctor and most doctors would probably know the name hogback and robin chwan also seemd to know his name so what i was trying to say is that maybe he just uses the name to lure people in and hes been doing it so long just uses the name all the time.

But i do like the theory that he has had some one evils shadow attached to him i also the like the idea that living people can also have shadows attached to them can u imagine if luffy ended up fighting moria with all the skills of zoro and sanji aswell that would kick like well i think i would die of happiness right then nuff said

Lol KICKA$$ .. Thank you!!! You just gave me the greatest mental image ... Gomu Gomu no Jet Oni-Giri. Awesome.
I'm wondering if gekko and his big three subordinates... Absolom, hogback, and perona.. Wont be able to be taken down easily ...
warning spoilers ahead.

Spoiler

By being purified

Perona obviously wont be taken out by any normal method, she appears to be a wraith of some kind that can become a ghost and control various spirits. Absolom has weird freaky inviso-powers. And hogback -or- Anti-hogback whatever also appears to be a remarkably skilled surgeon. I don't think any of them are going down easy. Let alone Gekko moria.

 

[Paz42]

that would kick ass!!! just luffy stretching with zoros sword fighting and sanjis kicking ability i doubt it will happen but its just like the most awesome idea

But ye i think its gonna be

Luffy Vs Moria
Perona Vs Robin Chwan
Absolom Vs Franky
Hogback Vs Chopper

Then what i think i would like to see is sanji and zoro either fighting against the shadow versions of themselves or fighting against the shadow versions of the other so zoro against pendog and sanji against the three sword using guy forgot his name

 

[Absolutio]

You forgot mentioning Luffy vs. Oz! That fight will be even better than luffy vs. moria in my opinion.

I hope Oda wont make Moria's kage kage no mi abilities like Shikamaru's shadows abilities. He can be way more creative than that. =D The peter pen's shadow seperation from the buddy although not 100% original, is very creative and cool (in my opinion).

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Edited because of references to the latest OP chapter. Remember it isn't allowed to talk about the latest chapter outside of Discussion and Predictions threads until the week-end passed. Make attention because it is a serious offense.~ Luckas

 

[Anti-panda]

Spoiler

I'm betting on Franky Vs. Oz ... Monster man vs Man Monster. I'll let you decide which is which.

Thats my bet anyways.
I'm still stuck on perona vs robin~chwan
chopper and nami Vs hogback and cindry
Sanji vs Absolom
Luffy vs Gekko
Brooke vs Ryuma
Zoro vs One of the yet unnamed general zombies.
Ussop vs Captian jack.. the zombie with the pistols.

those are my matchups ///// for now anyway.

 

[Paz42]

You forgot mentioning Luffy vs. Oz! That fight will be even better than luffy vs. moria in my opinion.

i hadnt read the new chapter at the time so i wasnt aware of this but i dont think luffy will fight him im not to sure about what where going to see from oz but have to wait and see

Thats my bet anyways.
I'm still stuck on perona vs robin~chwan
chopper and nami Vs hogback and cindry
Sanji vs Absolom
Luffy vs Gekko
Brooke vs Ryuma
Zoro vs One of the yet unnamed general zombies.
Ussop vs Captian jack.. the zombie with the pistols.

those are my matchups ///// for now anyway.

And i agree on all theese fights hadnt thought that hogback might try and use cindry in his fight maybe having nami screaming at cindry that she has to remember her real life and such. And Ussop vs captin jack i hadnt thought of that as there seems to be more behind this charcter and if im not mistaken last time we saw buggy wasnt he looking at a captin jacks map ? maybe hes going to tell ussop the location of his treasure when he beats him and thats when straw hats will meet the buggy pirates again !

Not sure about zoro which is the only thing i have a theory about this i think brooke is going to loose to Ryuma and zoro is going to fight and defeat him there for as ryuma has brookes shadow he will techniquely have already beaten brooke allowing him to be part of the crew even if zoro would have had a problem with it because he is a sword man

 

[Absolutio]

I just remembered that it aint allowed to say updated chapters stuffs in the tree of knowledge, so I just posted a similiar post in the chapter 456 discussion, and at the release of next chapter i'll re-edit this post.

Moderator Notice:
Since Monday you can post in the Tree of Knowledge about the latest chapter.~ Luckas

 

[Impel Down]

I don't see how Moria is Gecko-like. All the other Shichibukai are related to their animal title, but not Moria.

 

[Anti-panda]

Croc wasn't anything like a croc .. he just kept them as pets.
I've also found out something interesting...
In ancient greece a Moria .. was a olive tree ... that was considered sacred and property of the state.
Gekko moria is a pirate that is considered part of the state.

I found this out trying to discern the nature of his character from the nature of his name... Just Fyi.

 

[OP_overlord]

did gekko say that he cant undo the shadow transfer thing cause i have already forgotten
casuse i wanna know if he knows that some peoples spirts are too strong to be controlled like sanji who was fighting against his new master.

 

[Luckas]

disambiguation page about "moria" from Wikipedia:
Moria refers to:

* Moria (Middle-earth), a fictional location in author J. R. R. Tolkien's high fantasy book, The Lord of the Rings
* Moria (computer game), an old roguelike computer game
* Moria (StarCraft), a Terran colony in the Koprulu Sector of the StarCraft universe
* Moria (tree), an olive tree in ancient Greece
* Moria (naiad), a river-nymph in Greek mythology.
* moria, a form of euphoria
* Gecko Moria, one of the Shichibukai in the anime and manga series One Piece
* Moria, a castle in medieval Bulgaria
* Moria, a band from Salinas, California

 

[Koen]

Well, I quietly hope another mugiwara pirate than luffy fighting gekko moria. Maybe Robin? Luffy didn't want to hear her leaving, dieing, etc in the previous arc. Maybe it's time for her to fight moria and beat him. It would be something different? no?

 

[Impel Down]

Croc wasn't anything like a croc .. he just kept them as pets.

Crocodile had the crocodile smile to be like his animal. Moria has yet to show anything gecko-like, except for having enough money to afford selling low-priced car insurance

 

[Absolutio]

Crocodile had the crocodile smile to be like his animal. Moria has yet to show anything gecko-like, except for having enough money to afford selling low-priced car insurance

Lol !

Well, I quietly hope another mugiwara pirate than luffy fighting gekko moria. Maybe Robin? Luffy didn't want to hear her leaving, dieing, etc in the previous arc. Maybe it's time for her to fight moria and beat him. It would be something different? no?

Maybe thats why only she and franky are the "free" mugiwaras that can fight at the moment. because franky is a new member, so we gotta see some action from him, and robin had been saved last arc, so we gotta see some action from her too (her angel wings was enough from her for this whole arc in my opinion ).

 

[Impel Down]

The only other SH who will fight a shichibukai is Zoro.