He's still powered by the Commandments,no?
You have no proof of Mael only exceeding Ludo with Sun.If he's the strongest, then explain to me how Estarossa/Mael needs the commandments to deal with his fellow angels?
This is really just a case of Sariel calling him the strongest AA, because that's his title.
The Demon King (or someone else) called Meliodas the strongest demon, despite his assault mode being inactive, which would make him inferior to Zeldris.
Mael only surpassed Ludoshel with sunshine.
LOL what, did you completely ignore how Elizabeth's ark is superior to the Four Archangels in every way?
I wouldn't say that the Supreme Goddess doesn't care about Elizabeth considering Ludoshel's and Sariel's comment.
They committed ''super'' suicide because they lost Mael + sunshine.
Mael without sunshine, is the weakest angel, pretty obvious by how Ludoshel/ the battles have played out.
It really doesn't matter if Mael is the weakest angel by 20-30K PL or so. Sunshine made Escanor fodderize the future demon king, give that to even the weakest angel, and they fodderize anyone besides the Gods.
Pretty sure giving sunshine to Ludoshel is just overkill.
Plus. Mael got his ''title of strongest AA'' because of sunshine - take it away, and he should be the weakest.
Then someone explain to me why the Supreme Goddess gave Mael sunshine when Ludoshel was the strongest angel before hand?
Correction:
All of AA without graces - Ludoshel's the strongest.
AA with graces - Mael's the strongest.
Otherwise you want to argue how supposedly a weaker base PL Ludoshel can still keep up (and even be stronger) than Mael outside near/full-noon?
You're trying to claim something is fact when it isn't- who needs to see sense here?
The magic isn't a maybe. It's a definite, it's literally in the manga, that her ark is superior in every way to the angels.. why are you guys so desperate to argue against fact? The angels have graces and superior physical strength, and literally never use there ark over there graces lol - proves my point.
This wasn't even subtly implied.
This man knows his stuff. Elizabeth discussion is the addiction of this fandom
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You can't stop us
No picture showed up.Kiddo Mael could use PoL
In this case, there is no symmetry with the backstory of Estarossa
Really? I must be doing something wrong. Anyway, let me try again
did we ever see their powers in the main series?
Nah but according to wiki (which may be wrong) Jenna has seal while Zaneli has thunder ray
I get what you mean. After the lightning stirk there is a panel with Jenna, but it doesn't necessarily mean that she was the one who used it. Assuming there was no mistake in the fan book, then Zaneli must have been the one who cast it. There was no name back then but Jenna is the one who unsealed Meliodas's power. We can't say for sure that it was Seal and not some Goddess spell though...
I considered that it might've been Zaneli, but everything points to it being Jena since her anger towards Jelamet was hightlighted, and she was the one in a fighting stance (with magic clinging to her staff no less), not Zaneli. But yeah, the fact that Jena was the one who specifically noted how hard it was to seal Meliodas' magic, it seems like a weird contradiction of the fanbook.
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(ignoring sunshine ofc)
Oh oh oh they should take forms based in the JudeoChristian mystic textsAn Indura version for the Goddesses should be a form where the Goddesses transcend each sphere of angels in order to progress to higher power.
The rank of Four Archangels is actually on the third and lowest sphere, only second to the lowest rank out of any angels. Thus, an Indura-version for the Goddesses would involve achieving higher spheres, to the highest rank of Seraphim which has the best contact with God (THE SD).
But this is temporary, and instead of dying or sacrificing themselves, they simply return to the lowest form of all angels, or become human.
So in simple terms, a Goddess would temporarily achieve a higher form in contact with God in order to gain more power, but would then become a fallen angel, human, or be demoted back to the lowest order.
If Elizabeth or the AA's used this it would mean they would lose their wings and become fodder level lol
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Supreme Deity > Ludoshel/Elizabeth > Mael > Sariel/Tarmiel > Sariel/Tarmiel > Divine Lance Corporals > Divine Soldiers.
Guess Elizaberh was the second strongest Goddess all along
I think it's more like the archangel sacrfices his lower pair of wings to form a contract with the light, then two pairs of wings sprout instead (temporary ).Oh oh oh they should take forms based in the JudeoChristian mystic texts
Flaming serpents with wings of blinding light (Seraphim)
Winged chimeras with different animal heads (Cherubim)
Flaming wheels of light and flame (Ophanim)
I think that means that elizabeth is indeed going to be blessed by 2 graces ( inagine her with 6 wings , wielding a khakhara holy staff, riding a huge ocean tsunami or a colossal tornado!)Not sure if this is a foreshadowed or implied power-up for Elizabeth, but Nakaba once drew her with 6 wings on a volume cover (28).
Could be something to do with the Indura-Goddess thing, or just a power-up for her?
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